Post BA67DhjtkEqtOweRd2 by citrusui@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #BA52f4Vg7U06mZKzjM by eff@mastodon.social
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Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/
(DIR) Post #BA52yFa3BSyscRWm7U by AVincentInSpace@furry.engineer
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@eff i'm disappointed. i really thought the EFF of all people would've had creatives' backs on this
(DIR) Post #BA53gCVfxfd3pzRG7s by SalemsLot@mastodon.social
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@eff Making theft legal for useless finance clusters (aka billionaires) is a general purpose tool? I think its a very specific and narrow niche that only enables billionaires. This is a very mid shitty take.
(DIR) Post #BA54nlvglq97fdmQy0 by lilyyllyyllyly@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@eff i cant believe eff is defending this.
(DIR) Post #BA57M2IIdKLqB9p2SO by Grutjes@mstdn.social
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@eff 😮 Seriously, is the organization that should be protecting our digital rights, now defending the abuse of extreme right billionaires, who are stealing our human creativity to make us all redundant?Are you couped by MAGA?
(DIR) Post #BA5ADJ4rAFG3UH3zw8 by Big_Blue_Gnu@mastodon.social
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@eff The irony here is that this is the same EFF that has worked to liberalize copyright law, this lawsuit being no different. Unpopular as AI training may be, I am a bit surprised to see the pushback to the EFF's actions (which honestly looks like a coordinated, corporate-backed effort to shore up support for copyright maximalism), but I get why taking a principled stand is unpopular since it necessarily entails defending unpopular positions occasionally. Even Techdirt defends the practice.
(DIR) Post #BA5AJQd00IlQdux7Gy by antinomian@todon.nl
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@effExtremely Fucking Foolish
(DIR) Post #BA5BTrf4RttXKrSgVc by maijau@mastodon.social
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@eff I am increasingly feeling like D-Fens in the fast food restaurant asking „ Can anybody tell me what's wrong with this picture?“.Can anybody explain to me why hip-hop artists and other musicians have been sued into the ground for ten second samples instead of being lauded for creative transformative use?
(DIR) Post #BA5BWTmnfoKq9kK932 by Jesticulated@mastodon.social
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@eff Well wont be donating to EFF any longer
(DIR) Post #BA5C40WMzDUvEpcsZk by angiebaby@mas.to
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@eff It's so cool to watch every institution I've trusted bend the knee and kiss the ring of pedophile techbro fascists, one right after the other.Please consider the last donation that I sent to EFF to be the LAST donation that I send.Effectively Fucking Finished.
(DIR) Post #BA5Ccb9rHH0oiAagmu by fullywoolly@mastodon.social
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@eff I've been donating monthly since 2017. You just lost my support.https://supporters.eff.org/donate/recurring for anyone else that needs to cancel.
(DIR) Post #BA5CpqkmbZN8qRBGpE by mcc@mastodon.social
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@eff Hello! Fuck you.
(DIR) Post #BA5DPGwlD9mIDVfqNM by outfrost@mastodon.social
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@eff I didn't have "EFF being deeply corrupt in the stupidest way imaginable" on my bingo cardI hope that boot tastes good
(DIR) Post #BA5EMt5P3Mn1ac8vyq by avirr@sfba.social
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@eff What about “Purpose and character of the use, including whether the use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes”?
(DIR) Post #BA5ER9AVCZjUcsYja4 by Lawdog@mastodon.social
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@eff Unfollowing, removing from annual donation list
(DIR) Post #BA5FPjgyXJSRHGdhey by FinFangFoomed@mastodon.social
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@eff yeah, that's an unfollow for me. Eat farts and beat street.
(DIR) Post #BA5GZOiLUDVT48S28e by bnys@lasersword.club
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@eff no human = no intent = no transformation eff y'all done fucked up
(DIR) Post #BA5GuRBrTXvkpII1BY by kdwarn@social.coop
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@eff boooooooooooooo
(DIR) Post #BA5IkrckXaZLozQezQ by Spirit@cybernetic.monster
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@eff Bye Felicia.
(DIR) Post #BA5InJBj1rGftBxDyC by MissAemilia@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@eff This is exactly the kind of creation copyright exits to protect from. Fuck off.
(DIR) Post #BA5Ioj4gGlvASpKqCu by Bit_form@corteximplant.com
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@eff fuck 'tech progress', it's.progressed enough.
(DIR) Post #BA5IsaGexGVqJBmHYm by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@eff excuse me? That’s theft, not creativity.You just lost every reason to exist. Go disband.
(DIR) Post #BA5J9oJPzVJ2n1HZ8S by darren@c.im
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@eff Like #ACLU I dont always agree with #EFF. But your argument is extremely harmful to creators. As a loooong time donor and supporter, I am very disappointed in your tech bro advocacy here.
(DIR) Post #BA5JFi6dygYhHO7X2O by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@Big_Blue_Gnu @eff it has not even to do with copyright maximalism, “AI” is a deeply fascist technology and has a multitude of problems, on different axes, that, each alone, are already an absolute reason for it to need to be destroyed.
(DIR) Post #BA5JRHmFh4s1646Nw8 by Taco_lad@aus.social
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@eff regurgitating content in a statistically probable manner is not transformation. Transformation requires intent.Robut has no intent.There is case law on this already.Please unfuck yourselves.
(DIR) Post #BA5JtcfxaSoe1LffYu by foolishowl@social.coop
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@eff Burn in hell, you fascist backstabbers.
(DIR) Post #BA5KOtpZr3d2Cg5EFk by tmw@ioc.exchange
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@eff oh, AI is transformative alright. it's transforming earth into a hellscape even faster than it already was.who has access to everything they stole, anyway? if their stolen shit leaked, who would get in trouble? no one?
(DIR) Post #BA5KZW9sD2pryAdjF2 by bobkmertz@techhub.social
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@effWhatTheFuckI'm stunned. This is the last organization I expected to take a stance against individuals and placate to the authoritarians.
(DIR) Post #BA5KwrkQ6eqraXrqbI by moelassus@mastodon.social
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@eff This is a profoundly disappointing take by the EFF.
(DIR) Post #BA5LB39IVu2P0FGcue by gsuberland@chaos.social
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@eff bye
(DIR) Post #BA5M97BAesGusSmhqy by Cacotopos@aus.social
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@eff oh boy
(DIR) Post #BA5MvkGOeAubzlPx5M by brhfl@digipres.club
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@eff yooooo this sucksi mean, completely unsurprising from y’all at this point, but regardless. sucks. big sucks. sucks shit.
(DIR) Post #BA5P5igTZd3LtvV3tg by jbaert@mastodon.social
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@eff this really is a disappointing, "not donating again"-level of take
(DIR) Post #BA5Rrb2vTScU1LxSJU by ryanl@twit.social
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@eff Well, that is the end of me supporting your apparently traitorous org. Get the fuck out of here EFF with this take.
(DIR) Post #BA5TebsdGJ8ykd4vMu by ShadSterling@mastodon.social
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@eff Even if creating a generative model is transformative, selling the use of one as a for-profit service to undercut creative artists is preventing the kind of creation that copyright was intended to foster.But since the generation of statistically similar outputs ensures that the further-derived generated outputs are minimally transformative of the sources, it’s misleading to describe the model itself as transformative.These services should be required to license their sources.
(DIR) Post #BA5TzIj5feqbQZTv7Y by TotesManly@mastodon.social
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@eff I'm surprised you're bragging about your staff attorney's boneheaded comment. P.S. What are you patting yourself on the back for? Having a your staff attorney quoted in an article? I used to think EFF was cool but shameless self promotion is the opposite of cool. It's lame and gross.
(DIR) Post #BA5UKWLsCsDhlejxdg by Rhube@wandering.shop
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@eff 😫 It's really not.
(DIR) Post #BA5UdY2W9hsAVKlAIK by bunbury@famichiki.jp
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@eff No sane person loves transformative work that makes the internet unusable, boils the ocean, and makes hardware and electricity expensive
(DIR) Post #BA5WJlSojcvIFtktnc by virtualbri@mastodon.online
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@eff EFF thinks they are so galaxy brained in their own heads they espouse a truely stupid take on AI.
(DIR) Post #BA5WXjYmbsG0PBCtKS by sammypanda@aus.social
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@eff did the EFF change on this? 😳
(DIR) Post #BA5XUlcYahz3sl7aLY by ProcessParsnip@mastodon.ie
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@eff
(DIR) Post #BA5Xbvk1MVltIU1oci by pork_slam@mastodon.social
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@eff are you serious? You guys are compromised.
(DIR) Post #BA5ZCzAxehCCcMrXhQ by veviser@mastodon.social
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@eff Oh, that's disappointing.
(DIR) Post #BA5ZtIgtUOHPIyya8W by tkissing@mastodon.social
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@eff I fart in your general direction.
(DIR) Post #BA5e0S4bP5cKFQjNom by eroc1990@mastodon.parastor.net
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@effWhat kind of ass backwards take is this? Does training models on copyrighted materials bring any additional money to the creator of the copyrighted work used in said training? No. If there's no monetary benefit to the original creator of a work, it should not be used in training.I'm so disappointed in you all for backing this horrible take.
(DIR) Post #BA5e6tnlDtonz1va6K by thanius@mastodon.chuggybumba.com
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@eff Oops, no more donations from me
(DIR) Post #BA5f0iVMn0rPIKsBeK by SuperMoosie@mastodon.au
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@eff So which AI model has escaped it sandbox now and hacked your account?
(DIR) Post #BA5h268oazzonc6wng by kgMadee2@mathstodon.xyz
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@eff alright, who shat in your brain?
(DIR) Post #BA5h8dsC5twH9dSPGC by shammers@mastodon.coffee
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@eff what the fuck is this
(DIR) Post #BA5hNN34vg8NJmZUTw by f4grx@chaos.social
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@eff what the fuck, EFF, what did you smoke? This is awful.I hate this world.
(DIR) Post #BA5i0j9UgP4TAGL4Eq by blurple@mas.to
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@eff Disappointing. Does standing up for AI really align with your mission of defending privacy and free speech online?
(DIR) Post #BA5iVcXTJx6vdBHkyu by hannorein@mastodon.social
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@eff no
(DIR) Post #BA5igwdmvHHNA3diHw by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
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@Big_Blue_GnuThey are stealing whenever their scrapers cause a website to become unavailable to other visitors - either through being overloaded, or by requiring login, or by adding Anubis with high enough difficulty that mobile phones can't solve the challenge.AI is also destroying the incentives that allowed forums and Q&A sites to accumulate the knowledge that it is now scraping.@eff
(DIR) Post #BA5jCAKE5ty8a1NQa8 by ianto_jones@mastodon.social
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@eff a horrible opinion that screws creators. Unbelievable that you would not only support mass copyright infringement, but seemingly with enthusiasm. You've officially helped tip the scales in favor of billionaire robber barons and likely alienated a large percentage of your supporters.Are you counting on large donations from the supremely entitled, inhuman, hoarding scumbags?
(DIR) Post #BA5jWex7vphJMRLQXI by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
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@effIANAL but to me it's pretty clear that genAI output directly competes with the original works the models were trained on. How the hell is that fair use?
(DIR) Post #BA5jd8dWTssTA3GRn6 by COMPU73E@retro.pizza
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@eff did a LLM write this? fucks sake
(DIR) Post #BA5kW8RMuZJkTpntGy by Aurimas@androiddev.social
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@eff you've got to be kidding?
(DIR) Post #BA5mNpcND1Bvh97Smu by Tock@corteximplant.com
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@eff Saw this coming. EFF has been on Big Tech's side for every issue except surveillance capitalism and censorship.Well, this sucks. Thanks for siding with fascism, EFF. I'd suggest abandoning Open Source Software as a cause of yours as well as the Creative Commons, because if AI is going to have your backing, you can't support either of those. (You have lawyers, you should know why.)(Edit: this was me chiming in, nothing more. I'm muting this thread.)
(DIR) Post #BA5my2thJVzNIzUUyW by ninkosan@mas.to
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@eff
(DIR) Post #BA5nttKd2KGmQxfdoW by KimSJ@mastodon.social
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@eff oh dear!
(DIR) Post #BA5o5LyurEMiTVyqBM by kikebenlloch@mastodon.social
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@eff Fuck me. We really needed you on our side regarding this. Terrible, worst approach possible from the EFF.
(DIR) Post #BA5oEyF9yBUXkUAEFM by ciaranmak@mastodon.ie
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@eff Your CIA is showing
(DIR) Post #BA5oVy4dqzLY95LiBU by egonw@mastodon.social
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@eff can you elaborate what this means for "clean room" implementations? Just running it through an LLM would follow the same logic? (honest question; haven't seen rulings/opinions/news about this)
(DIR) Post #BA5osCwrEPUueHJT0K by fsinn@mas.to
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@eff Tell me you don’t understand anything about copyright in 5 lines or less.
(DIR) Post #BA5oyn2zvepsLTK8Dg by clare_hooley@mastodon.me.uk
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@eff you’re supposed to be an organisation that stands up for our digital rights. Our rights include not having work taken wholesale and regurgitated by for profit companies without proper licensing and proper attribution - in most cases actually even costing us money as these bots steal bandwidth meant for humans.
(DIR) Post #BA5qQgKObZ8DZHKDZ2 by hydrarch@mastodon.social
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@eff Hell fucking NO.
(DIR) Post #BA5qgzzpFLzRCXU50C by piratenpanda@norden.social
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@eff what's wrong with you?
(DIR) Post #BA5qphNBr9wa35Yqki by katiefenn@front-end.social
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@eff This ain’t it, chief.
(DIR) Post #BA5rEUIjaudckMIUhE by RotHorseKid@mastodon.social
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@eff Do kindly go and fuck yourself.
(DIR) Post #BA5rftxEKBXy7xJKCG by claudius@darmstadt.social
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@eff I have never been a *recurring* donator, I renewed annually whenever I had some money left. I do this since 2011.VERY much rethinking this for this end of the year.Your work is sorely needed, but AI certainly is not one of the things I think you should put my donations towards.
(DIR) Post #BA5rwa5pQCoFS3Hn9c by tanepiper@tane.codes
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@eff
(DIR) Post #BA5tLBL2hC93s0hFlw by knud@mastodon.social
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@eff Sorry, what? Definitely no.
(DIR) Post #BA5tZ8k78vATsG4zRY by ret@furry.engineer
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@eff fuck you
(DIR) Post #BA5ur5MmXCroZMHqmO by fabio@zirk.us
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@eff What the fuck. Good bye then. Best of luck with the fascists, I'm sure they're all very nice.
(DIR) Post #BA5vSh6nAni6L4k0cS by grob@mstdn.social
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@eff tell that to my employer when I transformatively use their IP to create a copyleft software that annihilates their whole business model."they're the same picture"
(DIR) Post #BA5wIfiRb2Hh4t8ZdI by Rycochet@furs.social
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@eff You know your take is good and you are on the right side of history when you are siding with corporate interests in a puff piece from the Koch funded Reason outlet, and in great company, with their long history of defending and platforming apartheid defenders, big tobacco, climate change deniers, big oil, holocaust deniers, covid deniers...
(DIR) Post #BA5wozlwYvpEY4BfJQ by bazkie@beige.party
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@eff wait wtf EFF? I thought you were on our side 😿
(DIR) Post #BA5yaMIeisY7ytdWbI by tnt@chaos.social
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@eff 🖕
(DIR) Post #BA61jP6jx7T19s4GSO by najakwa@hessen.social
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@eff cmon EFF, what corporate contributions are you defending with that conclusion? It is resoundingly false. Your position should be the individual creator not some corporate monolith scraping the globe for all known human knowledge with the goal of regurgitation without citation. It is the largest copytheft industry in history. The courts are wrong on this. You're wrong on this.
(DIR) Post #BA61qRlwRbUJRuhKD2 by datn@xoxo.zone
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@eff deeply disappointing
(DIR) Post #BA62H6XDVqtROvWPFg by MyIgel@chaos.social
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@eff what the fuck is wrong with you...Torpedoing everything good you do with such a shit take???...
(DIR) Post #BA63h6cVuwzR9JxfzU by prefec2@norden.social
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@eff I strongly disagree. And it seems many more disagree too. Fostering billionaires is not what liberalism is for.
(DIR) Post #BA64p7idoeEmpPDMiu by yora@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@eff Who bribed you, and how much did they pay?
(DIR) Post #BA65Xuhb3iRlUL5F8i by kevin@dice.camp
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@eff A few weeks full of disappointments. What a disaster.
(DIR) Post #BA65j6HiKs6cb2JN9E by marble@chaos.social
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@eff Machine learning provides skill to the wealthy while withholding wealth from the skilled.Isn’t copyright intended to do the opposite?
(DIR) Post #BA66FNStzj0x9Bw3tY by max@gruene.social
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@eff I am in no way a supporter of how copyright laws are used at times especially to attack remixes but the LLM-case seems extremely clear: Fair use clearly limits commercial usage, especially one where you directly compete with the original work.WTF are you going on about saying running a business like OpenAI under fair use is allowed?!? If they gave away the model for free then sure, this could be argued, but they are literally making money off of stolen works.
(DIR) Post #BA66cWGnQOyz7CJ9km by KatS@chaosfem.tw
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@eff No, that's bullshit. When did the EFF switch sides and start wielding specious arguments for the bad guys?This isn't an argument for free speech. This is a defense of drowning out speech that comes from people.
(DIR) Post #BA670quILeba4ONzgO by stux@mstdn.social
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@eff What the fuck is wrong with you
(DIR) Post #BA67DhjtkEqtOweRd2 by citrusui@mastodon.social
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@eff You have lost all credibility and are out of touch with the general populace.
(DIR) Post #BA67IX8MbR5BxPOhm4 by BlueDot@left-bank.net
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@eff Even granting the bizarre claim that training a large language model on entire works isn't a copyright violation, how can you pretend not to see the bigger picture?I ask this as a long-time EFF contributor who's suddenly reconsidering.
(DIR) Post #BA67nMqOuSn71NhMEC by NadiaPurge@musician.social
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@eff so how the f does that square with privacy and free speech????Stealing is a violation of privacy, stealing our words is a violation of free speech. No one is being compensated. Rare books are being destroyed. In some cases original authors are being denied the rights to their own work because an AI stole it from them.You can not say this is not stealing.Absolutely you have violated your own purpose in existing.#EFF
(DIR) Post #BA69aLdCJ9ndP3RTTE by letterror@typo.social
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@eff Sorry EFF but that is a terrible move. Maybe one day you will reflect and discover why. But until then hell no.
(DIR) Post #BA69j5nuWSPqvEcgPw by DamonWakes@mastodon.sdf.org
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@eff Looks like the EFF just became one of those organisations I actively avoid donating to.
(DIR) Post #BA69nxB21cl9c6ktkG by StarkRG@myside-yourside.net
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@eff They aren't "general purpose tools," this *absolutely* isn't anything remotely like the creation that copyright is designed to foster, and it definitely isn't a transformative work. I get that she's a lawyer by trade and training, and therefore lacks the background to understand what "AI" is, so I have to wonder who she's been working with to have developed such an enormously skewed idea of what this technology actually is and how it's created.
(DIR) Post #BA6Ax5kdcDaOlbKbVQ by Bredroll@mas.to
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@eff well... fuck
(DIR) Post #BA6B5j65DDcz72Tmi0 by makeratschool@kanoa.de
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@eff I'd be interested to know what you, @pluralistic, think about it?
(DIR) Post #BA6BhPARl582J2UFpQ by byteborg@chaos.social
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@eff this is not the EFF I have known and loved. Wtf has gone wrong?
(DIR) Post #BA6COpzZttZHxB76Gm by nate@ouo.sh
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@eff Lot of folks who clearly didn't read the article are crashing out over this post.
(DIR) Post #BA6DtzvN7gCZglZIci by lumi@snug.moe
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@eff the fuck, effgo against fashtech, don't embrace it
(DIR) Post #BA6HJecfFDh70wk9tQ by quincy@chaos.social
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@eff "DOJ Says Barring AI Training on Copyrighted Material Could 'Severely Hamper' Tech Progress"I say: fuck this kind of "tech progress".
(DIR) Post #BA6HTESbN0aclkbVg0 by bigjsl@aus.social
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@eff interesting point of view. Not one I’m happy with but interesting and informative.
(DIR) Post #BA6HaFWXoXDG5wnIiO by jimbob@aus.social
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@eff are you fucking high?
(DIR) Post #BA6IHBFvYfdPJHUcOO by FurryBeta@shark.community
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@eff There goes the donation I was going to make
(DIR) Post #BA6J6r2ZxmiZfhtCPg by Aprazeth@mstdn.social
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@stux @eff I have been a longtime supporter of the EFF, and hope to remain so That said, after this statement of theirs, I have no reason to continue to do soI fully understand the need to make sure that the right of "transformative use" is maintained.These LLM's are not transformative. Time and again it has been shown that copyrighted works are able to be dispensed *verbatim and in full*These companies do not credit source, and (try to) claim copyright on these materials themselves
(DIR) Post #BA6JPi8LIsvZY6ZoC8 by strule@bolha.one
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@eff :pernalongaNo:
(DIR) Post #BA6JrC06Mmp3zzpHvM by cmsdengl@mas.to
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@eff What a betrayal of content creators. The EFF might as well remove all its humans and function as an AI bot.
(DIR) Post #BA6KqftrocrKOYE8Rc by piyuv@techhub.social
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@stux @eff @pluralistic explains the reasoning here: https://pluralistic.net/2025/12/05/pop-that-bubble/It’s not a crazy take once you read it
(DIR) Post #BA6NRUoeBmHGdnTG88 by stacey_campbell@aus.social
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@eff Yeah, nah."It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for 'em."
(DIR) Post #BA6NuPAwEsspXrgMfQ by yerdua@xoxo.zone
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@eff why the fuck are you siding with fascists?
(DIR) Post #BA6OlLp9Qj9mUzjp0C by OtterMatic@woof.group
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@eff well this is the heel turn of the decade, so disappointed to see you siding with the fash
(DIR) Post #BA6Q3dvexGCfoj4JGa by geeksam@ruby.social
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@eff have you lost your fucking minds
(DIR) Post #BA6ToJOTQDKnbKUVN2 by brennan@social.lol
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@eff what the fuck?
(DIR) Post #BA6UkbYM40c8iWuQWO by Crell@phpc.social
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@eff A technology only available to ultra-wealthy corporations that is built through copyright infringement is A-OK, but normal people can't have a a 4 second clip of Disney in the background of a video without getting sued.Is that really what you're saying? I just want to be clear before I cancel my 25-year membership.
(DIR) Post #BA6VF2YyCpKRAsi3xg by davewoodx@mastodon.social
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@eff mass theft isn't a good look.On top of that, why does Reason try to access my camera when I visit the page?#Privacy
(DIR) Post #BA6VbsbPPCdqwUk0Lw by lingoslinger@mastodon.social
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@eff interested to see what @pluralistic has to say about this…
(DIR) Post #BA6WZdsBIYVKdQ5DNY by log@mastodon.sdf.org
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@eff Scale matters. Intent matters. A world-eating model, that benefits from every sentence ever written, cannot morally be locked up behind a paywall for the sole benefit of the few.
(DIR) Post #BA6WfyduzNbomzQsD2 by vlrny@disabled.social
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Oh @eff no.
(DIR) Post #BA6WmOhD2Mj5KS27ay by heafnerj@mstdn.social
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@eff Okay so you're advocating piracy. I don't feel conflicted about it now. Can't have it both ways.
(DIR) Post #BA6WtLMto7ZZ2GqUHA by KFears@mstdn.games
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@eff Wow, the irony is palpable in this one. This is the most "technically correct but in unintended way" take we've seen in a month.Yes, this is *precisely* the kind of "creation" copyright is *designed to foster*. Corporation-centered, worker-oppressing framework to extract profit from others' labor and handwave away any complaints through legalese bullshit and arguing for fake moral superiority, when the reality is that multi-billion companies use copyright as a tool for oppression. genAI is just another iteration of "laws for thee but not for me", alongside many other oppressive things.Shame on you.
(DIR) Post #BA6X15kDmRR4tbRtGi by Extelec@mstdn.social
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@eff If we have to pay, they have to pay. No special cases. That is the way copyright works.
(DIR) Post #BA6X7AyRFboaqs04Gm by theogrin@chaosfem.tw
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@eff Hey, uh...So if I set up a pantograph and use it to copy the contents of an entire book by tracing over the pages, and the pantograph is poorly-designed so it results in lots of errors, but the book is slightly larger and therefore distinguishable from the original by size alone, is that a transformative work? Especially if I sell it as an alternative to the original?I'm just wondering where the limits apply.
(DIR) Post #BA6ZcyK21bIQmvOCQq by jmcrookston@mastodon.social
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@eff This is a horrible take and I've just lost insurmountable amounts of respect for your organization
(DIR) Post #BA6cG4kaG4uPvXaBiS by hub@cosocial.ca
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@eff who donated and how much for your to take that position?
(DIR) Post #BA6hXU1S3AiD06amiO by deborahh@cosocial.ca
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@eff I am horrified. Seriously, EFF? WTF? #AItheft #copyright #AI_slop
(DIR) Post #BA6jIKBMYMBS2x7z1M by OrionKidder@mas.to
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@eff Yeah, that's not a bad legal decision. The threshold for copyright violation is deliberately set high, meaning that if you do something innovative with someone else's copyrighted material, you're *meant* to free to do that. That's by design.
(DIR) Post #BA6k9lMEFMOzg2gwPw by ahimsa_pdx@disabled.social
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@eff I saw this last night and I'm still feeling bad about it. This is really a horrible take, @eff
(DIR) Post #BA6l5GOHXTIyQm4Q40 by AngelaScholder@mastodon.energy
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@eff Have you gone insane at the EFF?As this basically is invalidating all your credibility!
(DIR) Post #BA6oX2Ub6ZeTIUxc1Y by AngelaScholder@mastodon.energy
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@eff Well, I guess "Bye, EFF!"
(DIR) Post #BA6q9a4Ep4hUO0ZaQy by technically_good@techhub.social
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@eff 🤔
(DIR) Post #BA73QrotN5sPlty5CK by autonomousapps@mstdn.social
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@eff uhhh fuck off?
(DIR) Post #BA7MSWnKPbXWGsk4Uy by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
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@eff > Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told ReasonPeople are very upset about this. But it's not a simple 'pro-AI' vs. 'anti-AI' question. It's a complex legal one about where the boundary lines between fair use and copyright violation ought to lie. One can be vehemently opposed to #MOLE Trainers (as I am), without necessarily wanting the copyright monopoly strengthened in the way Big Content is pushing for here.(1/?)#AI
(DIR) Post #BA7T44RerXgh4ltJ0y by peteriskrisjanis@toot.lv
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@eff lawyers gonna tell you how they see it. Doesn't make it right or wrong.I do not think fair use applies here. This also doesn't touch native rights at all. One corner of law in very narrow interpretation might be correct, it wider context it is still wrong.This is usually where new laws get written tho.
(DIR) Post #BA7T6UotlxPBSHuz44 by a40yostudent@iosdev.space
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@eff how to loose everything in one single statement.
(DIR) Post #BA7cwzHeeYDOaCTOme by jadedtwin@corteximplant.com
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@eff thanks for spitting in artists faces....
(DIR) Post #BA7fq0SkAguu4g1TUm by donaldball@triangletoot.party
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@eff How about those other three factors of fair use?
(DIR) Post #BA7mRCHFo68V9llWpE by lordsplodge@brettspiel.space
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@eff Ok, so I’ll download copyright material to train my own actual intelligence? That’s fine right and fair use? Nobody will sue me for breach of copyright, right? RIGHT?My goddess give your head a wobble. Supporting mass theft of people’s work to feed to the Great Fascist Hallucination Machine? That’s probably the most stupid thing I’ve heard. To hear it from the EFF? Beyond stupid.
(DIR) Post #BA7pA9PbVTsRD3EbdQ by crumbleneedy@aus.social
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@eff nope it's theft
(DIR) Post #BA7rDVeVTRSkxow06S by Enalys@mastodon.zergy.net
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@effWow, the libertarians at EFF bootlicking the techno-fachists.Not surprised at all.
(DIR) Post #BA7sYkPNuEwUlSYIYi by worik@mastodon.social
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@eff I just read the article I agree
(DIR) Post #BA7v0POnoOZhcbb6cC by Equinox@squawk.social
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@eff Ah. Okay. *writes down EFF on my company shitlist*
(DIR) Post #BA7w21VDjHAG2cvvBQ by GreatBigTable@mastodon.social
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Oof. Not the take I would have expected from you.The fact that a well crafted prompt can pull near identical data from the training source shows this is not the case.Touch grass, @eff, I think you have spent too much time online.
(DIR) Post #BA8EFwMxPT0fLkr0sK by troed@swecyb.com
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@eff Thank you. We do not want to live in a world where a student cannot learn from a textbook without the author of the book claiming copyright infringement.
(DIR) Post #BA8kKVqIeypt3lnqC0 by divyaranjan@mathstodon.xyz
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@eff It's not 'transformative' when these techbros just decide to throw copyright of the window now when it suits them, while for decades they used the same copyright to jail users and do all sorts of harm. This is not 'transformative' it's called being deliberately oppressive and using Law and Technology to propagate oppression. I am also disappointed in EFF. Looks like we need to rebuild our organizations, none of them seem to protect us, the humanity, the earth and our public commons.
(DIR) Post #BAAxDAHw5T8Xu5TZFg by rechelon@mastodon.social
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@eff This is the correct line. Fuck anyone defending IP for any reason.
(DIR) Post #BABEqwRag4kflpXpFA by jbrownesq@mastodon.social
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@eff this.... is an insane, tone deaf, basically tech illiterate take on "transformative use" and im utterly shocked to see EFF publish this. Ive been funding EFF for years... and this is the first time I've had STRONG doubts about my support.This should be reviewed, reconsidered.
(DIR) Post #BAXBFQfyOQi5gsFqDY by FeralRobots@mastodon.social
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@eff showing your defense-industrial complex roots again, I see.
(DIR) Post #BAXCFQaCq48PM97VuS by AnarchoNinaWrites@jorts.horse
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@eff Just so as in you know - collaborators get the wall too. Maybe less with helping nazi billionaires install the fascism machine.
(DIR) Post #BAXFg0EdCwCbJwOO7k by fedithom@social.saarland
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@eff fuck off
(DIR) Post #BAXVgfA0e8T1W0ZE0W by lin11c@toad.social
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@eff Not if they injest our creations and then bastardize them to charge us to access their "service" while making billions for themselves. Music and art are an especially gray area. This is billion dollar corporations stealing from creators.