Post 9irPeo1dIrDmhMLcIq by kensanata@octodon.social
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(DIR) Post #9iqpDsXKpEwaWO2LLc by tomasino@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-05-14T22:41:25Z
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#CYOA got a cease and desist let from ChooseCo, so sadly we're stopping the show and removing the web archives. If you want to listen to the historic stuff you can hit up my gopher hole.Thanks to all the eager listeners each week. Maybe after the move I'll revisit a show under a new name.#anonradio #tilderadio
(DIR) Post #9iqpDsgCII26xsBQA4 by ieure@mastodon.social
2019-05-14T23:00:53Z
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@tomasino Perfect time to lean into Cover Your Own Ass.
(DIR) Post #9iqpapjFQmzkTPYRyi by cdmnky@kawen.space
2019-05-14T22:56:38.579218Z
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@tomasino damn, what're the chances that an underground radio show gets hit like this
(DIR) Post #9iqpapvegev55tMMJk by tomasino@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-05-14T23:21:33Z
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@cdmnky I should have know it would happen now. 29 episodes of me spending absolutely nothing on the show and everything is fine. I buy a mic to make it sound better, BAM, C&D. ;)
(DIR) Post #9iqqDc9bpsUpfKNRpI by FiXato@mastodon.social
2019-05-14T22:45:15Z
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@tomasinoVery sorry to hear that... you'd think they'd welcome people promoting their #CYOA products, but I guess they aren't replayable enough after one has listened to a single playthrough?
(DIR) Post #9iqqDcLf748aGi14c4 by tomasino@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-05-14T23:14:08Z
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@FiXato they weren't really concerned with the show. It was more about the advertising and having stuff in writing. From what I can tell it's fallout from Bandersnatch. ChooseCo is sueing Netflix for 25+mil for using CYOA without permission. Part of copyright legal battles is showing that you are regularly enforcing the sanctity of your brand. Thus... the little guy gets a very nice email asking him to remove stuff.
(DIR) Post #9iqvr0AeyUWBDXT9u4 by adamd@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-05-15T00:27:21Z
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@tomasino Really? That sucks! Underground radio? Encryption? Matrix?
(DIR) Post #9iqwg2kt7rUU08kle4 by UberGeek@social.buffalomesh.net
2019-05-16T01:47:23Z
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@tomasinoDamn... heard about this in tilde.chat, and it sucks big time
(DIR) Post #9iqxBJS95tcOlVtg8G by adamd@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-05-15T00:31:01Z
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@tomasino What law were you braking? Are you saying its not legal to read a book over the radio?
(DIR) Post #9ir4OIReqso95Do6Ou by gemlog@mastodonten.de
2019-05-15T01:22:04Z
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@adamd@tomasinoSomehow I'm not surprised. Maybe it will be fine from .is, but also, maybe this is an opportunity for the more creative types among us to collaborate on e.g. a typepad writing new ones the lawyers in love can't bill hours for. With a different name too. program you own story or... (something better than that, of course), just not something the sharks can smell blood and hour tenths over.
(DIR) Post #9ir4OIoLUWxKDaQDlQ by adamd@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-05-15T01:24:37Z
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@gemlog @tomasino To me its like free advertising. I have a brand new CYOA book next to me that would have never been purchased if not for CYOA. They should thank or pay you tomasino.
(DIR) Post #9ir4OJB28B6VLx2L7w by tomasino@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-05-15T01:57:58Z
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@adamd @gemlog My only regret is that I didn't get a chance to read "You Are A Shark"...https://www.cracked.com/article_22188_7-choose-your-own-adventure-books-clearly-conceived-lsd.html
(DIR) Post #9ir4StMXXH3WjsbXUW by tomasino@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-05-15T01:56:47Z
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@adamd @gemlog I can't hold it against them. They do own the copyright on most of these books I'm reading. I'm also using their name directly, not attempting to call my show the "happily picking your path to death show". The woman who wrote me was very sweet about it and almost apologizing in her request.There are free interactive fiction books I can read, I can write my own, and there are other options to explore. Iceland will bring a new version of the show, I think.
(DIR) Post #9irPcLXwDT9VnFHkum by kensanata@octodon.social
2019-05-15T05:54:22Z
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@tomasino I think this is conflating trade mark law and copyright law but it doesn’t matter too much right now.
(DIR) Post #9irPeo1dIrDmhMLcIq by kensanata@octodon.social
2019-05-15T05:49:14Z
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@tomasino As the enforcement of copyright is still an active choice by the copyright holder it is quite appropriate to hold it against them. Sometimes the right holders are not the artists and then an artist can be apologetic while the rights holder can send cease and desist letters (or worse). But in this case? Just dropping is probably better for overall happiness in life, of course. But still. 😠 @adamd @gemlog
(DIR) Post #9irjwwLv503oovlFaq by yrabbit@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-05-14T22:51:56Z
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@tomasino That's sad.😕
(DIR) Post #9iyyF0bWlkqQgUI6UK by cosullivan@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-05-19T22:42:35Z
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@tomasino nuts. how did they find out? Is livestreaming without archiving a feasible workaround?
(DIR) Post #9jfvScXe5WlEDKvFWi by snowdusk_@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-06-09T16:03:59Z
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@tomasino I just read this. Sad to hear it. ChooseCo should be thankful that you are promoting their products tbh. I'm looking forward to a new show from you... whenever you are ready 👍👍👍 You need to focus on your big move. I hope it goes very smoothly
(DIR) Post #9jfx1WGhVJ3SqbCYEa by solderpunk@tilde.zone
2019-06-09T16:21:32Z
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@tomasino This sucks, massively, and I'm sorry to hear it. A terrible move on their part, IMHO - I literally had no idea ChooseCo existed, I had just assumed those books were abandonware by now. They are indelibly linked in my mind with stomping on the harmless, non-profit fun of, what, a couple dozen people? If they'd just asked you to plug their website occasionally instead, it could have been a small net benefit for them. Petty minds.
(DIR) Post #9jfxPA2tmL5OsK1EFk by tomasino@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-06-09T16:25:49Z
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@solderpunk the best i can tell, they were aware of my existence for a while and didn't care until Black Mirror did the whole Bandersnatch thing. Netflix didn't get permission and blatantly used Choose Your Own Adventure for their own profit. ChooseCo is suing them for 25mil+ and need to show that they defend the copyright as part of the suit. The person who emailed me was very kind about the whole thing.
(DIR) Post #9jg0RPbrBQklaT8RaC by korthrun@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-06-09T16:59:48Z
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@solderpunkI had the same reaction. I had no idea it was a brand in the first place, let alone something actively maintained. It never occurred to me that all of these books were from the same group.@tomasinoGlad to hear they were as cool about it as one could be.
(DIR) Post #9jg5Yn1P2HutzpQBkm by solderpunk@tilde.zone
2019-06-09T17:57:12Z
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@tomasino Ah, I wasn't aware of the Black Mirror case. I've heard of this sort of thing regarding trademarks before, I didn't think it applied to copyright too? Regardless, it's kind of sad to think the courts could be so easily fooled by a sudden surge of trivial lawsuits immediately after one major one.
(DIR) Post #9jgUzaPiW8F1ZBfVmS by papa@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-06-09T22:42:06Z
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@tomasino @solderpunk It's too bad Netflix and the producers of BM took a shortcut and ruined our fun. It's not as though the couldn't afford paying the royalty.