Post 2126125 by nikivi@merveilles.town
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(DIR) Post #2126125 by nikivi@merveilles.town
2018-12-19T20:20:52Z
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What do you guys dislike about Twitter? If anything. Just curious.
(DIR) Post #2126126 by ian@merveilles.town
2018-12-19T20:23:35Z
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@nikivi For me, the things I dislike most are the advertising and management (@jack). I've met a lot of friends there (like you guys!) and don't plan on totally eliminating it for a while, but it's flawed for sure.
(DIR) Post #2126127 by neauoire@merveilles.town
2018-12-19T20:28:11Z
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@ian @nikivi I don't like that they killed their own desktop app. I don't like that the feed is curated. I don't like that you can't press `cmd+enter` to post(what's with that?!). But I still like the place. Lots of cool people that I have yet to meet, it's excellent to find new music and art.
(DIR) Post #2126128 by ian@merveilles.town
2018-12-19T20:29:33Z
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@neauoire @nikivi CMD + ENTER kills me!! Everything should be command enter to send.
(DIR) Post #2126129 by gaeel@merveilles.town
2018-12-19T22:04:19Z
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@ian @neauoire @nikivi Wait, I can do cmd+enter to post on Twitter with no problem...You can't do this?
(DIR) Post #2126130 by ian@merveilles.town
2018-12-19T22:13:09Z
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@gaeel @neauoire @nikivi No, it doesn't work for me! What browser are you on?
(DIR) Post #2126131 by eel@merveilles.town
2018-12-20T06:00:34Z
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@ian @gaeel @neauoire @nikivi I can also send tweets with `ctrl+enter`, from firefox on linux
(DIR) Post #2126132 by neauoire@merveilles.town
2018-12-20T08:29:09Z
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@eel @ian @gaeel @nikivi firefox on OSX `ctrl+enter` in sidebar view doesn't work.
(DIR) Post #2126748 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-12-20T09:06:33.481202Z
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@nikivi Given that it's not a business model that can survive without advertisements and selling user data, it's inherently hostile.A decentralized architecture is better for this sort of thing. Administrative overreach is limited to individual instances. This is more relevant now that Twitter has taken to banning people for worrying about turning the friggin' frogs gay.Twitter deprecated the API endpoints that a lot of clients used, including Bitlbee, which is what I used to interact with Twitter.Urrbody constantly angry nowadays. Here's a graph I generated while testing out my sentiment analysis bot. In line with most people's gut feel, you can see a pretty steep dropoff starting 2015. It's just not fun any more.The curated timeline and constant pushing of ecelebs and politicians make it tedious and uninteresting. It shifted the focus, it was annoying.Then, finally, the horrible growth-hacking and engagement-whoring the platform itself started engaging in.twitter_sentiment.jpgtwitterbecomesbuzzfeed.pngtwitterquality.jpgbirthday.png
(DIR) Post #2131954 by judgedread@freespeechextremist.com
2018-12-20T13:10:09.055056Z
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@p @nikivi How did you measure sentiment? Making Twitter an echo chamber didn't cheer people up?
(DIR) Post #2136773 by eel@merveilles.town
2018-12-20T16:52:45Z
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@neauoire @ian @gaeel @nikivi ok, what is sidebar view?
(DIR) Post #2140222 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-12-20T19:32:23.559651Z
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@judgedread @nikivi The first pass was fairly conventional, using the word-based method, starting with some manual datasets I found, merged and normalized, as the initial assumptions for the training, then used two Bayesian classifiers. Since the bot's purpose was to respond to sentiment in conversations in real-time, I trained it on Twitter and old IRC logs, things like this, instead of using the big Amazon reviews dataset (which, because it wasn't conversational, seemed like a bad match). I threw in Twitter because I wanted it to learn emojis. It came out all right, all things considered: 80% or so accuracy on manual checks after training, maybe it would have been more if I had trained it more.I think Twitter's approach made everything worse. People getting mad about controversies bumps engagement metrics, Twitter loves them some engagement metrics. For example, it looks like mentions of Ferguson peaked in Nov 2014. Then, obviously, the election, everyone was mad all the time.
(DIR) Post #2140381 by neauoire@merveilles.town
2018-12-20T19:37:36Z
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@eel @ian @gaeel @nikivi The way I use twitter and Mastodon, is by running them in a tile.https://merveilles.town/@neauoire/101269972957261342
(DIR) Post #2240952 by judgedread@freespeechextremist.com
2018-12-24T09:10:57.915217Z
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@p I suspect people are just getting angrier, and Twitter reflects the real world.Look at the polarization graphs of congress. Bipartisanship is dead.Civil war not out of the question.
(DIR) Post #2241093 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-12-24T09:22:12.275218Z
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@judgedread That may be the case, but I'm hopeful that it is not. Anger is exhausting.If there is a civil war of any sort, it'll be messier than the last one. I don't think any states are going to secede in the near term, due to how the polarization falls this time.
(DIR) Post #2241112 by judgedread@freespeechextremist.com
2018-12-24T09:23:51.284555Z
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@p You don't steal everything from 200 million people without making them angry.With that deep bench we can be angry in shifts for quite some time.