Post B9TPhlt5Jntlavr1M0 by otyugh@pouet.chapril.org
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(DIR) Post #B9TN5y5HK6oUVeP6ZM by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@hbons/117099208164126991Disgusting. Pausing my volunteer tablet driver contributions and any future Linux-related work until The Linux Foundation grows a bit of ethics. If they don’t change, I’ll look elsewhere.➡️ Edit: Thanks to all your comments and feedback, I now see I'm reacting against The Linux Foundation’s misbehavior, not the open-source Linux community and ecosystem itself. They’re separate entities; I needed that reminder. My frustration is with that corp, not the code. I'll reconsider my pause.RT: https://mastodon.social/users/hbons/statuses/117099208164126991
(DIR) Post #B9TNLEmvV5pAey6JwO by adamsdesk@fosstodon.org
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@davidrevoy Good for you. I've had concerns for awhile about how they approach AI and not respecting our privacy. Website has quite a few trackers.
(DIR) Post #B9TNg4gCHM7pOEtBpI by mousey@mastodon.seattlematrix.org
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@davidrevoy This looks like it was built by a community that has absolutely stopped learning.
(DIR) Post #B9TNo4Ph9Vdisgz0y0 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@csolisr That's a question for later. I just know that when I left Windows Vista and adopted Linux, no professional artist was using it. Whatever I decide next, I'm not afraid to pioneer a little bit.
(DIR) Post #B9TNzSdFRryRBAko6q by jackemled@furry.engineer
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@davidrevoy I'm learning how to use NetBSD on an extra laptop I have. It's nice, but not as modern as I like. I really hope I don't have to switch, but I will if I have to.
(DIR) Post #B9TO257JKkHL7K46SW by basxto@chaos.social
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@davidrevoy It’s the year of the BSDesktop
(DIR) Post #B9TOHUUNHdAi9PCVUm by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@datarama Right. That's is also a good point. Thank you for reminding me this.
(DIR) Post #B9TOuN70e03WZ7oOJ6 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@mohs Understood. I put two nights before writing this, so I think I'm weighting correctly my words about my feelings. I understand that they don't own the Linux code, that it is possible to fork, but they really disgust me as a flagship foundation right now.My motivation is just finding fun when I look at other OS. Maybe I just need a time to digest? Holidays ? 😅 Thank you for your feedback!
(DIR) Post #B9TPKR6sP29GUgB6SO by Stem@framapiaf.org
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@davidrevoy The problem is that there's no real "elsewhere", linux being the only remotely mature alternative to proprietary systems and a lesser evil compared to them.
(DIR) Post #B9TPQ1R2m1rqbQH5vc by emmetoneill@mas.to
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@davidrevoy Uhg, gross... I think what's most disappointing to me about *all* of this stuff is having spent so many years believing that FOSS was at least partially grounded in an ideology and a philosophy, and not just about being cheap and, well... sloppy.It's difficult not to burn out, to be honest. I have to remind myself that a lot of people really do care, and want to do what is right.
(DIR) Post #B9TPeyo8pC9OnVD888 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@Stem Maybe my main problem is just with the "Linux Foundation" ethic itself, and I need to start thinking about it totally appart from the "Linux GPL community code repository". But it's hard.
(DIR) Post #B9TPhlt5Jntlavr1M0 by otyugh@pouet.chapril.org
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@davidrevoy @csolisr Golly ho golly, I love you 20% more already ! Kinda felt like most "libre advocates" were a let down when it came to AI.
(DIR) Post #B9TPqVrkFusEVjObVw by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@Varpie Maybe that's what I need to accept and totally dissociate what does the Linux Foundation VS the Linux GPL kernel (community) code
(DIR) Post #B9TQ1HBJBzqI9Yg96u by yoasif@mastodon.social
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@davidrevoy Just so everyone knows, the same applies to #wikipedia and the #wikimedia foundation: https://www.quippd.com/writing/2026/08/04/wikipedia-turned-on-its-volunteers-now-its-coming-for-its-workers.htmlYes, they are also union busting.
(DIR) Post #B9TQ2cCwVDSzef57gG by patrick@retro.social
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@davidrevoy Linux Foundation started out as vehicle to pay Linus and others, but that's about as close to Linux as they get. Otherwise it's a trade organization (not a charity) to pool resources like that, and so these days they're rather AI heavy.So, LiFo deserves all the contempt you (and I and all others) can afford, but I wouldn't make _that_ the reason to stop any involvement with Linux.
(DIR) Post #B9TQ2cSBaXeyPwDIRM by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@patrick I understand better. Thank you for helping me to see this.
(DIR) Post #B9TQWsxamXT6IbKrqa by AlexanderMars@mastodon.social
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@davidrevoy @datarama seriously, ignore the linux foundation, it's everything bad about corporate foss. Big corps lording over and coopting community work, when they're not too busy self dealing. Anyone thinking BSD is some green pasture of freedom, good effing luck. The hardware support alone would turn my daily driver into a paperweight. I love that BSD exists, but it need a community that's a bit more than server racks and zfs pools. Linux is only just growing out of that mindset.
(DIR) Post #B9TQjQ71Lhgqaqiruy by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@AlexanderMars @datarama Yes, I think the advice of ignoring the Linux Foundation is one I'll keep in mind. Thank you!
(DIR) Post #B9TR95AvoZA9BhmxOq by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@ToonLink 😆
(DIR) Post #B9TRbz0bovgGSck16O by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@mohs No problem, and thank you for the feedback. as you saw, I just edited my post. I had a misunderstanding about how big was the role of the Linux Foundation, and this post helped me to find a bit more clarity and discernment between The Linux Foundation’s misbehavior, and on another side remember the open-source Linux community and ecosystem itself.I'll learn to just ignore the Linux Foundation, and see them as what they are: the toxic bank that manage external company funding.
(DIR) Post #B9TRffwGfFHATTTHd2 by basxto@chaos.social
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@davidrevoy Remix of "This is fine" (https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/viewer/misc__2025-07-01_This-is-fine_by-David-Revoy.html) by David Revoy − CC-BY 4.0
(DIR) Post #B9TRiqx8Ag1JVCOFpA by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@basxto 🤣 Accurate
(DIR) Post #B9TS2ev8cG59ycu0Cu by dougmerritt@mathstodon.xyz
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@davidrevoy It's important to know that they do not own Linux in any sense. They are licensed to deal with trademark issues, essentially because Linus is intensely uninterested, so *someone* has to do that.They do not own nor control the Linux kernel source code, nor that of the many Linux distributions.They *do* host and legally coordinate the Linux kernel effort, but if they disappeared, the kernel people would simply find another way.> possible to forkThere's not even anything to fork that I'm aware of.I've been using Linux since version 0.9, but I haven't been paying attention enough to know what on Earth they do with $300 million. I hope it's largely worthwhile, but I dunno.@Varpie
(DIR) Post #B9TSAbkYHxXwSYk0eW by zzt@mas.to
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@davidrevoy @ozzelot the linux foundation receiving a fuckton of money from multiple AI corporations (including Palantir) and paying Torvalds a $1.5 million/year paycheck is almost certainly the reason why Torvalds instituted an AI policy in the kernel that requires maintainers to use LLMs for review and encourages slop in the kernel. he evoked a right-wing conspiracy theory while doing it.a lot of people have told you the Linux Foundation isn’t Linux, that they don’t matter, that you should keep contributing. that doesn’t make any sense if you think about it, does it. this is capitalism, and the person at the head of a project receiving large amounts of money certainly affects everyone who’s part of that project.the Linux Foundation posting slop is a symptom of a sickness, but keep your eye on what matters. the kernel is rapidly becoming slop and it’s run by someone who very loudly dislikes you and me and everyone else who doesn’t like LLMs. you can do better with your time.
(DIR) Post #B9TT9KtFaSbLpolcQK by AlexanderMars@mastodon.social
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@davidrevoy @datarama sorta related, I think more devs need to release more code as CC-NC, with a notice that commercial licences are available.
(DIR) Post #B9TThg0dZaWbBFb516 by simultsop@mastodon.social
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@davidrevoy however, this is another level, wondering what would the choice be other than linux for OSS
(DIR) Post #B9TToxqfe57gXEPVEe by thomy2000@fosstodon.org
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@davidrevoy We need more people like you in this world!
(DIR) Post #B9TXPNReFussCylElU by iknowpony@sakurajima.moe
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@davidrevoy The Linux Foundation is not a monolithic thing. It consists of many corporations, which, in turn, consist of many more humans.And it does many things besides Linux, some of which are real head scratches (at least for me).This is quite possibly, a random Joe or a random boss doing a thing without much thought. Or with thought of investors, neglecting which turn out bad for Ford, IIRC.And over... this, the whole foundation seem rotten; lead by worst example, all in the world is bad (it isn't bad, if we include a bit more than the worst).That is not to say that Linux Foundation is good; it is corporate alliance, to do its things, some of which related to Linux.Now, with this more detailed picture, ask yourself... is it worth to assign the mega-blame... to a project worth billions (Linux kernel), given for free to all?And, what this does actually accomplish? Do you think that generative AI actually uses tablets on Linux? Or maybe actual artists are using tablets? And Linux gives more freedom from corporate control, to 'em?Your time is yours. And your decisions, are too. And you do lots of amazing, evocative, libre arts (& more). Just... here's a bit of food for thought, okay?
(DIR) Post #B9TXmtMPlD11qxWe1o by jik@federate.social
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@davidrevoy I mean, if your concern is the use of generative AI in Linux, then from what I've been reading, The Linux Foundation is the least of your problems; a much bigger problem is Linus Torvalds.But, as others have pointed out, it's not clear there's anywhere better to go instead of Linux. 🤷Ref: https://www.startpage.com/do/search?q=linus+generative+ai+linux
(DIR) Post #B9Ti2LIl9ph6Ocp292 by elgregor@librem.one
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@davidrevoy First of all, you need to contact The Linux Foundation, otherwise they will not realise you are upset at them.Second, Linux and TLF are two different things and likely only the former cares about your tablet driver contributions unless the manufacturer of those tablets is a TLF member.Third, I suspect this is a result of one employee's decision because likely TLF does not have any internal AI use guidelines. That brings us back to the first point. Complain to them.
(DIR) Post #B9Uc4JoBH7Q7mG2QC0 by njsg@mementomori.social
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@davidrevoy @ToonLink that's what tops the cake, one may assume the Linux Foundation kinda wants to target the tech world and tech-inclined people, and they can't even get floppies right!?
(DIR) Post #B9UvCEhO3RRVNNLiD2 by lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br
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I share your painhere's a suggestion: next time, wait a few days for the end of the promo and only then call out their slopwork, so as to not give the sloppy promo a boostCc: @hbons@mastodon.social
(DIR) Post #B9V6Zmty9bQVbvfR0i by GarretSidzaka@mastodon.social
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@davidrevoy In other news, i found out you are not only just an amazing comic artist 😉
(DIR) Post #B9VGMDCOaGEuepS2ds by odysseywestra@linuxrocks.online
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@davidrevoy yeah this is pure lazyness on their end. Any of us would be more than happy todo any graphics for them.My stance on AI is fine for using it as a tool, but not a crutch. Using purely GenAI for published artwork is a Crutch.So yeah, I understand and agree where you are coming from.
(DIR) Post #B9VKO41i3bAmbcakAy by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@odysseywestra Thank you!
(DIR) Post #B9XcG4H7R678YE3X1s by newt@stereophonic.space
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@mangeurdenuage @davidrevoy they don't even fund Linux, for that matter. Linux LTS branch maintenance was almost shut down due to the lack of funding.
(DIR) Post #B9ZMLHsr1lFwFogFqy by rodlie@mastodon.social
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@davidrevoy It's not just the kernel, it also ASWF (OpenColorIO, OpenImageIO, OpenEXR, OpenFX etc). Even if you "escape" Linux you won't get far. Your tools still depends on libraries maintained by ASWF/Linux Foundation.
(DIR) Post #B9yLFcuqClhth5kSJs by simon_brooke@mastodon.scot
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@strypey @emmetoneill @davidrevoy Why V2 and not V3? Laziness; and I haven't really understood the difference between V2 and V3 and don't trust lawyers. Why GPL and not (for example) BSD or Apache? Because if you want to use my #GiftEconomy work you can bloody well share your work in the gift economy too.
(DIR) Post #B9yLFdOcQ3WhBRgEjY by sleepfreeparent@kolektiva.social
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@simon_brooke the default copyright blurb for V3 includes the text "either version 3 of the licence, or (at your option) any later version." So if you don't change that clause, you also have to trust lawyers of the future employed by whoever may take over FSF
(DIR) Post #B9yLFdeDU40Fxoyh2u by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@simon_brooke @sleepfreeparent the current one is already slippy enough, carefully says just enough to support RMS’ propaganda while carefully not saying anything to specific details some people consider untrue (in order to not publicly lie)