Post 884371 by solderpunk@mastodon.sdf.org
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 (DIR) Post #884369 by solderpunk@mastodon.sdf.org
       2018-10-31T17:12:42Z
       
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       Anybody want to share some firsthand experience, or well-considered opinions of, ProtonMail?
       
 (DIR) Post #884370 by cdmnky@kawen.space
       2018-10-31T17:25:17.710230Z
       
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       @solderpunk I only have a free account, which makes things a little annoying- No IMAP/SMTP support on free- With a paid subscription, only thunderbird is officially supported by their own program, although you may be able to set up IMAP/SMTP there- They keep your ProtonMail private keys, you can't control- Linux support for stuff is always last (sometimes years behind)- have to put in 2FA token every time, even if the tab is closed+ Good interface on web and mobile+ built in GPG support+ email link shortening (user@pm.me)+ custom domains and aliases (paid only)+ bundled VPNI think it's pretty solid, but unless you pay for a subscription, and their payment models seem pretty expensive above the basic "plus" plan. In order to get everything, it's $24/month, but I'm no expert on some of the services people might use
       
 (DIR) Post #884371 by solderpunk@mastodon.sdf.org
       2018-10-31T17:32:28Z
       
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       @cdmnky Thanks for this!  I should have done some more careful research of my own first, they actually sound very weird and non-standard, and them having some private key I can't access is pretty much a  dealbreaker.
       
 (DIR) Post #884372 by cdmnky@kawen.space
       2018-10-31T17:38:28.530691Z
       
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       @solderpunk I have a feeling that they did this so that they would be able to give an excuse that only they could encrypt your emails, forcing you to pay for basic imap/smtp through "protonmail bridge"They give out the public GPG keys for each domain and your contacts, but I don't see any private ones
       
 (DIR) Post #884373 by solderpunk@mastodon.sdf.org
       2018-10-31T17:46:17Z
       
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       @cdmnky Tbh, I really just want bog standard SMTP/IMAP/POP mail with good SSL certs, for less money than spinning up my own very low-spec VPS, from somewhere that isn't going to do any datamining on my emails, is not likely to disappear without a trace in the near future, and preferably isn't explicitly branded with some sort of radical politics.
       
 (DIR) Post #884374 by tomasino@mastodon.sdf.org
       2018-10-31T18:00:30Z
       
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       @solderpunk @cdmnky I like neomailbox