Post B9y0jINL2XPpdhNqFs by jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyz
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 (DIR) Post #B9xzQXHXIIhcPlA0Z6 by bugaevc@floss.social
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       @jonmsterling @bodil you should know that this is not endorsed or approved by the upstream Adwaita/GTK. We recommend that you use the toolkit's own API, instead of building a reactive-style layer on top of it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B9y0jINL2XPpdhNqFs by jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyz
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       @bugaevc @bodil Thanks for the heads up!
       
 (DIR) Post #BA0L7asQlv6MGFcqOW by bugaevc@floss.social
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       @scaroo @jonmsterling @bodil it's not about Vala or JS vs Swift; the programming languages are all fine. Swift is actually a pretty nice language! What's not a good idea is building reactive-style wrappers around GTK or Adwaita, in any language, including relm and "Adwaita for Swift".cc @aliceIf you're asking what languages GNOME upstream uses, GNOME core is mainly written in C, JS, Vala, Rust, Python, C++. But all languages are welcome.
       
 (DIR) Post #BA0LVHOQrcxYmbt85I by jonmsterling@mathstodon.xyz
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       @bugaevc @scaroo @bodil @alice Yeah, I can imagine the abstraction being leaky and then, if you don’t understand how the base system works, you are screwed.
       
 (DIR) Post #BA0QsB9WjOxnrNefOy by bugaevc@floss.social
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       @alice @scaroo @bodil @jonmsterling I don't universally consider reactive frameworks a no-no; they're famously successful, and SwiftUI seems okay. I don't believe it's a good idea to put one on top of GTK though. Someone else might think it's a good idea and experiment with that, but yeah, don't expect the GTK-side upstream to support you if you do.
       
 (DIR) Post #BA0QsaCZbDFrY4Gx7Y by bugaevc@floss.social
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       @alice @scaroo @bodil @jonmsterling And yeah, as Alice says it's especially bad if such a project frames itself as basically Adwaita in Swift, while in reality not only being a reactive bolt-on but also using what seems like an entirely different SwiftUI-ish naming scheme.