Post 9hf8oBl8M1sqxTUXfE by machete_Badger@cofe.moe
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(DIR) Post #9hf7wAR93SyfDfNn3A by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-04-10T11:04:55.857720Z
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Tempted to switch to another distro to get bumblebee that isn't extremely broken, and some more stuff in repos.But I like the other parts of void so bleh
(DIR) Post #9hf83n8NZs0zGREyy8 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-04-10T11:06:19.244886Z
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Also can't get wayland working for whatever reason. Gnome works like... halfway, dunno seems to only launch if it feels like it. And sway doesn't wanna work at all.
(DIR) Post #9hf8BrX96WuvE2fozQ by BalooUriza@meow.social
2019-04-10T11:05:26Z
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@quad It works in Debian.
(DIR) Post #9hf8BrhQUJ8ljvU20u by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-04-10T11:07:45.319017Z
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@BalooUriza One part I like about void is the lack of systemd.Devuan hasn't quite been my cup of tea so far. I'm not a fan of those build-type spins in general, including Artix as well.
(DIR) Post #9hf8oBl8M1sqxTUXfE by machete_Badger@cofe.moe
2019-04-10T11:06:45Z
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@quad yea I feel you, it's just Ubuntu and it's spins (especially Pop!_OS) that nails that, and Fedora with it's now default PRIME support.
(DIR) Post #9hf8oBzJVJE5fS7rlY by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-04-10T11:14:40.401235Z
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@machete_Badger If I could get Pop!_OS or Fedora without systemd, I'd probably jump right at them.Fedora was my distro of choice prior to void. Although I had some weird issues with dnf repos and systemd being stupid.One issue I encountered way more than I should've with Fedora, was packages in it's repos, but not their deps. Can't remember off the top of my head, but there were multiple niche libs that if I tried to install, they'd break the dependency chain because their deps weren't in fedora repos even though the package itself was.Guess that's the kind of stuff that happens when you use a distro that's mostly just a testbed for the actual stable distro though.
(DIR) Post #9hf98BXsrI4U5SpTAO by BalooUriza@meow.social
2019-04-10T11:14:35Z
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@quad systemd is really not anywhere near as awful as the haters make it out to be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogoConsidering packaged distros a minus really reminds me of the Gentoo folks about 15 years ago. https://www.shlomifish.org/humour/by-others/funroll-loops/Gentoo-is-Rice.html
(DIR) Post #9hf98C34zJ1beDQNn6 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-04-10T11:18:17.381120Z
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@BalooUriza I am plenty familiar with systemd, I work with it on a daily basis. Just a few weeks ago I had it break http routing in my cluster because of a newer version of systemd not working in unprivileged containers: https://github.com/lxc/lxc/issues/2778I switched not because the internet said sytemd was bad. I switched because I realized that all the past 5 issues I'd had on my laptop that took more than 30 minutes to troubleshoot somehow led back to systemd.I've had far fewer issues since leaving systemd and because of that I don't want to go back anytime soon.The core unit-based init system is genius though, but it should've just stayed that way imo.
(DIR) Post #9hf9ceQQ37VkLKrgI4 by machete_Badger@cofe.moe
2019-04-10T11:21:26Z
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@quad Sorry to hear that really, I've never come across that happening since using Fedora in 26+ and it mostly happens when building packages which is sort of understandable, but not coprs or rpmfusion / main repo. Other than that systemd hasn't affected me negatively yet so I can't comment, but it's good that you have valid reasons for using a systemd-less distro and not just out of barragement.
(DIR) Post #9hf9cecTKJ9UwiVJ4q by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-04-10T11:23:48.349635Z
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@machete_Badger I run plenty of systemd-based servers.I usually end up regretting it when they never come back online after a reboot though. If I remember correctly, the Fedora version I was on when I moved to Void was 27
(DIR) Post #9hf9qPU8OQJw3sAC0W by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-04-10T11:26:17.919574Z
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@machete_Badger Heck, my NAS at home runs Arch with systemd. Very handy to be able to use network interfaces and mounts as deps for services.But I don't really trust it outside of overly tested distros such as Ubuntu, CentOS and Debian which have gone through overkill amounts of testing
(DIR) Post #9hfYElZsIp1qQjzlwG by Wolf480pl@niu.moe
2019-04-10T15:59:37Z
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@quad >nvidiaoh dear...
(DIR) Post #9hfYNXBZBIosOso2Zk by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-04-10T16:01:12.914304Z
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@Wolf480pl One of the few things that keep me from considering the T480 my perfect laptop. Detailed here: https://blog.quad.moe/posts/my-new-thinkpad-the-t480/