Post 609880 by impiaaa@dev.glitch.social
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(DIR) Post #609726 by ninjawedding@sdfn-01.ninjawedding.org
2018-10-18T03:50:14Z
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still amuses me that all you need to do to bypass youtube ads is to not build the necessary machinery to fetch and play them
(DIR) Post #609727 by impiaaa@dev.glitch.social
2018-10-18T03:52:45Z
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@ninjawedding especially since it's the complete opposite from traditional broadcasts, which require significant engineering effort to remove ads from
(DIR) Post #609740 by ninjawedding@sdfn-01.ninjawedding.org
2018-10-18T03:53:57Z
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@impiaaa I'm waiting for some industry type to point this out and make it a Big Deal
(DIR) Post #609751 by impiaaa@dev.glitch.social
2018-10-18T03:54:57Z
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@ninjawedding nobody wants to give up personalized ads and tracking though. in fact they're being added to linear broadcasts, now
(DIR) Post #609769 by ninjawedding@sdfn-01.ninjawedding.org
2018-10-18T03:56:10Z
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@impiaaa I wonder if given enough processing power, one could maintain tracking by doing one encode per user (whether that be through a giant load of disk space or a lot of realtime encode capability)
(DIR) Post #609782 by slickpockets@freespeechextremist.com
2018-10-18T03:57:25.824915Z
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@impiaaa @ninjaweddingwhats a linear broadcasts? sorry for the ignorance, im just a dumb ol country stralian
(DIR) Post #609787 by impiaaa@dev.glitch.social
2018-10-18T03:57:50Z
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@slickpockets @ninjawedding technical term for either cable TV or over-the-air antenna TV
(DIR) Post #609792 by impiaaa@dev.glitch.social
2018-10-18T03:58:20Z
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@slickpockets @ninjawedding or satellite, whatever. idea is that it's real-time, non-random-access. linear.
(DIR) Post #609806 by slickpockets@freespeechextremist.com
2018-10-18T03:59:58.503713Z
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@impiaaa @ninjawedding haha, cheers mabah.. good to know... so it basically means adds can be tuned to audience then?
(DIR) Post #609880 by impiaaa@dev.glitch.social
2018-10-18T04:03:39Z
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@ninjawedding realtime reencode is possible, but not at youtube scale. you don't need that for personalization or tracking, though, as long as an ad is the same format as the main content you can just concatenate and re-mux. client can still figure out where the ad is, but it would require actual effort. server knows how long the ad is and can track that way. but anyway, all this is theoretical, I assume they do it this way for maximum flexibility and better user experience.
(DIR) Post #609940 by impiaaa@dev.glitch.social
2018-10-18T04:08:05Z
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@slickpockets @ninjawedding right, the advantage of internet video is that, just like other internet ads, the distributor can customize the ad each user sees, better cater to the audience. linear TV can't do that since it's the same video stream for everybody, ads have always been part of the main stream. but some cable companies, that can control the end receiver software, have tech to make it more like internet video and replace ads in the broadcast on the client side.
(DIR) Post #609946 by ninjawedding@sdfn-01.ninjawedding.org
2018-10-18T04:08:20Z
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@impiaaa yeah, that would be a lot more efficient, and it is a lot easier to serve up ads the way they currently have it. terms of service is probably (so far) good enough enforcement
(DIR) Post #609986 by slickpockets@freespeechextremist.com
2018-10-18T04:10:32.552999Z
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@impiaaa @ninjawedding i would prefer to bundle a inferno worker node and allow my unused cpu cycles be used when im not using my computers than have adds... idea for a new web browser with explicitly no adds
(DIR) Post #610047 by ninjawedding@sdfn-01.ninjawedding.org
2018-10-18T04:14:11Z
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@impiaaa @slickpockets (I had no idea that this is what was going on in the broadcast arena, so this is really cool to know. now I wonder if what I play on the DVR is tracked this way)