Post 104747 by TheOuterLinux@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #104741 by puffinux@fosstodon.org
2018-09-05T23:50:05Z
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Programs I use with Linux (Debian) as my OS:#Firefox (browser)#Libreoffice (office)#Whalebird (mastodon)#Dolphin (file manager)#Riot (instant messenger)#Mirage (image viewer)#Asunder (CD ripper)#Konsole (terminal emulator)#Xpdf (PDF viewer)
(DIR) Post #104742 by sevvie@talk.sevvie.ltd
2018-09-06T01:08:56.018959Z
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@puffinux Hm. Looks fun.Programs I use with my #linux (#archlinux) machines:#GNOME3 (display mgr)#Brave & #FirefoxNightly (browser, image viewer)#LibreOffice (office)#Riot (chat)#nvim (editor)#terminator (term emulator)#tmux (term multiplexer)#mutt (email)#GIMP (image editor)
(DIR) Post #104743 by TheOuterLinux@mastodon.social
2018-09-06T03:19:52Z
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@sevvie @puffinux GNOME3....?! On an Arch machine?! WHAT MADNESS IS THIS! Have ye no i3 fealty?!#MXLinux (Linux distro)#XFCE (desktop environment)#Palemoon (browser)#xviewer (image viewer)#LibreOffice (office)#irssi or a #tox client (chat)#nano (because I'm a sane person)#xfce4-terminal (term emulator)#tmux (term multiplexer)#alpine or #Thunderbird (email)#GIMP, #Krita, #MyPaint, or #GrafX2 for image editing/painting
(DIR) Post #104744 by danyspin97@fosstodon.org
2018-09-06T12:43:42Z
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@TheOuterLinuxI think that using Tox is crazier though xD
(DIR) Post #104745 by TheOuterLinux@mastodon.social
2018-09-06T17:08:03Z
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@danyspin97 I don't know. Most too clients support audio, video, text, and file sharing, as well as group messages. It uses a server temporarily to connect people as encrypted peer-to-peer. If you're worried about the IP part, you'd could just use a VPN or Tor. There's no signup either. You have a portable profile that kind of just knows how to talk to the relay servers. There are clients for almost a all systems, including mobile. Free and open source. Sounds good to me.
(DIR) Post #104746 by danyspin97@fosstodon.org
2018-09-06T17:25:14Z
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@TheOuterLinux Yea, it did sound good to me too. Then some other users point me out to an issue on tox repository. They're dumb asses, they don't know a thing about security, yet they don't accept critics and suggestions.I've never used tox again.https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore/issues/426
(DIR) Post #104747 by TheOuterLinux@mastodon.social
2018-09-06T17:41:16Z
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@danyspin97 Well, I like it and definitely trust it more than Skype or even Signal. Microsoft decides to talk to Whisper/Signal people about using their software in Skype and then shortly afterwards, Signal gets a $50M donation from Facebook. They're all compromised to some degree. They're all a mess, be it security or legal stuff, but at least Tox is a fairly unknown one.
(DIR) Post #104748 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2018-09-20T11:22:29Z
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@TheOuterLinux @danyspin97 have you tried #Wire and #Ring? Wire relies on a centralized server, but Ring is #P2P (like #Tox). They're both #FreeCode and both work pretty well for text chat, one-to-one voice calls (although I had persistent echo on Ring the one time I've tesed it so far). I've also tested file-transfer and image sharing on Wire, which work fine. Haven't test conference calling or video chat on either yet.
(DIR) Post #104749 by danyspin97@fosstodon.org
2018-09-20T13:40:16Z
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@strypey @TheOuterLinux Wire is centralized and is really similar to Telegram in design (correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't used it).#Ring is really interesting, I've downloaded it but I've never tried it.In the end #Matrix still seems the most promising one to me, due to the presence of both a public community and a IM.
(DIR) Post #A0Prd9DJoKZ6n3V73I by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2018-09-20T13:57:20Z
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@danyspin97 @TheOuterLinux > Wire is centralized and is really similar to Telegram in designYes, in that both are server/client and not federated. The difference is that #Telegram server source code is non-free. #Wire has released all their source code under copyleft licenses (GPL/AGPL). So, I could run my own Wire server instead of using theirs, but users would probably have to download a modified client to use my server, and they wouldn't be able to chat to users on Wire's server with it.
(DIR) Post #A0PrdGlFkYrwCKQoPw by danyspin97@fosstodon.org
2018-09-20T14:17:18Z
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@strypey @TheOuterLinux Yea, I'm aware of this. I'm currently using Telegram but I'm not tempted to switch to Wire. If I'm gonna use something that is centralized, I prefer Telegram that has a lot of features and Pavel Durov has proved to stand for privacy many times.
(DIR) Post #A0PrdMHhDMn7KOeIBE by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2018-09-20T14:28:25Z
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@danyspin97 @TheOuterLinux that would be an argument for using a #P2P solution like Ring or Tox though, since there's no servers, and thus no network operator whose respect for privacy you need to trust. But they're both young technologies, and will need a lot more dev and security audits before their protocols and client apps can be trusted.
(DIR) Post #A0PrdQAOmRKZMvGWMS by danyspin97@fosstodon.org
2018-09-20T14:31:05Z
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@strypey @TheOuterLinux I would instead go for #Matrix anyway or some chat app that runs on the new distributed protocols.In the end a Matrix server is like a Mastodon server: you use it for communication and if you don't trust it, you just selfhost it. #P2P while being secure might be or might not be the solution to secure private messaging.
(DIR) Post #A0PrdTBvXDKskX0Hey by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2018-09-20T14:36:05Z
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@danyspin97 @TheOuterLinux but what about the people you are talking to? Unless they are all geeks confident with sysadmin practices, they have to trust a host. With a #P2P app, all they have to do is install it.
(DIR) Post #A0PrdUa4MwF33hJ4vg by danyspin97@fosstodon.org
2018-09-20T14:41:22Z
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@strypey Afaik, with E2E encryption you don't need to trust the host.
(DIR) Post #A0PrdVLDXdxJPvMjQ0 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2018-09-20T14:49:10Z
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@danyspin97 if you haven't compiled the apps from source yourself, you have to trust that the host who provided them used the same code that's on their repo. Also, even if they did (and the code is good) and the contents are unreadable by the host, what about metadata? Who you talked to can be just an sensitive as what you said to each other. With P2P apps, as long as the E2E security is sound, no third party has access to either your content *or* your metadata.
(DIR) Post #A0PrdVa6eHriA6Kccq by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2018-09-20T14:55:25Z
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@danyspin97 this is why I don't trust Signal. Why is Moxie so opposed to F-Droid (or even Debian) compiling #Signal clients from source rather than using his binaries? If he does all the compiling, it doesn't matter that both the client and server source code are on public repos, because we only have his word for it that this is the code he's actually compiling from. Every claimed virtue of Signal, including passing an audit, depends on us trusting that he is compiling from the audited code.