Post 977176 by hellpie@weeaboo.space
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(DIR) Post #977152 by hellpie@weeaboo.space
2018-11-05T00:00:47.626714Z
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Pleroma chat protocol makes me question if it's even worth living at times, in a very serious meaning. This should really describe how bad the whole protocol really is.
(DIR) Post #977165 by debbie@pleroma.apelsin.space
2018-11-05T00:01:39.786323Z
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@hellpie make it better then
(DIR) Post #977169 by lunah@mstdn.io
2018-11-05T00:02:12Z
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@hellpie Why does it have chart?
(DIR) Post #977173 by lunah@mstdn.io
2018-11-05T00:02:23Z
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@hellpie chat** omg
(DIR) Post #977176 by hellpie@weeaboo.space
2018-11-05T00:02:33.365359Z
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@debbie I can't even read Elixir how am I supposed to do so? I tried if you're wondering. I spent TWO MONTHS and I still couldn't make sense of anything in the whole language.
(DIR) Post #977196 by debbie@pleroma.apelsin.space
2018-11-05T00:03:17.352630Z
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@hellpie ok open a issue then.
(DIR) Post #977250 by hellpie@weeaboo.space
2018-11-05T00:04:42.480890Z
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@lunah Because it's nice on some instances, it allows instant, low important messages, non-snoopable by bots since nobody but ME has tried to implement it outside the Pleroma Frontend (not even the Mastodon Frontend Pleroma uses implements it). On some instance it's just an unused button that nobody uses, but for things like private discussions between users it's not bad.Also Lain and others have been working for a (long) while to implement federation so that users from multiple instances could chat with each other, but it has been months since anyone talked about that feature now.
(DIR) Post #977423 by hellpie@weeaboo.space
2018-11-05T00:14:53.723171Z
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@debbie They have been working on chat for the past year if not longer. Their interest is none, their "would like to" interest is high but if you expect me to believe in someone's ideas only because they say "I would like to" then god knows how many politicians would have gained my vote through those words. Instead, I believe in facts, and facts are people don't even use the chat, but I'm too late into this project to give up considering I spent what is a year and a half designing, styling, coding, prototyping, studying, documenting and implementing it.
(DIR) Post #977448 by hellpie@weeaboo.space
2018-11-05T00:16:05.931540Z
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@debbie but if you want to do it, and you know how to do it properly, then please, by all means, go beyond the "would like to" and open a PR, even just reassembling the data in a way that is parseable is enough, I simply have no idea how to do it.
(DIR) Post #977478 by debbie@pleroma.apelsin.space
2018-11-05T00:17:45.339631Z
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@hellpie imo smth like chat shouldnt even be part of pleroma
(DIR) Post #977516 by hellpie@weeaboo.space
2018-11-05T00:19:27.585881Z
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@debbie well it's there and despite the complete and utter uselessness and abandon, both followed and following the lack of an active userbase using the feature.
(DIR) Post #977639 by lunah@mstdn.io
2018-11-05T00:26:01Z
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@hellpie ...but don't regular posts and DMs already do this? 😕
(DIR) Post #977710 by hellpie@weeaboo.space
2018-11-05T00:32:06.286082Z
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@lunah not necessarily.DMs are not private, they are just direct between two users.The fact a DM is hidden depends exclusively on the instance's implementation, and while one instance may implement it as a PM (Private Message), another (see the past of the Pleroma Disrespect fork) may decide to simply ignore privacy settings and redefine everything as public, meaning it would also be re-relayed to all instances federated with it.On top of that Pleroma's chat is not a DM, it works (currently) by only keeping 20 messages at most, it's truly instant, meaning the users don't need to wait for federation to relay the message before others can see it and provides a low profile way for members of an instance to freely speek with everyone within that instance (again, currently) without having to tag them all and without having to show notifications to users who don't want to participate.Again with DMs there are other concerns, for example on Mastodon the instance Administrator and sometimes Moderators too can access and read all DMs between users even if one of the two is on another instance, since they are in fact not encrypted, although this is unrelated to the chat in Pleroma since all messages are effectively public with a privacy level that could be compared to the one present in the "Instance Timeline" in Mastodon, also called "Unlisted" in Mastodon's "New Toot" column.
(DIR) Post #978094 by lunah@mstdn.io
2018-11-05T00:56:19Z
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@hellpie u write a lot
(DIR) Post #978103 by hellpie@weeaboo.space
2018-11-05T00:57:22.135009Z
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@lunah mechanical keyboard is comfyAlso when I am tired my brain often resets back a few seconds so I say the same things several times ;.; sorry
(DIR) Post #979268 by lunah@mstdn.io
2018-11-05T02:30:31Z
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@hellpie Work on thatNoob.
(DIR) Post #982191 by hellpie@weeaboo.space
2018-11-05T06:05:40.345267Z
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@lunah no too lazy