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(DIR) Post #2509107 by rixx@chaos.social
2019-01-01T13:51:22Z
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So @therojam mentioned that there could be interest in a chaos blogging page. Most people I know have their own blogs (or just use medium/github pages/…). Plume looks a bit simplistic, but it seems easy to use, and it federates, so if there is a sizeable amount of interest from people without blogs who would use plume, I'd consider hosting a chaos related blogging instance. Talk to me! :fairydust:
(DIR) Post #2509236 by therojam@chaos.social
2019-01-01T13:55:58Z
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@rixx I would also help you in Administration or Installation
(DIR) Post #2509487 by ajuvo@chaos.social
2019-01-01T14:04:32Z
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@rixx @therojam the proof is in the pudding - give it a try
(DIR) Post #2509559 by rixx@chaos.social
2019-01-01T14:06:53Z
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@ajuvo Wrong answer, sorry. Just starting something, committing to consistent quality and work (as you do as an administrator), without any idea if and how many people are interested, and if therea are existing alternatives, is a horrible idea and leads to activist burnout.
(DIR) Post #2509586 by tercean@chaos.social
2019-01-01T14:07:55Z
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@rixx Hachja, Plume. Bin auch schon am überlegen mein pelican-Gebastel durch Plume zu ersetzen um dann dort nix zu schreiben :3
(DIR) Post #2509601 by rixx@chaos.social
2019-01-01T14:08:33Z
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@tercean Achnee, für mich selber werden es immer SSG bleiben. Bin da unlängst von einem zum nächsten gezogen, und der macht einfach alles richtig und gut, und ich schreib ja sogar gelegentlich!
(DIR) Post #2509648 by tercean@chaos.social
2019-01-01T14:10:36Z
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@rixx Dieses ActivityPub-Geraffel könnte halt ein bisschen mehr Leben in die Bude bringen... Mit meinem Setup bin ich sonst auch zufrieden, Schnippsel in den Draft-Ordner werfen, commiten, und es rollt automatisch bis zu Stage durch wo ich es dann ignoriere ;D
(DIR) Post #2509743 by ajuvo@chaos.social
2019-01-01T14:14:12Z
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@rixx valid point. In my experience, it's about trial/test design, resource limitation, cut-off criteria, and yes, you're right, to start with enough bang.
(DIR) Post #2510398 by don@chaos.social
2019-01-01T14:32:25Z
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@rixx Blogging is definitely on my todo list. But I can't promise anything.
(DIR) Post #2512352 by kawaiipunk@sunbeam.city
2019-01-01T15:34:21Z
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@rixx @therojam Sunbeam has a Plume instance.Feel free to sign up and play around before setting up ur own instancehttps://cafe.sunbeam.city/
(DIR) Post #2513699 by rami@chaos.social
2019-01-01T16:26:50Z
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@rixx @therojam My feeling is that this is happening on twitter not because it's so hard to get a blog up, but because of discoverability and feedback.If I tweet (or thread-tweet), it feels like a lot of people read it and react (at least like). If I'd link to a blog post, much less people would read it and even less would react, making justbless rewarding.
(DIR) Post #2513736 by rixx@chaos.social
2019-01-01T16:28:48Z
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@rami @therojam Yeah, sure, which is another point in favor of a blogging platform that at least federates.
(DIR) Post #2513759 by rami@chaos.social
2019-01-01T16:28:26Z
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@rixx @therojam at least, that's my theory, and it maps to my own behaviour, I'm much more likely to read a twitter thread than a blogpost. It feels shorter (even when it isn't), and it's native to the platform I'm already on (loads fast, looks good on mobile, ...)
(DIR) Post #2513760 by rixx@chaos.social
2019-01-01T16:29:38Z
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@rami @therojam Maybe we just can't win against people just dumping everything on Twitter – if even the chaos community isn't willing to work on this, I'm not sure we have a chance (at least until the next monopolist cool platform comes along). Whelp.
(DIR) Post #2513840 by rami@chaos.social
2019-01-01T16:30:20Z
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@rixx @therojam So if we'd look to solve this, just hosting individual blog instances for people (think WordPress Multisite) won't do it, we'd need discoverability and interaction.In fact, what I'm describing sounds a lot like a good old forum/bulletin board, doesn't it?
(DIR) Post #2513841 by rixx@chaos.social
2019-01-01T16:32:03Z
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@rami @therojam Kind of? I'd think a collaborative blogging page that also federates (which allows comments and boosts instead of pingbacks) should provide at least interaction, and since those instances have local timelines, they help with discoverability, too.(But I can kind of see that this idea is dead in the water before starting it, I just wanted to run it against the local community to make sure.)
(DIR) Post #2513845 by rami@chaos.social
2019-01-01T16:32:06Z
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@rixx @therojam how would auch a platform differ from mastodon with longer toot length, except being a separate thing?
(DIR) Post #2513929 by vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de
2019-01-01T16:35:38Z
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@rixx @rami @therojam there are Wordpress plugins that are a mixture of blog and forum, unfortunately I don't think they currently work directly with federated services. I do have a blog but haven't had as much to put on it and my experience is relatively few people comment and keeping out spammers (whilst not blocking legitimate comments like a Chinese lad who made use of my pager transmitter project) can be quite a task..
(DIR) Post #2513931 by rixx@chaos.social
2019-01-01T16:35:44Z
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@rami Well, the fediverse part is more like the practical RSS feed with integrated comments, you don't see it on the website directly. https://cafe.sunbeam.city/ is an example of a running plume instance.
(DIR) Post #2513999 by rami@chaos.social
2019-01-01T16:37:37Z
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@rixx @therojam Proposal: Mastodon with infinite toot length, but only if a content warning / some title field is set (so scrolling stays comfortable). Tada: Federated blogging platform that already has users and doesn't require me to read yet another platform.
(DIR) Post #2514000 by rixx@chaos.social
2019-01-01T16:38:44Z
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@rami But if you're only reading, you won't need another platform, because you could follow my blog account? Mastodon does hide/shorten overly long posts. The question isn't how to get you to read what I write, the question is how to get you to write there yourself.
(DIR) Post #2514079 by rami@chaos.social
2019-01-01T16:41:50Z
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@rixx You would crosspost content or a link? I much less frequently click on links here to read things externally than I read twitter threads.
(DIR) Post #2514102 by rixx@chaos.social
2019-01-01T16:43:03Z
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@rami Huh? You could follow rixx@chaos.blog same as you follow rixx@chaos.social, and see my blog posts in your chaos.social timeline. You'd have to hit "expand" if they're long enough to make Mastodon hide part of the content, and that would be it.
(DIR) Post #2514106 by rami@chaos.social
2019-01-01T16:43:07Z
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@rixx Regarding your actual question: I have no idea. I like my blog(s) for technical content, but for "social" content, I'd always choose a social platform.
(DIR) Post #2514124 by rixx@chaos.social
2019-01-01T16:43:48Z
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@rami Yeah, I got that the chaos community will remain on Twitter, I just wish I could change it.
(DIR) Post #2514136 by rami@chaos.social
2019-01-01T16:44:28Z
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@rixx Ah nice. Sorry, I didn't know it was that compatible (federated != compatible). Although I'd probably miss markup/images in blog contents and stuff.
(DIR) Post #2514155 by rami@chaos.social
2019-01-01T16:45:30Z
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@rixx Nah, Mastodon has structually the same rewarding effect for me, just with a lot less people, which is a different problem and not really related to this discussion, I guess
(DIR) Post #2566780 by LuKaRo@chaos.social
2019-01-03T02:50:31Z
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@rixx @rami I'm not a Twitter user, and I don't think that will change :) I woildn't promise to use a blogging platform, but I could indeed imagine some use cases (documenting how I solved problems that aren't very documented on the net so far, blogging about scripts and small pieces of software I publish etc.) So I guess, I'd use it, if it's convenient enough :)
(DIR) Post #2650580 by LuKaRo@chaos.social
2019-01-04T23:58:19Z
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@rixx @therojam The more I'm thinking about that, the more I am sure that I'd really use such a solution! So if you fire some federated blogging up, I'd definitely join!