Post 125787 by mattbisme@niu.moe
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(DIR) Post #124653 by animeirl@social.homunyan.com
2018-09-21T18:54:06Z
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I think if the Windows and Linux gui packages for GPG had the same quality as GPGTools on MacOS, the standard would be more popular.
(DIR) Post #124734 by ilovecomputers@niu.moe
2018-09-21T19:01:32Z
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@animeirl Usenet was made a quality experience with UnisonIRC with ColloquyI love how MacOS has encouraged well designed apps for even the most technical protocols
(DIR) Post #125015 by animeirl@social.homunyan.com
2018-09-21T19:15:38Z
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@ilovecomputers yeah. unfortunately it rarely travels back to windows/linux land
(DIR) Post #125787 by mattbisme@niu.moe
2018-09-21T20:02:39Z
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@animeirl @ilovecomputers I think a large part of it is also a culture that has become a self-fulfilling prophesy. Developers with an eye for design are attracted to macOS. As more well-designed apps appear on macOS, more design-focused developers want to be part of the platform. This is why I’m very bothered by all the garbage “shovel-ware” and electron/web-based apps that have been showing up. New developers look at this and think, “I guess this is acceptable.”
(DIR) Post #125812 by animeirl@social.homunyan.com
2018-09-21T20:03:52Z
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@mattbisme @ilovecomputers many electron apps have decent uis at least. VSCode, Discord, Insomnia, for example
(DIR) Post #125928 by mattbisme@niu.moe
2018-09-21T20:08:43Z
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@animeirl @ilovecomputers Discord drives me nuts. I actually don’t like the UI. But it’s more about subtle things. Non-native right click menus and input boxes… things like that. There’s a series of similar things that make the experience annoying; not to mention poor performance. UX is easily just as important as UI. A good macOS app is more than a pretty face. It’s about the details.
(DIR) Post #125971 by animeirl@social.homunyan.com
2018-09-21T20:09:52Z
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@mattbisme @ilovecomputers huh, hasn't been my experience. Discord has better real-use performance than many native apps in my experience (due tot he UI being a separate process unlike many badly designed native apps)
(DIR) Post #126173 by mattbisme@niu.moe
2018-09-21T20:22:38Z
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@animeirl @ilovecomputers I find the UI to be slow. I’m on a 2017 i7 MBP, so maybe the performance of electron doesn’t scale well? That is, maybe native elements “catch up” at a certain clock speed? Or maybe a difference of what kind of GPU acceleration is available.
(DIR) Post #126246 by mattbisme@niu.moe
2018-09-21T20:26:02Z
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@animeirl @ilovecomputers also, I wouldn’t compare a good electron app to a “bad” native app. For the best comparison, I would look at the best built apps (of similar functionality) on both ends. What you said suggests that a native app can always beat an electron app (as long as the native app is designed well).
(DIR) Post #126317 by animeirl@social.homunyan.com
2018-09-21T20:29:28Z
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@mattbisme @ilovecomputers True, but I like electron because most good native apps are macOS only and with a well designed electron app there's a chance you'll get it on other platforms.
(DIR) Post #126420 by mattbisme@niu.moe
2018-09-21T20:35:31Z
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@animeirl @ilovecomputers electron definitely has an appeal. But I would say that it should be “the right tool for the right job.” Sometimes it’s better to have multiple native apps to take advantage of each platform’s specific benefits. That said, what about React Native? I don’t know much about it myself, but I’ve been told by others that it could be a “best of both worlds” solution.
(DIR) Post #128795 by animeirl@social.homunyan.com
2018-09-21T22:59:23Z
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@mattbisme @ilovecomputers react native is mobile phones only, though
(DIR) Post #129098 by mattbisme@niu.moe
2018-09-21T23:18:39Z
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@animeirl @ilovecomputers ahh. I didn’t realize that. But, thanks for the info and perspective on electron/your experiences!