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 (DIR) Post #2226755 by whtrbt@merveilles.town
       2018-12-23T20:56:10Z
       
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       I am trying to learn some JavaScript on my holidays too. I've never been able to call myself a programmer.I spend a lot of time thinking in systems and processes because of my work, and I can usually bash things together until I figure them out. But I've never felt capable of writing a complete application.
       
 (DIR) Post #2226774 by neauoire@merveilles.town
       2018-12-23T20:59:01Z
       
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       @whtrbt JS is a lot of fun, I'd be happy to help if you think you need code review :)
       
 (DIR) Post #2226806 by whtrbt@merveilles.town
       2018-12-23T21:01:08Z
       
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       @neauoire That would be great. I'm not even at that stage yet though!I really need to set myself a tiny project and work through it - that's usually the best way for me to learn.Any ideas, something small that might be useful for this community?
       
 (DIR) Post #2226862 by neauoire@merveilles.town
       2018-12-23T21:03:51Z
       
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       @whtrbt Make yourself a blog/site that you can add to the webring :)
       
 (DIR) Post #2226922 by whtrbt@merveilles.town
       2018-12-23T21:06:25Z
       
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       @neauoire that is a good idea.
       
 (DIR) Post #2226947 by jim@merveilles.town
       2018-12-23T20:59:33Z
       
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       @whtrbt what are the things you would like to create?
       
 (DIR) Post #2226948 by whtrbt@merveilles.town
       2018-12-23T21:03:37Z
       
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       @jim A tiny game creation system? Learn something about machine learning and play with bird vocalisations? A fun little synthesiser? A roguelike?
       
 (DIR) Post #2226949 by jim@merveilles.town
       2018-12-23T21:06:22Z
       
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       @whtrbt Ambitious! I'm kind of a website junkie so I will say maybe you should get a website/webserver up like @neauoire suggested and we can help you go from there.I imagine you have some cool ideas... anyway to start:https://github.com/zeit/next.js/tree/canary/examples/with-emotionI usually throw people at this example to see some modern web development.
       
 (DIR) Post #2226950 by neauoire@merveilles.town
       2018-12-23T21:07:44Z
       
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       @jim @whtrbt Making a website in JS doesn't have to be ambitious, all this react madness is just a distraction from building simple lean static sites.
       
 (DIR) Post #2226963 by jim@merveilles.town
       2018-12-23T21:08:48Z
       
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       @neauoire @whtrbt I agree to an extentsometimes it can magically abstract away some learning complexity (although add some)and sometimes it can indirectly teach you something
       
 (DIR) Post #2227141 by whtrbt@merveilles.town
       2018-12-23T21:18:24Z
       
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       @jim @neauoire @bee I like the idea of making a site for myself, so I will think about what that would be. That's good, it's something to work towards.@neauoire, I saw you just discovered Arne's site (androidarts)... that is an OLD WEB FASHIONED TREASURE TROVE OF GOODNESS.
       
 (DIR) Post #2227142 by jim@merveilles.town
       2018-12-23T21:19:44Z
       
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       @whtrbt @neauoire @bee part of learning is failing with energy.
       
 (DIR) Post #2227143 by neauoire@merveilles.town
       2018-12-23T21:20:26Z
       
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       @jim @whtrbt @bee I read that as "flailing", and I instinctively nodded.