Post 1779619 by pea@fuckonthefirst.date
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(DIR) Post #1779591 by pea@fuckonthefirst.date
2018-12-06T19:46:35.697017Z
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oh are people saying pleroma users are nazis againcool
(DIR) Post #1779619 by pea@fuckonthefirst.date
2018-12-06T19:47:02.939672Z
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somehow i never end up too caught in that because no one realises that fotfd runs pleroma it seems like usually?
(DIR) Post #1779636 by pea@fuckonthefirst.date
2018-12-06T19:47:20.753947Z
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but still, off
(DIR) Post #1779910 by Pyretta@sapphos.be
2018-12-06T19:52:02Z
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@pea I mean, Kaniini said "we're not gonna do anything about 4chan pedos on Pleroma because Gargron doesn't do anything about baraag.net." but ok
(DIR) Post #1779911 by pea@fuckonthefirst.date
2018-12-06T19:54:59.120930Z
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@Pyretta if you don't think that's reasonable i don't entirely know what to say to you
(DIR) Post #1779930 by Pyretta@sapphos.be
2018-12-06T19:55:19Z
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@pea Tolerating pedos because your competition tolerates pedos is just what
(DIR) Post #1779931 by pea@fuckonthefirst.date
2018-12-06T19:55:55.111775Z
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@Pyretta "tolerating pedos" I think you misunderstand, pleroma.site has a well-maintained blocklist and solid moderation team
(DIR) Post #1779958 by pea@fuckonthefirst.date
2018-12-06T19:56:48.375662Z
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@Pyretta kaniini absolutely doesn't tolerate pedos, but you can't take a free software license and add "also if you're a pedo you can't use this" because it honestly probably invalidates the whole license and has exactly 0 legal power
(DIR) Post #1780003 by pea@fuckonthefirst.date
2018-12-06T19:58:07.693646Z
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@Pyretta plus, with it being free software and all, the same groups will just fork pleroma and call their fork something different even if there *were* some way to do this
(DIR) Post #1780100 by lain@pleroma.soykaf.com
2018-12-06T19:59:13.043792Z
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@Pyretta @pea pleroma can do as much about "4chan pedos" hosting servers as Microsoft can do about "4chan pedos" running windows.
(DIR) Post #1780154 by Pyretta@sapphos.be
2018-12-06T19:59:53Z
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@lain @pea The fact of the matter is there is constant moral cowardice from the Pleroma devs refusing to condemn the Pleroma instances full of pedos and nazis.
(DIR) Post #1780155 by lain@pleroma.soykaf.com
2018-12-06T20:02:01.077356Z
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@Pyretta @pea hope someone makes a nice condemnation-as-a-service platform soon so I can automate process.
(DIR) Post #1780264 by flussence@kawen.space
2018-12-06T20:05:38.468420Z
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@lain i think that site's closing down in 11 days actually
(DIR) Post #1780313 by kaniini@pleroma.site
2018-12-06T20:07:27.211047Z
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@lain @pea yes, i think people forget that at the core of the project it is just a few people working really hard to coordinate nearly a hundred devs, provide support, start working groups, etc. we simply do not have the free time to sit around looking for bad instances to shame.
(DIR) Post #1780586 by Nachbarschaft@bildung.social
2018-12-06T20:14:25Z
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@kaniini @pea @lain "nearly a hundred devs" - sounds good
(DIR) Post #1781684 by Pyretta@sapphos.be
2018-12-06T19:58:01Z
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@pea No I mean, they won't decry or encourage others to block the pedo instances, they ignore them and let people do as they will with those instances. TL;DR Kaniini is a moral coward who won't condemn nazis and pedos using their software.
(DIR) Post #1781685 by kaniini@pleroma.site
2018-12-06T20:45:17.769632Z
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@Pyretta @pea actually, I do it all the time. when we find instances with unacceptable content, we add them to our blocklist and we announce the change. you can also view our blocklist (as well as the exact actions taken) in our nodeinfo: https://pleroma.site/nodeinfo/2.0.jsonin fact the transparency of automatically exposing instance blocks in nodeinfo was explicitly to make it easier for new people to find out which instances they may want to consider blocking.there is also https://info.pleroma.site/federation.html which expands on the data exposed in nodeinfo, providing explanations for the goals behind who and what we block. if anything, the practice of being transparent with regards to blocking instances is a common practice in the pleroma community.
(DIR) Post #1781905 by Thndr@pleroma.site
2018-12-06T20:16:03.557133Z
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@Pyretta @pea @lain How does repeatedly saying 'Nazis and Pedis are bad' stop Nazis and pedos from downloading and using their own pleroma instance? Especially since it's been said multiple times and yet they still keep using it.Should the devs constantly apologize for making something that works and runs cheaply just because nazis and pedos are cheap bastards who don't want to pay to run masto on cheap vps providers?If that's the case then you should probably ban all books and become a hardcore anarchist
(DIR) Post #1782874 by Naleid@pleroma.site
2018-12-06T21:10:50.330374Z
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@Pyretta @pea what should they do different to make you happy? Wake up every morning and remind everyone they don't like nazis before going about their day?They denounced them already and have no legal means to prevent nazis from using their software, and Kaniini even blocks those types of instances from their own instance, with announcement every time it crops up.Doesn't matter how many times they denounce nazis, you fuckers keep coming out of the woodwork with your malicious claims and make no effort to look back at the context of everything. Yet Gargron gets off scott free when hes made less of an effort to denounce nazis than the pleroma devs do - since he doesnt get accused of supporting nazis every day he doesnt have to defend himself. How is that fair?
(DIR) Post #1837518 by sw0rn@niu.moe
2018-12-08T13:48:17Z
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@pea it's fucked up how "not zealously condemning the thing i hate" is reframed as "moral cowardice"
(DIR) Post #1837519 by sw0rn@niu.moe
2018-12-08T13:49:14Z
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@pea not even "i want you to do this" but "i expect you to do this and you're subhuman if you don't"pretending something supererogatory is "just basic decency"
(DIR) Post #1940056 by ivan@vucica.net
2018-12-12T21:04:21.873317Z
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@kaniiniY'all should clearly have social media marketers and community managers and stuff, top priority and stuff@lain @pea