Post 9jLfFifF1nc90FDlpY by SpunkyAlpaca@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #9jLYhjlHqFHYptSg8u by tom79@mastodon.social
2019-05-30T20:12:40Z
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Do you think it's the role of app developers to block instances? #poll[ ] Yes[ ] No[ ] Without opinion
(DIR) Post #9jLYhjwHBO4ZNybSGu by clarjon1@connected.cat6.network
2019-05-30T20:14:49.676672Z
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@tom79 I feel it's up to the discretion of the app developer. If you feel that your work is at risk due to instances promoting/utilizing it, it's up to you to decide if you want to stop that.
(DIR) Post #9jLb7MPlT5IVrbjz4C by Xdark@mamot.fr
2019-05-30T20:37:25Z
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@tom79No matter how legitimate it could appear, it would be against the Free Software principle and thus not compatible with the GPLv3
(DIR) Post #9jLbJqwTnDMc1D02W8 by wowaname@pl.smuglo.li
2019-05-30T20:44:08.906216Z
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@tom79 no
(DIR) Post #9jLbKrvFdMoZLduRqi by wowaname@pl.smuglo.li
2019-05-30T20:44:20.709316Z
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@tom79 (cant vote on Based Pleroma)
(DIR) Post #9jLbXVDlLfrohnamuW by wowaname@pl.smuglo.li
2019-05-30T20:46:37.698903Z
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@tom79 like others said, it'd be just like blocking sites in a general web browser, blocking certain email providers in a third-party MUA, etc.unless you advertise your software as something that has an "edge" over other similar software with a pre-defined blocklist, you advertise it as a feature, e.g. in kid-friendly versions of apps or whatever, then it'd be okay. but don't just sneak that shit in and confuse people who download your app expecting to speak to *any* compatible instance
(DIR) Post #9jLcIqUa52FIHt2A6a by tuxcrafting@letsalllovela.in
2019-05-30T20:55:10.429811Z
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@tom79 no: i expect a program to just do what i tell it to, without judging
(DIR) Post #9jLcZMX8iejeIM6fGC by starwall@radical.town
2019-05-30T20:13:13Z
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@tom79 In the case of Gab? Yes sir.
(DIR) Post #9jLcZMeaGygqfRabrc by brainblasted@social.libre.fi
2019-05-30T20:14:22.666878Z
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@starwall @tom79 same opinion here.
(DIR) Post #9jLcZMkxtFnIzEZhoG by dirb@linuxrocks.online
2019-05-30T20:46:00Z
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@brainblasted @tom79 @starwall "GNOME Developer"DO YOU EVEN FREE SOFTWARE "The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0)."
(DIR) Post #9jLcZMrLVWtlJ1Ynku by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2019-05-30T20:58:07.811078Z
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@dirb @starwall @tom79 @brainblasted This freedom is a garbage one in how it's worded, the devs will implements what they want and not implement what they don't want, and same does for a lot of other choices.
(DIR) Post #9jLcjdQQlqrZa0rnk0 by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2019-05-30T21:00:01.504738Z
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@lanodan @dirb @brainblasted @starwall @tom79 i guess i should save the souce code of these projects and rename it to be mine.
(DIR) Post #9jLcqawEPrORtS3me8 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2019-05-30T21:01:15.880048Z
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@1iceloops123 Install gentoo, you get the source tarballs all the time and you can just drop the patches to a folder.
(DIR) Post #9jLcuKA2jehJ1BIZkG by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2019-05-30T21:01:57.383375Z
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@lanodan yeah and maybe strip the code for blocking instances.
(DIR) Post #9jLcuVOcxltprbCsVM by dirb@linuxrocks.online
2019-05-30T21:01:06Z
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@lanodan
(DIR) Post #9jLcuVbkB0OKWHLLwu by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2019-05-30T21:01:58.942074Z
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@dirb Yup rms would be so disapointed and honestly I love that.
(DIR) Post #9jLczGC4ue94A6bWOu by brainblasted@social.libre.fi
2019-05-30T20:47:38.413327Z
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@dirb @starwall @tom79 yeah I free software. That said, I can make decisions people don’t like with my software, and people can fork it if they don’t like it. I don’t need to add anything to my license to block gab from using it. Just like Mozilla can un-trust certificates, I can un-trust instances.
(DIR) Post #9jLczGLIMNWAcguslc by dirb@linuxrocks.online
2019-05-30T20:55:02Z
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@brainblasted Yes, that would be technically valid, but I still would be against the spirit of free software and not many people have the knowledge of how to build an android app by themselves. Also imagine the uproar would happen if Mozilla (or Chrome) invalided valid certificates for non-technical issues
(DIR) Post #9jLczGTnqkK734tg1o by brainblasted@social.libre.fi
2019-05-30T20:56:24.359593Z
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@dirb preserving the spirit of free software matters less to me than giving people that want me dead a platform. Full stop.
(DIR) Post #9jLczGZpUL8zLliUQC by dirb@linuxrocks.online
2019-05-30T21:00:17Z
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@brainblasted And what's your base to say gab people want you dead?
(DIR) Post #9jLczGgZ5IX1gerrv6 by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2019-05-30T21:02:50.336508Z
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@dirb @brainblasted i'm a gab user and i don't want anyone dead
(DIR) Post #9jLd0MWIsSjC4WadMm by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2019-05-30T21:03:02.649226Z
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@1iceloops123 Or just don't use it?It's not like the code is even loaded in pleroma if you do not put the MRF in.
(DIR) Post #9jLd5bibnUgEenqYAS by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2019-05-30T21:03:59.836782Z
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@lanodan i want better software.
(DIR) Post #9jLdDEwSMdo0KixmvA by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2019-05-30T21:05:21.270001Z
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@1iceloops123 Well all do and it's not like you absolutely have to use a software with a blocking feature.
(DIR) Post #9jLdNiH89qy2CmcxkW by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2019-05-30T21:07:16.131403Z
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@lanodan making a fedi app that doesn't allow instances is wrong thought
(DIR) Post #9jLdWmE2qAQh3xVQxs by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2019-05-30T21:08:54.134462Z
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@1iceloops123 “That's like your opinion buddy”(and it's fine, just don't except me to have the same)
(DIR) Post #9jLdmnP2EOFBLbHjSS by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2019-05-30T21:11:48.150203Z
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@lanodan not really its not the right thing to do but then again i guess i'm a silly american to most of these mastodon users.
(DIR) Post #9jLdpQTbvVkv6zgBii by sjw@neckbeard.xyz
2019-05-30T21:12:13.774697Z
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@lanodan @dirb Why would you want to make @rms sad?
(DIR) Post #9jLe2adPTERmNgXXHc by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2019-05-30T21:14:39.039030Z
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@sjw @dirb @rms fedi rms is fine, I meant that dood at stallman.org
(DIR) Post #9jLevWy4nwlQw6P8Mq by sjw@neckbeard.xyz
2019-05-30T21:24:32.084446Z
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@tom79 I do not. Especially not an open source app.It's almost like a telecom trying to say who you're allowed to call or an ISP trying to dictate which websites you are allowed to use. Or, a better example is a Reddit app trying to dictate which subreddits you're allowed to view.I assume we're taking about gab and while I may not agree with them and think most of the users are pretty dumb I feel like an app should remain neutral and simply provide access to services. However, I wouldn't blame you if you were to block it to remain in the Play Store.That being said this is going to be quite the shitshow and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least a little excited to watch it all go down :puniko_popcorn:
(DIR) Post #9jLeyAy53YDHZbfS8u by cassolotl@queer.party
2019-05-30T20:35:07Z
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@tom79 I have no opinion, but I think I would be hard-pressed to argue successfully that the creators of communication tools shouldn't be obliged to follow the law re: illegal content that hurts people.
(DIR) Post #9jLezib1VsoM9tcOX2 by dada@diaspodon.fr
2019-05-30T20:39:09Z
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@tom79 It pisses me off but i'd say no.It's up to you, anyway. It's your app and you do whatever you want with. If they want Fedilab, they just have to fork it.
(DIR) Post #9jLf7DnVuC64xI2R3g by animeirl@social.homunyan.com
2019-05-30T20:45:55Z
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@tom79 i would say generally no except in extreme cases (such as gab)
(DIR) Post #9jLf7E1h3TRJfGflA0 by sjw@neckbeard.xyz
2019-05-30T21:26:39.548864Z
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@animeirl @tom79 Is gab really that extreme of a case?
(DIR) Post #9jLf7WLUwZycTu4pWq by villain@social.i2p.rocks
2019-05-30T20:46:29.889584Z
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@tom79 no way!
(DIR) Post #9jLfBeVcXEBUxQmWqe by wowaname@pawoo.net
2019-05-30T20:53:14Z
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@tom79 no, for the reason defined on https://pl.smuglo.li/notice/9jLbXUIDl188fTmJQuseems i can't vote on pawoo either, nor can i interact from smugloli. my own instance is down, i use smug as an alt account, which is an instance blocked by mastodon.social. i'd suggest you migrate to another instance such as fosstodon or mastodon.technology to allow for better federation and a more accurate result on your poll
(DIR) Post #9jLfCWWBjKiySpSkEK by wowaname@pawoo.net
2019-05-30T20:53:57Z
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@brainblasted @dirb @tom79 @starwall with mozilla you can re-import those certs though, this isnt the same as hardcoding an instance block in an app
(DIR) Post #9jLfFifF1nc90FDlpY by SpunkyAlpaca@mastodon.social
2019-05-30T20:59:33Z
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@tom79 Not even a little.
(DIR) Post #9jLh5GuZYavFwSXQ7k by animeirl@social.homunyan.com
2019-05-30T21:46:28Z
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@sjw @tom79 due to multiple factors, yes. it's obviously garbage quality-wise, but it's also scam. if it was only one of those things it probably wouldn't be worth blocking.
(DIR) Post #9jLhARTjhDBkABS1MO by sjw@neckbeard.xyz
2019-05-30T21:49:39.204641Z
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@animeirl @tom79 But garbage quality scams are made to be laughed at.
(DIR) Post #9jLjN534bLm6Gq8M0e by grainloom@cybre.space
2019-05-30T22:14:20Z
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@tom79 when they are hate speech havens, surealthough i expect instances to do it first, but it doesn't hurt to take an additional step and block such instances in the client code
(DIR) Post #9jLjPiA89FGu9vgn8i by rugk@social.wiuwiu.de
2019-05-30T22:13:09Z
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@tom79 alternative: show an educational message linking to some… don't know… nazi dropout content?
(DIR) Post #9jLsdZBnCqLFyG9FcO by SlavMetal@fosstodon.org
2019-05-30T23:57:46Z
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@tom79What a clownworld we live in
(DIR) Post #9jLseRZP1HJUd7bruq by igeljaeger@the.hedgehoghunter.club
2019-05-30T23:58:19.939082Z
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@tom79 LMAO NO
(DIR) Post #9jLsqggOektOybifh2 by lesbianhacker@mastodon.social
2019-05-30T23:35:09Z
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@wowanamenobody should be taking advice from someone that uses a site named "smug loli", Jesus christ what is this pedophile shit@tom79
(DIR) Post #9jLsqgtrqffTeO1Qgq by igeljaeger@the.hedgehoghunter.club
2019-05-31T00:00:30.264349Z
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@lesbianhacker @tom79 @wowaname why do you commies hate lolis so muchsample_8ba386d2588649a9ff3b0de9…
(DIR) Post #9jLt6nt1dnaBx4JMZc by ChristiJunior@freespeechextremist.com
2019-05-31T00:03:29.768740Z
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@lesbianhacker @wowaname @tom79 Nobody should be taking advice from someone that describes herself as a "Communist with Marxist-Leninist leanings".Jesus christ what is this totalitarian mass murder shit.
(DIR) Post #9jLtZ1SGms048rFhpY by HonkeyKong@freespeechextremist.com
2019-05-31T00:08:35.766310Z
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@ChristiJunior imagine taking unsolicited advice from a woman on the internet ever lmao
(DIR) Post #9jMN9UASPPHqHweyDg by brainblasted@social.libre.fi
2019-05-30T21:01:02.110090Z
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@dirb I’m black. Gab is a home for white supremacists. Dead or enslaved, they want to negate my agency and my ability to live equally within society.
(DIR) Post #9jMRqQmlG7n44FJGE4 by rms@pl.smuglo.li
2019-05-31T06:32:41.995790Z
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@lanodan @dirb @brainblasted @starwall @tom79 >the devs will implements what they want and not implement what they don't want, and same does for a lot of other choices.You're right, and the free software definition is also correctly worded. See https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html . If you scroll down a little bit, it actually explains what freedom 0 actually means. It clearly mentions that freedom 0 has nothing to do with the functionality of the program.In case of the Fedilabs, blocking instances is just another functionality and they're free to implement whatever they like. If they wish to federate only with a single instance, they're free to do so. Being a free software or being licensed under GNU GPL does not restrict a developer from having their own opinions.But to overcome such issues, we have freedom 1 that allows users to modify the programs as they wish.Personally I don't think it's a good idea to force your opinions through your programs. Fedilabs should just provide a generic blocking functionality so that users can block instances that they don't like.
(DIR) Post #9jMSSAA1WBBtVjBMie by rms@pl.smuglo.li
2019-05-31T06:39:31.705505Z
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@lanodan @sjw @dirbDELET.jpg
(DIR) Post #9jMc8hopfQ1zeLdC40 by cameron@social.librem.one
2019-05-31T05:09:12Z
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@sjw @tom79 Yep, if the protocol does this filtering eventually someone will abuse the power. People need to imagine a fringe group they agree with getting blocked and see how they would feel about it.
(DIR) Post #9jMcSUgQDNMiha8Inw by sjw@neckbeard.xyz
2019-05-31T08:31:29.002994Z
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@cameron @tom79 “I don’t want to allow access to any instances that support the gays in my good Chrischan fediverse app.”– Some fediverse app developer (maybe)
(DIR) Post #9jMdTTIgwPfMeo3zSy by sjw@neckbeard.xyz
2019-05-31T08:42:59.322406Z
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@lesbianhacker @tom79 @wowaname >Communist with Marxist-Leninist leanings:honk:
(DIR) Post #9jMdaWUVTdm6Zzx63M by Agni@misskey.io
2019-05-31T08:44:11.071Z
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@lesbianhacker@mastodon.social @wowaname@pawoo.net @tom79@mastodon.social hates on lolisuses a loli Jodie Foster abatap Retard alert.
(DIR) Post #9jMe51Tqp7qjNZBm4G by RehnSturm256@pl.smuglo.li
2019-05-31T08:49:48.063269Z
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@Agni @lesbianhacker @wowaname @tom79 The smug is maddening to the Marxist-Leninist!:smug1: :smug2: :smug3: :smug5:
(DIR) Post #9jMeJEGA6jNH4EYmXo by enigmatico@misskey.io
2019-05-30T21:27:07.319Z
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@tom79@mastodon.social No.
(DIR) Post #9jMeNqqCba8hspcbQW by dirb@linuxrocks.online
2019-05-30T21:11:45Z
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@brainblasted one question, have you seen post like that on gab by yourself?
(DIR) Post #9jMeaz4BKmzD9uQGEC by EchoSierraTwo@pl.smuglo.li
2019-05-31T08:55:35.023625Z
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@tom79 No, absolutely not, no more than it's the role of e-mail apps to block me from e-mailing people, or browsers to tell me what sites I can and can't visit.
(DIR) Post #9jMfCDCTkQzpi03Tai by Agni@misskey.io
2019-05-31T09:02:18.158Z
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@tom79@mastodon.social In the case of [site I don't like] yes absolutely. [site I don't like] is uniquely responsible for [act of violence by site user]. Anyone that uses [site I don't like] is evil incarnate, this isn't a free speech issue, rational considerations doesn't apply to [scapegoat]. It's ok to punch [scapegoat] btw.
(DIR) Post #9jMfCQ45uv0vblESpM by sjw@sinblr.com
2019-05-31T09:02:18Z
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@tom79 Just a heads up, the instance you're on is likely blocking a lot of the discussion so here's a link to it on my instance which doesn't impose any instance blocks.https://neckbeard.xyz/notice/9jLYYxbyx8sGiLgWnY
(DIR) Post #9jMfvugYuxNZbgv0Ii by EchoSierraTwo@pl.smuglo.li
2019-05-31T09:10:30.500785Z
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@sjw @tom79 An interesting side note, I was still able to comment and read the thread, even the OP. Should frogsite actually federate, I have a feeling Turbocuck might be in for a shock if he thinks he can censor comment threads the way he does currently.
(DIR) Post #9jMhAjiM5du9sXOBrk by a1batross@niu.moe
2019-05-31T09:24:25Z
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@starwall @tom79 make your own fork.
(DIR) Post #9jMhUUKyyG59ymsK0W by denza252@shitposter.club
2019-05-31T09:28:01.262043Z
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@tom79 No, with exceptions for security. Everything else should be left to the end user
(DIR) Post #9jMjAaKRBaV4g4G1CK by sjw@neckbeard.xyz
2019-05-31T09:46:48.003599Z
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@EchoSierraTwo @sjw @tom79 Also, don't forget Mastodon's decision to push unauthoritative objects (authenticating them through LDS) through the social graph instead of using capability URIs like Pleroma does.Basically, a post someone deleted on Mastodon can still be shared and in essence "come back to life" while trying to share a post that was deleted on Pleroma will fail. Basically, Turbocuck chose to use a platform that lacks the ability to actually delete posts so everyone on Pleroma will still see his posts and be able to share them. Additionally, those "deleted" posts will also be available to be federated with other instances and there's nothing he can do to stop it aside from rewriting how Mastodon does posts.I doubt he even realises any of that. I wonder how he'll react when he does. I also wonder how he'll react later when he learns that instance blocking has no effect on it. I guess he could try to say they've been faked but when every Pleroma instance with his posts all say the same thing that'll be a bit of a hard sell.
(DIR) Post #9jMjIa16EHkK1j1Zuy by diresock@freespeechextremist.com
2019-05-31T09:48:17.136671Z
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@tom79 No
(DIR) Post #9jMkJgN0C3hxyVMJBA by jarlavgrenland@grenland.social
2019-05-31T09:55:18Z
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@sjwI guess we got to blvk them to becuase a get number of people dont like oe have something against other peoples interest@lesbianhacker @tom79 @wowaname
(DIR) Post #9jMl4QzrAWjFuDpG5I by marsxyz@sale.gauchiste.club
2019-05-31T10:08:04.831822Z
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@tom79 As you wish tbh. They'll rebrand an app anyway
(DIR) Post #9jMm2PG2lMqbt5zgVE by sjw@neckbeard.xyz
2019-05-31T10:18:56.899256Z
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@jarlavgrenland @wowaname @tom79 @lesbianhacker I’m against blocking except in extreme cases. The only instance I’ve ever blocked was a pedo instance (it was essentially /r/jailbait the instance). Sure, that’s technically censorship but if an instance pops up for human trafficking or whatever I’ll block that one too. I mean, I’m all for free speech but when you’re actually hurting someone that’s too far and I don’t really want to be associated with that. Also, it’s more about not wanting to support our have anything to do with harming people rather than trying to censor their speech. That’s just my thoughts on it anyway. I’m kind of curious what @p’s views are on that.Additionally, there’s also legal reasons to consider about blocking instances like that.
(DIR) Post #9jMnXnQB4dGplDGX9U by march@marchgenso.me
2019-05-31T10:35:45.276874Z
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@sjw what's LDS?
(DIR) Post #9jMo3az4qlJwSDkjh2 by march@marchgenso.me
2019-05-31T10:41:31.759699Z
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@sjw oh, it was just JSON-LD (plural)My bab
(DIR) Post #9jMove0hoYjFTfHqy0 by tom79@mastodon.social
2019-05-31T09:50:01Z
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@Gargron Will the next releases of Mastodon block their instances by default?
(DIR) Post #9jMoveFavCdeDqFkAq by Gargron@mastodon.social
2019-05-31T10:50:30Z
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@tom79 Instinctively I want to do it but I do worry about the repercussions of an upstream decision like that as a precedent
(DIR) Post #9jMow6fnFOESNCj3tg by sjw@neckbeard.xyz
2019-05-31T10:51:25.301111Z
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@march Yee
(DIR) Post #9jMp1WJlKQFrMB0DCq by xeno@nomoresha.me
2019-05-31T10:52:25.692788Z
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@Gargron @tom79 this is correctdont do itthere are better ways to deal with gabspamming astolfo worked last time, why wouldnt it work this timealso we can venmo jovan some money and ask him to sic his stans on the gablins
(DIR) Post #9jMpACfJlTAR0pE1Uu by louisoft01@the.hedgehoghunter.club
2019-05-31T10:53:57.769870Z
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@tom79 It's quite funny how the alt left community on mastodon which used to circlejerk free software are now ultra against it now gab (a website which I also hate) wants to use it. Making apps that stop you from using what instance you use is anti free software and is a worrying president. I'm so glad I ditched mastodon years ago.
(DIR) Post #9jMq60zRKcoTb6ChRg by Steve12L@mastodon.xyz
2019-05-31T11:01:21Z
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@Gargron @tom79 it's not the role of app developers to block instances but only the admins of instances. To each his role, to each his responsibility, don’t mix it up please ! And if an instance poses a problem, each user can report it to its admin.
(DIR) Post #9jMq6190l2TA4mgLMe by Gargron@mastodon.social
2019-05-31T11:03:56Z
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@Steve12L @tom79 I think that apps should block Gab due to the risk of being banned by app stores otherwise. That's a force major that simplifies that particular decision greatly.
(DIR) Post #9jMqD9JamHYtRb22Do by JapanAnon@pawoo.net
2019-05-31T11:05:43Z
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@tom79 No. An app developer hard-coding an instance block is employing ideological authoritarianism in using their personal biases to impose a decision on all users without their consent. If a given instance is so unpopular that nobody wants to see it, users can (and likely will) make the individual decision to block. At scale, this solution yields the same results without unilateral, centralized decision-making by devs.
(DIR) Post #9jMuRTacaqy4CC5Hm4 by UberGeek@social.buffalomesh.net
2019-05-31T11:53:06Z
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@tom79 Sometimes.If it's morally objectionable, in a very subjective way (ie, the entire world has agreed it is, such as fascism), then yes.In reality, it's up to the app devs. I hope Fedilab blocks the gab instance when it arrives, or else I'll be migrating apps.
(DIR) Post #9jMvFp1p9uAfALoZyi by tom79@mastodon.social
2019-05-31T12:02:11Z
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@UberGeekAnd will you stop using Mastodon if they don't block them in source code or your instance, if your admin don't block them?
(DIR) Post #9jMwOrbD4PFvhQF1Yu by UberGeek@social.buffalomesh.net
2019-05-31T12:15:02Z
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@tom79 I intend to block them in my instance.Mastodon could block them in code, and I believe @Gargron is considering it.Other app devs will be doing it.If you don't with your app, your app will be tarnished as "The Gab App", since the only reason for their move to a masto fork it to get around app stores blocking it. Likely, your app will be available on F-Droid only.
(DIR) Post #9jMwplgXAObxAxYpRA by tom79@mastodon.social
2019-05-31T12:19:53Z
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@UberGeek https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/102190273701596772https://mastodon.social/web/statuses/102190326531260361
(DIR) Post #9jMwuY3TGopwLoZKHg by tom79@mastodon.social
2019-05-31T12:20:33Z
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@UberGeek https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/102190273701596772https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/102190326531260361
(DIR) Post #9jMxbJSdPH8vXXjM3c by coldacid@noagendasocial.com
2019-05-31T12:28:31Z
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@brainblastedPlease stop being part of the F/OSS community if that's your attitude. @dirb
(DIR) Post #9jMxrgjkdOviMYXr9c by geotechland@fosstodon.org
2019-05-30T20:21:16Z
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@tom79No way! As much as I think the gab community contain a lot of hateful trolls, app devs should not block instances they dont like.
(DIR) Post #9jMy88O3bFdukeEvx2 by adrint@shitposter.club
2019-05-31T12:34:28.245799Z
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@brainblasted @dirb To be fair, you want them dead too.
(DIR) Post #9jMyDO5CfcGUsZvTpA by GardenOfForkingPaths@hostux.social
2019-05-30T21:10:49Z
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@tom79 'App developers' meaning you, right? I'm reading this on application software right now: it's a Web browser derived from Google's Chrome. People who say yes are presumably those who'd readily block Gab for themselves anyway, or choose an instance whose admin will. So the question is about our attitudes towards control of *other* people...
(DIR) Post #9jMyP97Y7oIhwxd9Bw by UberGeek@social.buffalomesh.net
2019-05-31T12:37:29Z
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@tom79 Yep, he thinks the apps should do it.As for the source code of masto, I have it, can do a hard block myself in code, or in the admin panel.
(DIR) Post #9jMyTWA4P0LAZFtUFE by adrint@shitposter.club
2019-05-31T12:38:19.269863Z
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@applebaps @tom79 >people I disagree with aren't human and don't deserve to vote in pollsAnd for no reason at all, Pinochet started tossing commies from helicopters.
(DIR) Post #9jMyZ7xhHxDdFemWH2 by unspeakablehorror@mastodon.social
2019-05-31T00:14:16Z
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@tom79 Yes, nazi instances on social media should be blocked. I support freedom of speech but this is not a freedom of speech question. This is a 'does this platform allow nazis' question. Changes in an app do not cause changes in law. Freedom of speech does not mean moderation should be repressed. The actions of app developers, regardless of what choices they make, have political ramifications and are not neutral.
(DIR) Post #9jMyZ8BsREYrxdPqNM by adrint@shitposter.club
2019-05-31T12:39:20.516328Z
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@unspeakablehorror @tom79 I support physics just not gravity,
(DIR) Post #9jMyokxsYi7wYpJqaW by tom79@mastodon.social
2019-05-31T12:42:07Z
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@UberGeek They should do it for avoiding a ban on Google Play (I already talked that was a reason to do it). Why asking app devs to do for another reason if the project itself doesn't do it.
(DIR) Post #9jMyzjrN0WYiJqVlUO by sum@greenish.red
2019-05-31T12:44:09.427250Z
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@tom79 @UberGeek Next Google needs to remove Firefox from Android Market because Firefox can be used to browse neonazi websites. And remove any drawing apps because they can draw hate symbols.
(DIR) Post #9jMz11K9YrWUlzaMoy by trebach@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-05-31T10:24:52Z
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@tom79 It's your app. If you want to block instances, you're free to do so. You have the ability and right to do so. Couple of warnings though: it's a perpetual game of whack-a-mole and someone could just fork your code, remove the filtering, and have their own clone without it.
(DIR) Post #9jMzIz1YqoZQqvSFVI by adrint@shitposter.club
2019-05-31T12:47:37.831604Z
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@tom79 ITT: Neomarxists think a website full of Israel-first magapedes (gab) are actually "Nazis" lmao
(DIR) Post #9jN281oMRpfsApkSCe by UberGeek@social.buffalomesh.net
2019-05-31T13:19:12Z
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@sum @tom79 If firefox connected only to a specific type of site, then your argument would be apropos.
(DIR) Post #9jN2KkI2u1dRb5hHsG by tom79@mastodon.social
2019-05-31T13:21:31Z
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@UberGeek Like applications with all instances and not a dedicated one.@sum
(DIR) Post #9jN323W3ITDdg3tsye by masterofthetiger@theres.life
2019-05-31T13:18:34Z
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@tom79Of course not. Someone should be able to use it how they want to use it. There's little reason other than not liking another instance to keep it from being used, and that's not acceptae.
(DIR) Post #9jNDPFcFTUz9PHUv5c by UberGeek@social.buffalomesh.net
2019-05-31T15:25:35Z
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@tom79 @sum No, like an app designed to connect people over a social media network...
(DIR) Post #9jNDVAIQAOBqe42ldY by Thndr@pleroma.site
2019-05-31T14:43:44.303928Z
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@tom79 @sum @UberGeek If a application is meant to be used with every site on the protocol (like web-browsers browse HTTP sites) then any sort of default blocks should come in a form of a user controllable block format. It's not up to the developers to dictate what domain names are allowed to be browsed via the protocol; however, it is up to the app developer to provide a way for the user to control the experience.If there's a developer endorsed blocklist including the nefarious sites that the developer wishes to use as the default in their official build that's up to the developer, but that does not mean the blocklist itself should be hard-coded into the software without user control.Ultimately with the nature of domain-names if a developer does go for a hard-coded blocklist it'll force end-users to update their entire app whenever the nefarious actors get allies or rebrand themselves.With web-browsers we already have ways to block technical bad actor content (ads/malware) on the user end without needing to update apps (mostly via plugins/extensions, but some browsers integrate that sort of blocking), and they just update from blocklists they subscribe to and have their app locally toss/not fetch.
(DIR) Post #9jNDVAZn7o5JVwAdiC by UberGeek@social.buffalomesh.net
2019-05-31T15:26:39Z
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@Thndr @sum @tom79 The onus is on the app designed to design the experience. What you're trying to shoehorn in is the "content vs styling" idea here.This is no different than FF's built in malware blocking. Blocking of malicious traffic, out of the box.
(DIR) Post #9jNDbHgHcfTNHp7fwu by UberGeek@social.buffalomesh.net
2019-05-31T15:27:46Z
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@tom79 @sum In the end, it's your app, do what thou wilt.Just letting you know, I will probably move to a different app if you DON'T protect users against malicious actors.
(DIR) Post #9jNDhg2zwSwGawnPKi by tom79@mastodon.social
2019-05-31T15:28:52Z
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@UberGeek @Thndr @sum To be clear, blocking an instance from an app will not block them to go where they want. But blocking from code (ie: Mastodon, Pleroma, etc.) will avoid any interactions with them.So why app devs should do that if it's not planned with Mastodon code or other social networks?
(DIR) Post #9jNDlrpA68MIHKK1rc by UberGeek@social.buffalomesh.net
2019-05-31T15:29:40Z
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@tom79 @Thndr @sum Blocking users of Gab from using your app, via blocking your app from allowing registration to their server DOES block malicious traffic, though.
(DIR) Post #9jNDqizsLQmGLieKqu by UberGeek@social.buffalomesh.net
2019-05-31T15:30:33Z
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@tom79 @Thndr @sum As for "Why should you?", because people vote with their proverbial wallets.If you want to be available only via F-Droid, that's a valid course, I suppose.
(DIR) Post #9jNDuUnZ4ny7TIgo9Q by UberGeek@social.buffalomesh.net
2019-05-31T15:31:14Z
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@tom79 @Thndr @sum But security is a multi-layer approach: Block them at the app, block them at the server. Makes a safer experience, all around, for the end users.
(DIR) Post #9jNDx1BNdziAUL21vk by tom79@mastodon.social
2019-05-31T15:31:41Z
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@UberGeek @Thndr @sum As I said, if it's a risk for the app on Google Play, I will do that, because it's a different matter.
(DIR) Post #9jNE36sfN5LJtlBQEy by UberGeek@social.buffalomesh.net
2019-05-31T15:32:47Z
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@tom79 @Thndr @sum It looks like it will be. No reason to NOT be proactive.
(DIR) Post #9jNECRoQuuzLQIeiWm by tom79@mastodon.social
2019-05-31T15:34:29Z
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@UberGeek @Thndr @sum If I was sure, it will be already done. I need to be in touch with Google Play developer support but that seems to be impossible.
(DIR) Post #9jNUAlolAK3U9j1xUe by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-05-31T18:33:30.609135Z
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@sjw @jarlavgrenland @lesbianhacker @tom79 @wowaname > I’m all for free speech but when you’re actually hurting someone that’s too farIf it's an action rather than an opinion, that's where it stops being a speech issue. If you're saying to your sex-trafficking interns "Put all these chicks into this shipping container and load them on the boat", that's a directive, it's different from saying "It should be fine to put ladies into crates on boats and then sell the crates." The former, a directive, is not intended to work out an idea or express an opinion, the latter is an opinion. (It's a bad opinion, but no one's getting into a crate while it's still just an opinion.) That's a sensible bar.Hurting people, that isn't a reasonable bar, I think. Opinions can hurt people. Your spouse or a family member can happen upon your (classy, leather-bound) journal and have a heart attack at what you wrote, just keel over and bargle, and a poorly timed death can destroy a family and have generations-long ripples. Immensely hurtful, maybe from a practical perspective you shouldn't have written it down and put it where anyone digging through your closet and cracking open your document safe could find it and read it, but from an ethical perspective, it's not wrong to do.So, yeah, if there's a situation where federating with another instance directly aids a crime, maybe I should ping the admin and block them if the admin does not care or is actively engaged in it, but it depends on the crime and how federation aids it.
(DIR) Post #9jNUVg1ftURkH52ZYO by cereal@shitposter.club
2019-05-31T18:37:17.177146Z
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@lesbianhacker @tom79 @wowaname > lesbian hackerLemme guess, "life hacks"?
(DIR) Post #9jNVtO7mCeoTeqlTpg by maxmustermann@shitposter.club
2019-05-31T18:52:46.591818Z
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@tom79 Dude.... https://poal.me/4z5ozp
(DIR) Post #9jNWskTbiGXue8EczI by maxmustermann@shitposter.club
2019-05-31T19:03:51.962535Z
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@lesbianhacker @tom79 @wowaname Nobody should listen what someone that uses a site named "lesbian hacker". Jesus Christ, what is this sodomite shit?
(DIR) Post #9jNWzyteUvZbOdrkmW by TheFuzzStone@fosstodon.org
2019-05-31T11:02:24Z
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@tom79 No.--@felix>>>I think the answer to that is pretty clear.The answer is "Yes". Why not?Mastodon is full of #communists and other #leftists. So it would be fun.--
(DIR) Post #9jNX4EFNMqDiAB3Jei by Thndr@pleroma.site
2019-05-31T18:32:41.271378Z
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@tom79 @sum @UberGeek I assume if required by Gplay to be hard coded it would be a separate build than Fdroid?For ultimate Dev ease of use if Gplay has a list of required domains to block that for some reason they don't impliment in default Google services at the Android system level I would hope they publish it via their terms so it can be easily updated for app revisions. It would clear up and prevent the current confusion due to the small(ish) userbase of a new protocol.
(DIR) Post #9jNZ91m5Mnvqpwlgjg by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-05-31T19:29:13.206177Z
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@wirelessguru1 There's something fun coming.
(DIR) Post #9jNZP68Wutguzyvg00 by kekuser@freespeech.host
2019-05-31T19:32:06.809647Z
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@tom79 No way
(DIR) Post #9jNZjQKpWsCTR0NI6S by djabadu@niu.moe
2019-05-31T11:51:09Z
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@tom79 why would you hardcode instance blocks in an app? People can just join an instance that blocks gab.
(DIR) Post #9jNa026wqX6VEDnkSu by efertone@quey.org
2019-05-31T14:30:48Z
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@tom79 I know there are instances we don't really want to exists, but for an app dev, I don't think even if the dev does not like an instance or more instances, they should not block them. It's not their responsibly and if they can block one, they can block others too based on their opinions.For given instances, I know it's hard to resist not to block them if you have hard feelings (i don't name them for reason, but everyone knows), but in my eyes, it's definitely not the job of an app dev.
(DIR) Post #9jNaNfnpRKsizS8BCC by sum@greenish.red
2019-05-31T19:43:03.647066Z
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@applebaps @starwall @tom79 @brainblasted @dirb anarchism.space voice: app developers should be authorities in a decentralized network. freedom is dangerous, we need censors. i'm an "anarchist". i hate libre software. give me gratis software. im an "anarchist"
(DIR) Post #9jNafXYuohJ4e3fumO by Lucifer@hell.social
2019-05-31T18:50:19Z
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@tom79 No. This job is for the instance admins..
(DIR) Post #9jNafk4YItk9ReZLl2 by ArdanianRight@freespeechextremist.com
2019-05-31T19:46:20.264598Z
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@sum @starwall @brainblasted @dirb @tom79 @applebaps Nothing screams "Anarchism" like believing in the power of authoritarianism to keep people safe from authoritarianism.
(DIR) Post #9jNdypSGockJVGSKVk by paulfree14@todon.nl
2019-05-31T20:17:31Z
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@tom79 in general not but case of facist recruiting plattforms or similiar, if it's in your power it's your responsibility.there is no freedom under facism. freesoftware that doesn't act against facism, isn't free as in freedom. there is no freedom under facism.block #gab
(DIR) Post #9jNdypfk0XWOB2l5VY by anornymorse@shitposter.club
2019-05-31T20:23:22.999936Z
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@paulfree14 @tom79 WAR IS PEACEIGNORANCE IS STRENGTHFREEDOM IS SLAVERYimage.png
(DIR) Post #9jOCH5yzV8oIPvdtpI by lyliawisteria@todon.nl
2019-06-01T02:47:35Z
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@dirb @brainblasted i'm part of a number of people responsible for getting Kevin Johnston banned from youtube and twitter he went right to gab after that. this piece of shit has put a $1000 bounty out for a tape of "muslim children uttering terrorist threats in prayer". he is banned from going anywhere near public school property, and has tried to defy this ban several timeshe once spent an entire evening writing tweets from different locations around my city, demanding that antifa come and fight him. then he came to us, as we were preparing to counter a fascist rally in a nearby park. as entered the park he assaulted a woman, and then had his ass handed to him by four people from our group. he called the cops, claimed all kinds of outrageous bullshit. the cops didn't believe him but arrested four people anyway.he is a known white supremacist in Mississauga. even the mayor hates him. about a year ago, he was given conditions and a very hefty fine by Human Rights Court.this asshole wants Black, Indigenous, People of Colour to die, and he has fans.
(DIR) Post #9jODPxx8pEAW4cZSz2 by trwnh@mastodon.social
2019-06-01T02:59:24Z
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@sum @starwall @brainblasted @dirb @tom79 @applebaps just recompile the software yourself. no one's stopping you from overriding default policy. you don't get to override everyone else's freedom of association, or in this case, freedom to not associate with toxic garbage that wants them dead
(DIR) Post #9jODPyAc18wakOsDyq by sum@greenish.red
2019-06-01T03:00:27.910880Z
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@trwnh @starwall @brainblasted @dirb @tom79 @applebaps i only use the public computer at the library because im a mentally ill refugee , check your privilege shitlord. not everyone can afford to buy into the cloud
(DIR) Post #9jODZVniLgNreoiITo by trwnh@mastodon.social
2019-06-01T03:01:34Z
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@sum @dirb @tom79 @brainblasted @applebaps @starwall if you were interacting in good faith then i'd tell you to visit the website instead of concern trolling about an android app, but since you're not interacting in good faith i think i'll just block you and move on with my life
(DIR) Post #9jODZW55J6HKWgqAYS by sum@greenish.red
2019-06-01T03:02:11.661268Z
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@trwnh @dirb @tom79 @brainblasted @applebaps @starwall thank you for announcing the block. i use Pleroma Disrespect so i can't tell if people block me. Sure love this Fediverse!
(DIR) Post #9jODnGowqDCzFeqpKS by sum@greenish.red
2019-06-01T03:04:41.531718Z
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@trwnh @dirb @tom79 @brainblasted @applebaps @starwall can u believe capitalists and the FBI will advocate for blocking sites that let you watch TV for free? so silicon valley blocks our internet use, for "our" .... "safety"...
(DIR) Post #9jOFA6pWFj46sdZYUS by meowski@freespeechextremist.com
2019-06-01T03:20:01.601009Z
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@tom79 [x] no, obviously what do you even mean by this, should app devs maintain an instance blocklist and distribute it with the software? The software already has instance blocking capabilities, but my view is that is better handled independently or it's going to fracture the whole system into free speech forks vs triggered baby forks who hate freedom. If users are sensitive and dont want their fee fees hurted by people they can maintain have their own blocklists.
(DIR) Post #9jOGL42L4to7MBM9vE by Steve12L@mastodon.xyz
2019-05-31T11:09:11Z
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@Gargron Gab is a particular problem, don't do a particular problem a general one. Gab is a fuckin' real problem yes, we all agree here with that. But giving a developer the ability to do that also allows them to block any instance. And I don’t like that. @tom79
(DIR) Post #9jOJPiMvMlVjSttV2G by UberGeek@social.buffalomesh.net
2019-06-01T04:07:36Z
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@ThndrThat's fair. But if the app I get (from fdroid) doesnt protect its users, i will move to a new app, push others to do the same, and look into blocking said app from my instance if possible @sum @tom79
(DIR) Post #9jOJWKk9bRhuDfuqAK by UberGeek@social.buffalomesh.net
2019-06-01T04:08:49Z
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@ThndrBtw, theres very little confusion on if you allow your app to promote hate.No other app maker seems to have this confusion...@sum @tom79
(DIR) Post #9jOUb7fqim9Id4O9gG by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-06-01T06:12:59.045022Z
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@wirelessguru1 Okay, maybe not that (yet?) but I'll show you.
(DIR) Post #9jOtrepdhqxIxCwtlo by FiXato@mastodon.social
2019-05-31T18:46:59Z
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@tom79I don't think it's your *responsibility* (unless perhaps when ordered by a court of law), however if you don't want to support an instance, I do think it is your *right* to block them in your app; as long as you're transparent about the block-list you are maintaining and preferably the reasons - 1/2
(DIR) Post #9jOtyZTq0BQ8Np32qe by bob@soc.freedombone.net
2019-05-31T12:25:02.155477Z
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@dirb @starwall @tom79 @brainblasted Any software developer includes constraints within their applications. In this case a hardcoded blocklist of known neo-nazi instances would be a reasonable constraint and the user could remove that and recompile if they wanted to.Associating with nazis or other kinds of genocidal authoritarians doesn't increase or preserve anyone's freedom. Rather, it jeopardizes it.
(DIR) Post #9jOtyZk91YSrCOg4GW by jhol@mstdn.io
2019-05-31T19:40:26Z
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@bobNo that's completely wrong. For starters Gab are not Nazis. How do I know? I have an account.I heard there are white nationalists there, but it's really anyone who's getting censored by silicon valley tech giants, which encompasses basically anyone with an unpopular opinion.Stop lavelling everyone Nazis. It's inaccurate and it dilutes the true meaning of the term@dirb @tom79 @starwall @brainblasted
(DIR) Post #9jOuCaR3FQXJOpQaeW by mathieu@mstdn.fr
2019-05-31T21:04:37Z
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@Steve12L hi there. There is absolutely zero reason to think that because app devs block white supremacist instances, it would necessarily follow that they will one day block other instances that aren't white supremacist havens.https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/slippery-slope@Gargron @tom79
(DIR) Post #9jOuCaqDjqfYetCgsq by adrint@shitposter.club
2019-06-01T10:59:51.434044Z
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@mathieu @tom79 @Gargron @steve12l The slippery slope is not a fallacy. Ten years ago the common argument for gay marriage in the US was that homosexuals just wanted the right to marry like everyone else. Now we have transgender 10 year olds pole dancing for cash infront of adult audiences. If you dont see anything wrong with that, you are a truly disturbed individual.
(DIR) Post #9jOvA5RdbBwcev4eEC by yuduki@aria.company
2019-06-01T11:10:37.454596Z
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@adrint @mathieu @Gargron @Steve12L @tom79 fallacies: heuristics that work most of the time, but because they don't work all of the time, are taken by intellectual idiots to mean that it works none of the time
(DIR) Post #9jOwukVpLJIrIpqcaW by tom79@mastodon.social
2019-05-31T10:04:00Z
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@Tusky @AndStatus @SubwayTooter Did you plan to block their instances?
(DIR) Post #9jOwukjIXE4vyc9NaK by AndStatus@mastodon.social
2019-06-01T11:27:15Z
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@tom79 I think that any blocking, hardcoded in an app, is useless or worse.On the other hand, having automatically synced blacklists could help. E.g. in terms of #ActivityPub some Actor may create "Blacklist" Collection and Add and Remove domains from that collection. People, who trust him, could Follow that collection and thus have their app's blacklists updated automatically?!
(DIR) Post #9jOwuktDwK1CTOnJ3Y by tom79@mastodon.social
2019-06-01T11:28:44Z
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@AndStatusI thought to that, but if the server delivering blacklist is down, that means every instances will be allowed or forbidden depending of the choice.
(DIR) Post #9jOwul5HDVex4mQvqK by ben666@shitposter.club
2019-06-01T11:30:14.378018Z
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@tom79 @andstatus ever heard of the expresion the way to hell is paved with good intentions.
(DIR) Post #9jP4oY4tSZtQdMnuk4 by mathieu@mstdn.fr
2019-06-01T12:11:17Z
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@adrint wtf do these two have to do with each other? 😲Are you seriously saying that child prostitution is a consequence of gay marriage?
(DIR) Post #9jP4oYHeh86LGwm6dM by adrint@shitposter.club
2019-06-01T12:58:46.417118Z
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@mathieu Its not prostitution yet, just erotic dancing.A society is far gone in depravity when tolerance is considered a virtue in itself without regard for the thing being tolerated.
(DIR) Post #9jPBhsdhJY0K3WqoHQ by mathieu@mstdn.fr
2019-06-01T14:13:43Z
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@adrint what "tolerance"?Giving the right to marry to everybody (your example) has nothing to do with "tolerance", it's about recognizing the humanity of homosexuals and as such giving them the same rights as everyone else.It's equality, not tolerance.And it has **nothing** to do with child prostitution or even " erotic dancing" as you put it. Linking the two shows you're a fucking bigot.So fuck off.
(DIR) Post #9jPBhsu0Kv32s6TphI by adrint@shitposter.club
2019-06-01T14:16:00.409926Z
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@mathieu You are willfully ignorant, and intellectually dishonest. You'd best get on this case of children pole dancing. What one generation tolerates, the next embraces. This is why the slippery slope has never been a fallacy.
(DIR) Post #9jPLo9oDOEvgaNOyzQ by Thndr@pleroma.site
2019-06-01T15:45:55.663835Z
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@UberGeek the word 'protect' in this context is really too vague for me to interpret what intent may be meant in regards to which method of protection.Would you consider having the ability to sync to a trusted(by the user, not dev) blacklist much like typical ad-blockers as protection? Or would such blacklist have to be authoritatively provided by the dev with no ability for the general end-user to adjust to qualify?
(DIR) Post #9jPLoAO1F7ZMNQ9ZnU by UberGeek@social.buffalomesh.net
2019-06-01T16:09:08Z
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@ThndrI'd be good with that, like an opt in list, and have advocated for that ability in mastodon.
(DIR) Post #9jPUf7xFoVktofOnSa by judgedread@freespeechextremist.com
2019-06-01T17:48:25.147997Z
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@adrint @Gargron @tom79 @Steve12L @mathieu State mandated homosexuality is near. Sam Hyde was a prophet.