Post 23133 by gayhobbes@mastodon.social
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 (DIR) Post #22967 by gayhobbes@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T21:44:08Z
       
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       I'm starting to think the dirtbag left is just made of dirtbags and their political alignment is irrelevant
       
 (DIR) Post #22968 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T21:50:01Z
       
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       @gayhobbes my alignment is very relevant bitch
       
 (DIR) Post #22980 by gayhobbes@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T21:50:38Z
       
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       @stunt_bird you really want to be a dirtbag but you're a sweetheart and I don't think you can handle that
       
 (DIR) Post #22982 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T21:51:19Z
       
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       @gayhobbes terrible news buddy that’s the whole “dirtbag left”
       
 (DIR) Post #22999 by machinedsurfaces@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T21:52:59Z
       
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       @stunt_bird @gayhobbes True Ventano isn't on my chart
       
 (DIR) Post #23005 by gayhobbes@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T21:53:49Z
       
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       @stunt_bird mmmm read my suicide mention post if you aren't triggered by that...
       
 (DIR) Post #23008 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T21:53:54Z
       
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       @machinedsurfaces @gayhobbes Ventano is his own genre
       
 (DIR) Post #23018 by machinedsurfaces@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T21:54:35Z
       
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       @stunt_bird @gayhobbes tru... tru...
       
 (DIR) Post #23023 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T21:54:55Z
       
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       @gayhobbes yeah that’s bad and I’m bummed to hear that, I just think a lot of the time when people throw this term around they literally mean “Felix biederman” haha, like I don’t think this one dude needs his own movement
       
 (DIR) Post #23051 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T21:57:04Z
       
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       @gayhobbes even generally when people are like “oh I hate CTH they make all these ironic racist comments and it’s all jokes about gaming” like you are talking about one man, just say you don’t like him it’s fine haha
       
 (DIR) Post #23055 by gayhobbes@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T21:57:16Z
       
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       @stunt_bird yeah I mean I guess I just associate it with that and defending Nick Mullen's stupid racist jokes and shit, rather than about being someone who is aware of their imperfection but tries to get better but isn't per formatively woke and shit...which I'd call you, y'know
       
 (DIR) Post #23075 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T21:58:44Z
       
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       @gayhobbes yeah I like Mullen too but I also didn’t come to interact with any of these people in a period of trying to be more politically engaged so I can see how that would be a very different experience
       
 (DIR) Post #23089 by gayhobbes@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:00:13Z
       
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       @stunt_bird well and I mean Cumtown is its own thing that shouldn't really be in the same house as CTH even though they're friends, but then the waters get muddied with fuckin Larry Website defending the boys as DSA members and it's all very weird and incestuous at times
       
 (DIR) Post #23120 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:01:45Z
       
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       @gayhobbes Larry had a lot of weird ideas and I’m glad (as a nonmember) that DSA has better online faces than him and the CTH guys by now
       
 (DIR) Post #23121 by gayhobbes@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:02:14Z
       
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       @stunt_bird like Cynthia Nixon! Wait, no
       
 (DIR) Post #23130 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:02:51Z
       
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       @gayhobbes like Peg in DC seems like a genuinely decent person and good organizer and also doesn’t suck shit at Twitter like most people who you can say those two things about haha
       
 (DIR) Post #23133 by gayhobbes@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:03:25Z
       
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       @stunt_bird I love NYC DSA, they've been pretty great and wonderful to work with
       
 (DIR) Post #23135 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:03:35Z
       
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       @gayhobbes WHOOOOOOOPS!
       
 (DIR) Post #23137 by gayhobbes@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:03:55Z
       
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       @stunt_bird we endorse Juumane! Wait he took money from WHEEEERE?
       
 (DIR) Post #23163 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:05:40Z
       
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       @gayhobbes I didn’t even hear about this, is he bad too? At least Salazar won
       
 (DIR) Post #23167 by gayhobbes@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:06:16Z
       
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       @stunt_bird he apparently believes that abortion is bad but that it's a "private matter" and eghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
       
 (DIR) Post #23175 by illnessideology@bofa.lol
       2018-09-14T22:06:59Z
       
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       @stunt_bird @gayhobbes what was that dudes deal?
       
 (DIR) Post #23186 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:08:41Z
       
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       @illnessideology @gayhobbes his idea of recruiting people to DSA seemed to just be talking about the DSA a lot
       
 (DIR) Post #23202 by illnessideology@bofa.lol
       2018-09-14T22:09:58Z
       
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       @stunt_bird @gayhobbes gotcha. Any idea why he left Twitter? One day he wasn’t there posting memes
       
 (DIR) Post #23210 by gayhobbes@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:11:01Z
       
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       @stunt_bird @illnessideology but also mostly talking to his friends--I remembered tweeting at him a few times about how I'd gotten my circle of friends to all join DSA and he didn't even LIKE my tweets about it
       
 (DIR) Post #23213 by coachmcguirkstcowtattoo@radical.town
       2018-09-14T22:07:38Z
       
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       @gayhobbes @stunt_bird he was homophobic too. Salazar is a mess but at least most of it is being spun out to be worse than it is
       
 (DIR) Post #23214 by gayhobbes@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:10:02Z
       
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       @coachmcguirkstcowtattoo @stunt_bird she exaggerated some shit that everyone exaggerates and got dragged for it, then a ton of outright lies got spread about her
       
 (DIR) Post #23215 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:11:38Z
       
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       @gayhobbes @coachmcguirkstcowtattoo I feel like, like AOC she wasn’t necessarily looking for a national spotlight but being in DSA and running for office tends to get you one even if you’re not ready
       
 (DIR) Post #23227 by Jewbacchus@octodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:13:37Z
       
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       @stunt_bird @gayhobbes @coachmcguirkstcowtattoo my basic feeling is no one running for office is going to be a good person but these are all vastly better people than who they're running against, and if they're running under DSA platform they will be easier to agitate toward a good position if need be.
       
 (DIR) Post #23237 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:14:34Z
       
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       @gayhobbes @illnessideology yeah early on I DMed him about joining DSA to ask what they were actually doing and he responded “well it varies” and then never followed up haha
       
 (DIR) Post #23276 by bax@bofa.lol
       2018-09-14T22:15:54Z
       
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       @stunt_bird @gayhobbes @illnessideology everyone forgets he pretended he was Mexican IRL until he got doxxed
       
 (DIR) Post #23279 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:16:19Z
       
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       @bax @gayhobbes @illnessideology oh yeah why was he constantly posting pics of a Hispanic baby
       
 (DIR) Post #23296 by dubsteppenwolf@bofa.lol
       2018-09-14T22:17:44Z
       
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       @bax @stunt_bird @gayhobbes @illnessideology remember how we all thought he was a grown ass adult because of some vague posts about his "kids" and then we found out they were his nephews or whatever
       
 (DIR) Post #23297 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:19:01Z
       
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       @dubsteppenwolf @bax @gayhobbes @illnessideology he never straight up lied about it either I was just like “yeah how’s your son man” and he was like “lol what that’s my nephew” haha
       
 (DIR) Post #23313 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:19:40Z
       
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       @dubsteppenwolf @bax @gayhobbes @illnessideology anyway as constantly online socialists go, seemed pretty mentally healthy
       
 (DIR) Post #23346 by bax@bofa.lol
       2018-09-14T22:22:28Z
       
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       @stunt_bird @dubsteppenwolf @gayhobbes @illnessideology yeah same w the "he's Mexican" stuff, like someone else would say it & he's add a smiley emojii
       
 (DIR) Post #23367 by coachmcguirkstcowtattoo@radical.town
       2018-09-14T22:24:40Z
       
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       @stunt_bird @gayhobbes the thing I hate the most about the discourse is I end up having to defend them from donut twitter like they’re a comedy podcast who talk  about politics and got money because of Thst. I hate them but when irony center scumbags like dsa  boletaria  And porno Matt gets free reign to harass women it’s like y’all don’t reallt care
       
 (DIR) Post #23373 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:25:26Z
       
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       @bax @dubsteppenwolf @gayhobbes @illnessideology well anyway congrats to him on recruiting so well that the org is now doomed to fracture into 4-5 different small orgs in the next 3 years
       
 (DIR) Post #23404 by gayhobbes@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:28:15Z
       
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       @stunt_bird @bax @dubsteppenwolf @illnessideology 3 years, why so optimistic?
       
 (DIR) Post #23409 by bax@bofa.lol
       2018-09-14T22:28:30Z
       
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       @stunt_bird @dubsteppenwolf @gayhobbes @illnessideology lmaoo so true
       
 (DIR) Post #23427 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:29:52Z
       
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       @gayhobbes @bax @dubsteppenwolf @illnessideology oh right 2020 will blow it up when a third of the org wants to endorse Corey Booker
       
 (DIR) Post #23439 by gayhobbes@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:30:55Z
       
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       @stunt_bird @bax @dubsteppenwolf @illnessideology it's weird being in DSA because inherently everyone there has some belief in the merit of electoral politics but some of them are like me who are just trying to radicalize the org and others are like...I don't know. Out to fucking lunch is the nicest way to put it.
       
 (DIR) Post #23442 by illnessideology@bofa.lol
       2018-09-14T22:31:18Z
       
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       @stunt_bird @bax @dubsteppenwolf @gayhobbes might be for the better tbh
       
 (DIR) Post #23446 by ursamajor@bofa.lol
       2018-09-14T22:31:36Z
       
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       @stunt_bird @dubsteppenwolf @bax @gayhobbes @illnessideology this whole exchange has taught me a great deal about a lot dynamics I was never able to figure out on my own or even know how to articulate the question to ask
       
 (DIR) Post #23492 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:36:30Z
       
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       @ursamajor @dubsteppenwolf @bax @gayhobbes @illnessideology I’m a very reasonable dirtbag
       
 (DIR) Post #23571 by gayhobbes@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:32:38Z
       
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       @ursamajor @stunt_bird @dubsteppenwolf @bax @illnessideology a productive conversation? What are we doing here, shouldn't we dissolve into petty accusations now
       
 (DIR) Post #23572 by dubsteppenwolf@bofa.lol
       2018-09-14T22:33:22Z
       
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       @gayhobbes @ursamajor @stunt_bird @bax @illnessideology pretty sure we're all supposed to block each other now and spend the next week subtooting about "abusers"
       
 (DIR) Post #23573 by gayhobbes@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:34:52Z
       
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       @dubsteppenwolf @ursamajor @stunt_bird @bax @illnessideology Alan Ventano never sold my fucking home
       
 (DIR) Post #23574 by stunt_bird@mastodon.social
       2018-09-14T22:43:29Z
       
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       @gayhobbes @dubsteppenwolf @ursamajor @bax @illnessideology of course not motherfucker it was structurally sound