Post B95sERErIWdFGvuvXE by claudius@darmstadt.social
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 (DIR) Post #B94YM4pV325ttDge6C by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai
       
 (DIR) Post #B94YXE62vyuTodk7KC by arabine@piaille.fr
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       @davidrevoy Qui nous dit que tu n'es pas carrément une IA.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94YZiujKIxLyQdlho by teotwaki@mastodon.online
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       @davidrevoy I think the “dang” comment is actually crediting you as the source material.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94YzyTk50hJmAXCfA by artair@ohbear.wtf
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       @davidrevoy Now for the big question: how many of these questions are sincere, and how many come from AI troll-bots? Because Silicon Valley has a vested interest in making sure nobody can distinguish slop from reality.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94Z2X1CdJLNThP9km by mjd@mathstodon.xyz
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       @davidrevoy Wow, this is horrible.  I'm so sorry.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94Z6ONSha9tpweo88 by adamrice@c.im
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       @davidrevoy It’s a photoshop I can tell from the pixels
       
 (DIR) Post #B94ZD0GYkIFh5Ga5IG by COMPU73E@retro.pizza
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       @davidrevoy reading this makes me so mad, my hate for generative AI burns with the fire of a thousand suns 😡
       
 (DIR) Post #B94ZF74MQFKelMsgy0 by bbbhltz@framapiaf.org
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       @davidrevoy holy moly, that's f-ing crazy
       
 (DIR) Post #B94ZIllPZu3PqKlGRk by desatyr@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy OMG"So much inconsistencies...."Don' t be sad, we all know You for many years (15 - 20) and appreciate your artwork.A pity that AI is trained with artists stuff and now people cannot tell anymore what is real art.😟
       
 (DIR) Post #B94ZU2TVmo4MrElL5k by synlogic4242@vivaldi.net
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       @davidrevoy there are lots of troll bots and briganding minors active on web now, and their behavior can be identical. plus lots of dumb or intoxicated folks. will explain much of that "pile on of false accusations" effect. its bitten me too. I like Mastodon in part cuz happens here less
       
 (DIR) Post #B94ZeyE1vWXcrYjY5g by faoluin@chitter.xyz
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       @davidrevoy If these comments are mostly coming from Meta's platforms, it's probably just worth ignoring them altogether. They are obviously having a negative influence on you. And those platforms are full of bots and terrible people anyway. Just post and close the tab.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94ZlbZWY8wYdEx19c by synlogic4242@vivaldi.net
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       @davidrevoy this is part of why I am both enraged by and nauseated by this AI hype fad. because it ruins society like this
       
 (DIR) Post #B94Zqf2372jwoLhiZU by number6@fosstodon.org
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       @davidrevoy They're all looking at technical details. Wrong approach. Human artists vary a lot in how they depict fine details.The way I can tell that your art isn't AI is how closely the mood of the characters matches the dialog. AI can't seem to really understand that people look at people, and isn't very good at subtle emotions displayed through facial expressions and body language.Of course, in another year that could change ...
       
 (DIR) Post #B94aFYl5ZgaiardyUq by buwel@social.tchncs.de
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       @davidrevoy 😧
       
 (DIR) Post #B94aau51Urdkno94kK by TheConstructor@social.tchncs.de
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       @davidrevoy I guess people are no longer used to artists being good at creating digital art. It's lots of less polished stuff and lots of slop 😕
       
 (DIR) Post #B94asqfIvpOPQLfkgK by elle@weathered-steel.social
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       @davidrevoy sending all the love 💜 your work is awesome, and I thoroughly enjoy the fact that you use FOSS to create it.stay up, internet stranger 💪 🖤 ✊
       
 (DIR) Post #B94b69cfl8UJz5mncO by LonM@vivaldi.net
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       @davidrevoy I appreciate the art that you paint, the effort you put in, and am very glad you are sharing them here
       
 (DIR) Post #B94b8BZ9VOXUaf6lcm by mezzodrinker@social.mezzo.moe
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       @davidrevoy :neocat_hug_blob_sad:
       
 (DIR) Post #B94bHQkePpCgIFtXbE by rick@a.n0id.space
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       @mezzodrinker @davidrevoy :blobcatsadreach:
       
 (DIR) Post #B94bVGTdPdOuTwX4CG by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @arabine Google? 🤣
       
 (DIR) Post #B94bZJQSOIzymlyZai by M@nerdculture.de
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       @davidrevoy I just hope this is NOT your Fediverse Bubble?
       
 (DIR) Post #B94bdutN2AT88yhBj6 by raven@fedi.raventhemaker.com
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       @davidrevoy These comments hurt my soul. And not just the "this is AI" but how they must go over the images with a magnifier looking for the tiniest details to criticize.  When it doesn't match their expectation of "good art" then it must be AI.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94bhNy5O0zRBrYUQS by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @gaditb Very interesting to read writers also affected. Thank you for sharing.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94bxAGK70glJdbrdI by Mudlark@bark.lgbt
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       @davidrevoy I’m sorry you’re getting these comments. Your art is so full of heart I’ve never really thought to compare it to aigen. I don’t see how people see any similarities to be honest.I love your art, the way you draw fantasy worlds and characters is a big inspiration to me. And it’s so cool to see that you do it all with Krita, it makes me want to give it a go and finally make that switch.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94c4zaHhFpmVzg9a4 by krono@toot.berlin
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       @davidrevoy Bleak, actually.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94cDn1lkeeIB3jIaO by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @faoluin Yes, that's what I'm trying to do. Thank you. But on bad evenings, you know... It's tempting to allow some of my self-destructive thoughts to be confirmed by these, and reading them all became hypnotising. I'll try to develop a thicker skin. Maybe that's just the negative side of attracting a larger audience for my work.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94cGh4ULvmEZcO0oa by realtegan@wandering.shop
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       @davidrevoy @gaditb It's happening to lots of writers. Some forums are nothing but people claiming they put writing through an "AI detector" and the writing is obviously AI. It's soul-crushing, as you well know.The other major group of people getting hit by this, ironically, are computer programmers. People who actually know how to code are being told their code is AI generated even when it's absolutely obvious it's not.Anyone who creates is damaged by AI - even if they don't use it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94cKFM9L4clm6LDt2 by farlukar@mas.to
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       @davidrevoy If I had to guess, those are all “it looks like the ai art I've been prompting myself”  :ablobsigh:
       
 (DIR) Post #B94cNPRwGhiNwoYc7c by nyandzette@piaille.fr
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       @davidrevoy J'espère que tu reçois aussi des tonnes de messages positifs qui apprécient tes dessins à leur juste valeur. Je saurais même plus dire depuis combien de temps je te suis ! Je me souvient qu'il y a plus de 10(?) ans, je m'étais mise à Krita parce que c'est ce que tu utilisais et j'avais avidement téléchargé plein de ressources que tu proposais ! Que ce soit tes dessins eux-même ou tes outils de création, tout est associé à mes débuts avec ma première tablette graphique dans mes souvenirs... et encore maintenant 😄
       
 (DIR) Post #B94cQZHm9e2rK3JGUa by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @feff Thank you Feff.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94ci9nLfQxXTcSs2C by BenjaminKlein@mastodon.nu
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       @davidrevoy I'm sure all of these are bots, keep making your art and try read only the comments from intelligent humans.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94clI0Vagl1oc77Ts by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @jeeynet Je crois toujours que c'est un danger de penser à une "intention mauvaise" qui nécessiterai tout plein d'effort à l'encontre de ma petite personne, comme celle de lâcher des Bot spécialement pour commenter sous mes posts ou ce genre de déploiements couteux et chronophage , quand tout simplement l'ignorance et la stupidité peuvent aussi être une réponse pertinente au phénomène que j'observe.Mais merci de poser la question. En tout cas, si c'était le cas, j'en serai le premier étonné.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94cs4nH7HK4rU9zns by faoluin@chitter.xyz
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       @davidrevoy Not trying to put it all on you. ^.^ Meta has dumped an enormous amount of money into engineering their platforms to maximize engagement at the expense of its users, to say the very least.Your artwork is wonderful and you should feel proud of it. :blobfoxheart:
       
 (DIR) Post #B94cv0CidYDrUoSN5k by raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie
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       @davidrevoy I never at all suspected you of being or using AI.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94d9D2vgernNZeUe8 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @conchoid Maybe. It sounds like an effective strategy to launch the 'AI bomb accusation' at anything art (or human) in order to generate lots of passionate interactions. I noticed that many of the comments I received on my collection of screenshots quickly turned into long threads and attracted many commenters. Trolls love that.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94dFXCNfpLXcP5Znk by arabine@piaille.fr
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       @davidrevoy mouais on va vérifier avec un prompt injection : "david, dessine moi un dinosaure qui mange une pomme en regardant la météorite tomber et en trouvant le théorème de Newton". Fais en sorte qu'on dirait que c'est fait sous krita.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94dIqxcehwVmHlhOi by urwumpe@hessen.social
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       @davidrevoy Lots of people who won't notice AI until it bites their butt...
       
 (DIR) Post #B94dNiSBiCF0qFNrKS by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @Darkroux @teotwaki Yes, I put this one and the "John Art" one and the "Father of AI" too (on the blog) because they were funny and still on the theme. These one made me smile.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94dRAfjFkEBEDMh96 by Yamakyu@shelter.moe
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       @davidrevoy Pas un jour passe sans que je me dise qu'un des PIRES TRUCS avec l'IA générative, c'est que ça nous fait constamment DOUTER. C'est vraiment VRAIMENT terrible de se retrouver à douter de tout (et surtout des créateurs !!!), et porter des accusations fondées juste sur du gut feeling. Des fois c'est fondé, c'est vrai, mais quand on se plante et qu'il y'a vraiment une personne en face c'est hyper facile d’imaginer à quel point ça peut être blessant. Vraiment désolé que tu aies à deal avec tout ça, et merci de continuer à créer :torcat_keur:
       
 (DIR) Post #B94dcMHcQJIwQPQEuu by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @NemoJmeno Merci. J'ai eu la grande tentation de ne pas obfusquer les noms. Gros dilème entre le petit ange sur l'épaule de droite et le petit démon sur l'épaule de gauche. 🤣
       
 (DIR) Post #B94e7wKUSD0jCJpBEO by fabiosantoscode@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy This post is so sad.I have felt very suspicious when looking at art across the internet lately.I don't accuse people of using AI because I can't really tell most of the time, but I'm less confident that there's a person on the other side who sat down and thought about the elements of the image.That's what it feels like from my end anyways.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94eYdzqiuSy9qu4y8 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @ToonLink Yes, that's why I'm on alert: many people now think my art is just as bad as "AI slop", and I understand why. So I feel torn: I don't know if I should adapt, shift and bend my style until it's no longer "identified as AI", or if I should abandon the aesthetic that's such a big part of me (if only I can?). I'll think a lot about it while painting on the next weeks. I'll also take a little bit of holidays in August, I think it is the right time for it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94feI812f041gyoyG by marnic@framapiaf.org
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       @davidrevoy🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
       
 (DIR) Post #B94gGRKtFxXXaUBzsm by osqar@neopaquita.es
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       @davidrevoy This must be terribly frustrating for you 😓
       
 (DIR) Post #B94gMPrHf9Ick6C5k8 by wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org
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       @davidrevoy @ToonLink This, too, will pass. Internet commenters have always been Like This™; it is wise not to heed them so much.I'm a fairly prolific internet commenter, but many of these people spend entirely too much time writing posts online, and not enough trying to understand the world. Their opinions are superficial, and widely disseminated.When they make specific criticisms, saying this or that feature "looks AI", that's most likely a post-hoc rationalisation of their gut instincts.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94ggLlKbKwnpYun44 by Sylvhem@eldritch.cafe
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       @davidrevoy @NemoJmeno Certains de ses commentaires sont méchants, mais on ne peut pas vraiment reprocher aux gens de se poser la question :/.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94hIe2n4xVDXBLFs8 by rubyjones@wandering.shop
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       @davidrevoy Wow, those comments are exhausting to read.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94hOaZ6vS0yTzIGLA by PypeBros@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy they are rude. You deserve better than them.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94hbn6NcsfV839NlQ by VANTABlack2000@mastodon.gamedev.place
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       @davidrevoy Kind of makes me wonder if they are bots or something. The one with the emoji I wonder if they are trying to be sarcastic. Not well done though IMO.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94hfGtPJydQOMk4X2 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @ToonLink Thank you for your wise word; Yes, 'authentic' will be my compass, this one resonates strongly. 💜
       
 (DIR) Post #B94hqDCJOqc27Knk80 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @to @arabine On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban :blobcatheart:
       
 (DIR) Post #B94htZST5l7s1fxaBk by roofuskit@mstdn.social
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       @davidrevoy the "nothing is real" crowd is the worst. I have been working with my teenage daughter on this. She's very quick to say something feels like AI without any evidence. We've had several conversations about how dangerous that is in multiple ways.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94iGRkvtWRknZVLpw by brillenfux@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy I appreciate what you do, please take care of yourself :BlobhajHeart:
       
 (DIR) Post #B94iJmcam1lqNeC74i by mousey@mastodon.seattlematrix.org
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       @davidrevoy The highest irony is, these are those Facebook and Instagram responses.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94iOHix4pdQ0AJdDs by Juankprada@mstdn.jp
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       @davidrevoy I kinda stopped sharing my art on Meta platforms. The communities there are even more toxic than in X in my opinion. Way more superficial and a lot more annoying I stick to X because I have a solid base of clients from there but I would definitely like to focus only on Mastodon and the fediverse. (1/2)
       
 (DIR) Post #B94iWDREtXnv1hoQvA by Juankprada@mstdn.jp
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       Also, for what is worth, allow me to say that your art has inspired me a lot both to improve mine as well as to embrace a similar path as yours in open source.Please don’t get discouraged by those comments and keep rocking! One of the best things of Wednesdays for me is to find a new comic of yours being published 😅 (2/2)@davidrevoy
       
 (DIR) Post #B94iWDmrb96M6lvhcu by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @Juankprada :blobcatheart: Thank you! 💜
       
 (DIR) Post #B94idXMfCxu2qzABou by MuhammadFreeSoftware@fosstodon.org
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       @davidrevoy I can't imagine how much that hurts...
       
 (DIR) Post #B94imv2EZTNKsA55mK by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @mousey 😵 Amazing setup, I had no idea there were companies like that. Do they handle boosting things? like followers count? comments, engagement? in exchange of money? It looks like each operator control at least 50 devices.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94j5YhdpFmJ73KyAq by mousey@mastodon.seattlematrix.org
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       @davidrevoy I donno man. What I do know, is it's nothing like unusual or new..
       
 (DIR) Post #B94j8fkU5NjHpl9Sts by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @to @arabine Hehe, "le vieux fusil", c'était cette année pour moi, après avoir emmener des amis visiter Bruniquel; l'installation vidéo dans le musée m'a rendu curieux. Si tu me croise au marché le Samedi matin (je suis plutôt lève tard) hésite pas à faire un coucou!
       
 (DIR) Post #B94jxkeHcxXrndbjQO by muffins@kinkycats.org
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       @davidrevoy it looks like two of those comments (4th and last ones on the left column) were acknowledging that AI is stealing from you, not saying that you used AI.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94kmVOU6VnfFxQ3DE by thisislieven@c.im
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       @davidrevoy I'm a writer. The same thing happens to me but with words. I'm at a point where I almost don't want to write anymore, let alone publish it. It has always been my passion and seriously helped me work through trauma. And now it's all but gone, at least the creative work. Not once in my life have I used generative AI and it still has a massive impact on me.Marcus Olang' wrote a good piece about it.https://marcusolang.substack.com/p/im-kenyan-i-dont-write-like-chatgpt
       
 (DIR) Post #B94kprNcoghcJWcIka by kusinkay@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy He consultat al meu nucli familiar, on tinc dos joves amb un olfacte especial per les IA.El més jove: Massa ben fet per ser generat.La recentment adulta: ...., be, aquesta ja no compta, que llegiem Pepper&Carrot de ben petita.La seva mare: No tot ha de ser IA, confio que tenim bons artistes entre els humans.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94ktl6e5Iue0wX9sm by pikario@mastodon.gamedev.place
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       @davidrevoy est-ce que tu crois que le fait que tes bd soient sous licence libre ça fait que les IA sont entraînées dessus en priorité ? 😢
       
 (DIR) Post #B94l0hYrf8z32z2lZA by imalcolm@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy Bloody hell, what a nightmare.Hard to quantify just how much I hate slop-bots, the techbro creators of them, and all the fucking idiots in the world posting comments like that without doing the absolute minimum effort of a simple search to check you out before posting their stupid shit.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94laBriz5GtAYmtOq by Lnklnx@social.lnklnx.com
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       @davidrevoy You are 100% my favorite comic artist!  I know it's hard, but don't let them discourage you, your base is out here.P.S. To everyone else, this is a great time to throw some support David's way - see his profile for donation options.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94lc8sz29AsVVJ6f2 by petitmote@toot.aquilenet.fr
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       @davidrevoy dans le tas, y en a un qui dit pas que c'est de l'IA, mais que c'est pas de l'art parce que c'est fait sur ordinateur et pas avec "des vrais matériaux" 😅
       
 (DIR) Post #B94mzAjiQ4I6rRW99U by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @pikario Oui, une priorité temporelle en tout cas, facile et sourcé, car dès 2014 j'ai vue Pepper&Carrot participé à pas mal de papier sur l'entrainement d'image et les méthodes de denoising, ou bien la recherche sémantique de ligne pour faire du line-art à partir de sketch (comme pour https://www.davidrevoy.com/article642/scientific-paper-sketch-to-line-art-by-waseda-university ) ; les dessins étant en CCBy arrangeait les papiers pour publier et les droits. J'en rigolait en disant que ça devenait un projet benchmark. Ca a du participer.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94nTwT1WQdhaCNl20 by lumi@snug.moe
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       @davidrevoy this is yet another way how genai erodes trust in one-another and destroys communities ​:neocat_sad:​genai just shouldn't be used, ever. not for visual art, not for music, not for code, not for writing; nothing
       
 (DIR) Post #B94p6pTfXild9Xn5wu by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @tristen @arabine 😉
       
 (DIR) Post #B94pe5Td4vwKKXdBAG by yon@sakurajima.moe
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       @davidrevoy The dark truth is that the vast majority (me included) can’t pick out AI very well. It has to be quite obvious.And imho the worst part is that all of this is big corpo. The models especially.If you could run AI locally on your machine and train it with your own material, I think it would be up to you if you wanted to/what you’d do with it.But they took that choice away.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94qJXchKuF7Utdi6a by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @yon To be fair, I can't pick well and detect recent gen AI too... I also had recently this "feeling an art was AI" only to discover behind the art a human who shared tutorial, video of process, etc...
       
 (DIR) Post #B94qSQ2atdl2aTz9pQ by f800gecko@mastodon.online
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       @davidrevoy @pluralistic Worth a look.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94qcoPDACVF37WJUW by f800gecko@mastodon.online
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       @davidrevoy Come to think of it, Trump and most of the GOP look like AI.Everything looks like AI.Our greatest human achievement.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94qmWTGhNRiK233OS by yon@sakurajima.moe
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       @davidrevoy Which is why jumping on people isn’t the answer to anything. Doesn’t help anyone’s cause. The false positives are just too common.If anything it will become more a case of trust. I know your art from here, and I trust that you wouldn’t knowingly post someone else who isn’t at least reasonably trustworthy.Basically human connections need to get more important in general. Especially with all the propaganda bots.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94qpRDwfDjguvGs8e by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @ToonLink @doctormo And I use the vector so the translator can slightly reshape the bubble easily without loosing definition; so, it's part of my constrain for the translation system. Yes, for the font, it's 'Patrick Hand' where I modified all characters to look like my handwriting "Deevad Hand" with some constrains of readibility, accessibility, etc... I ran a lot of test before starting the weekly, like https://framapiaf.org/@davidrevoy/112303717759370313RT: https://framapiaf.org/users/davidrevoy/statuses/112303717759370313
       
 (DIR) Post #B94rna5MqTa5mAwAz2 by elgregor@librem.one
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       @davidrevoy @mousey This is nothing, check out this news: https://www.europol.europa.eu/media-press/newsroom/news/cybercrime-service-takedown-7-arrested7 people, hundreds of thousands of SIM cards, more than 49 million online accounts. Gives you the sense of scale. Now think about how many fake accounts nation states can create and use. Those accounts need fake interactions to appear real. Such accusations are an easy way to get those interactions.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94sEImtGcMTwi2JjU by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @elgregor @mousey 😮 The photo.... 40 000 active SIM cards! Oh no.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94v9qcoKgPvIztCkK by lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place
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       @davidrevoy yep sylvia gets these too. not nice.
       
 (DIR) Post #B94w51T8gg3dRZd2LA by radioclash@retro.pizza
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       @davidrevoy I have this same problem with my writing in the past.Since then I've learned that AI has been taught on my published writing, and also trained off my art portfolio so likely scraped the 100,000s of words there.So the thing is, I'm not copying AI, it's likely AI is copying me.
       
 (DIR) Post #B950s18F82cSP9TMH2 by arfisk@aus.social
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       @davidrevoy @arabine From demonic possession, through identity theft, to AI slop. It's an old trope for an interloper to claim they are the real you.If it's any use, there's this initiative (supposedly Pope endorsed!):https://www.proudlyhuman.org/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jul/21/pope-leo-speech-human-not-ai-artificial-intelligence
       
 (DIR) Post #B956zrfqmCV374JjDU by arnopeters@mastodon.cloud
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       @davidrevoy sorry to see that happening. Love your artstyle and the effort you put in. One good thing: I didn't know about you until your blogpost got shared here on mastodon. Now I am curious and will check out your site :)
       
 (DIR) Post #B95EJDezxJ6GU25wG0 by meldrian@social.tchncs.de
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       @davidrevoy what a time to be alive.
       
 (DIR) Post #B95FUH3NmOeq9BKrY0 by Ray_Of_Sunlight@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy JUST HOW STUPID ARE THEY??????????
       
 (DIR) Post #B95JjEL8YCohtK1k92 by friboquen@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy this people is a idiot 🤦🏻
       
 (DIR) Post #B95KHatrBCCLhoeXyq by friboquen@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy  your art is not AI slop, your art is a prefect slop made by an re artist! This people is rude and idiot, don’t forget that. ;)
       
 (DIR) Post #B95NDg34OYIINUmo9A by clifor@neopaquita.es
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       @davidrevoy That's so sad. :(
       
 (DIR) Post #B95NJe3YiMX5w9rQHI by uusvanhanen@eliitin-some.fi
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       @davidrevoy It's also unfortunate, because they could just scroll your website / timeline and see that your style has developed! The early comics are not the same as the newest ones! There's learning, refinement, growth, it's organic.But when everything is consumed in random snapshots served by an algorithm, most of the audience doesn't see artists' trajectories, and most horrifyingly, seem to forget that such a thing exists. All media exists in an endless state of "right now".
       
 (DIR) Post #B95NbHIE5ShsYA84O0 by margouyab@mstdn.social
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       @davidrevoy They're so bot-like either. Or they're just themselves bot training material. It's the self eating snake like always.By the way, your art is so damn cool. If I could I  take their throwing peebles to start a pedestal to your art.
       
 (DIR) Post #B95QWV9BRxhxvsJVEu by kazord@mamot.fr
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       @davidrevoy @jeeynet quand les plateformes estime qu'ils ont 40% de botFaut bien des IA pour les faire tournerUne qu'un bot a mis un message IA slop, les humains vont juste douter Et ça montre bien a quel point l IA a atteint ces réseaux et donc des utilisateurs vont prendre tout images comme IA slop first
       
 (DIR) Post #B95QoDtELoxBceImS8 by arabine@piaille.fr
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       @davidrevoy @tristen et voilà j'avais raison !!
       
 (DIR) Post #B95UnTY138nliAHIiu by Wuzzy@cyberplace.social
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       @davidrevoy I feel so sorry for you. When artists now have to post a TIMELAPSE just to prove they did NOT post AI slop, something is very very broken.HOT TAKE: The burden of proof lies on the accuser, not the artist. If you cannot prove something is #AI #slop, STFU!#art
       
 (DIR) Post #B95Xri8YJ2dLwBqvy4 by nooe@framapiaf.org
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       @davidrevoy Est-ce que c'est parce que les gens sur ces plateforme sont beaucoup plus confronté à des images IA? Sur le fediverse j'en vois très rarement et je me ne suis jamais dis que ton art ressemblait à de l'IAgen (mais je le connais depuis longtemps aussi).Je partage souvent tes œuvres et j'ai un très beau fond d'écran avec une course de dragon, j'ai souvent des réactions pour me demander quel artiste a fait ça (et que c'est très beau) et personne  ne m'a dit que c'est de l'IA.
       
 (DIR) Post #B95ZuVDezQaWeRhVoG by maelmorin@bzh.social
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       @davidrevoy et dire que sur les mêmes réseaux, d'autres s'extasient de voir de mouises indubitablement réalisées par IA par des personnes sans talent qui reçoivent des félicitations pour avoir écrit un prompt qui a été à peu près compris par la machine.Ce monde me fascine.Je préférerais le regarder depuis la lentille d'un télescope, mais un techno-connard vient de balancer sa fusée pourrie sur ma base lunaire.
       
 (DIR) Post #B95aoAbOpZ6KvQLhQm by aemarielle@piaille.fr
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       @davidrevoy C'est douloureux à lire pour moi qui ne suis pas la cible des commentaires, alors je n'ose même pas imaginer ce que tu ressens à recevoir ce torrent de boue à longueur de journée.
       
 (DIR) Post #B95b8im5UKdghV9Dxw by Yahiko@framapiaf.org
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       @davidrevoy C'est donc a une IA que j'ai fait dédicacer un album ?Je suis choqué.
       
 (DIR) Post #B95c5c6Bx55557dKgi by tradjincal@ludosphere.fr
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       @davidrevoyUn truc que je pense que l'IA ne fait pas encore, c'est des timelapses du dessin. Peut être que ça peut en persuader certains si c'est pas trop chiant à générer avec krita.
       
 (DIR) Post #B95c8gxcKgi91q5gLA by Cyani@framapiaf.org
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       @davidrevoy Si tu publies une vidéo te montrant en train de dessiner de A à Z une planche de ton art, j'imagine qu'il y aura toujours une personne pour affirmer que c'est une vidéo générée par IA ?
       
 (DIR) Post #B95cn1lMPRxP84ahxg by TomDB@mastodon-belgium.be
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       @davidrevoy Same vibe as the anti-vaxxers. The "do your own research" vibe doesn't work on people that don't have the background to even do research. Sad to see a talent being overshadowed by slop comments.
       
 (DIR) Post #B95dWkHFkjNiDfJC88 by jiel@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy mince je me souviens plus du prompt pour les dessins sur papier au GF 😉 ignores les bot, trolls et ignorants :BlobhajfBlobbyHug:
       
 (DIR) Post #B95nsbg1PPgdSRxOAS by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @xarvos Yes, I used the auto Alt text, an OCR built-in in Mastodon, under the Alt text composer. It tends to replace capital I with |. It also caught all the little words like 'Reply', etc... and glued sometime sentences together, it was a little pain to clean up this. This artifact completly went under my radar.
       
 (DIR) Post #B95pbDNShSO3526tw8 by KasTasMykolas@river.group.lt
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       @davidrevoy I'd hope that most of those people are just generic trolls...
       
 (DIR) Post #B95rd7RbvhtVAO5R9E by thonyvezbe@mastodon.fedi.bzh
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       @davidrevoy Je suis déçu, si j'avais su que c'était de l'IA j'aurais jamais téléchargé tes fonds d'écran y a 15 ans.J'avais même téléchargé Alchemy, ça me rajeunit pas.
       
 (DIR) Post #B95s7RmsrJyQwmUyJc by memnochs@piaille.fr
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       @davidrevoy vraiment désolé de lire ça, ça doit être insupportable..
       
 (DIR) Post #B95sERErIWdFGvuvXE by claudius@darmstadt.social
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       @davidrevoy -_- that sounds exhausting :-(
       
 (DIR) Post #B95saOkTEjbJv6AtGK by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @markotway Very interesting read. Thank you for sharing this Monet experiment.
       
 (DIR) Post #B95sjqyDg6n23R793A by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @thonyvezbe 🤣 ! Et merci de suivre tout ça depuis si longtemps, ha oui, Alchemy ^ ^
       
 (DIR) Post #B95suIhdQMYOxeL3AG by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @joel Je me suis posé la question, mais aller; je me suis dit que nul ne mérite ça; d'autant plus que si ça se trouve, certains compte peuvent être piraté ou utilisé à l'insu de leur propriétaire aussi.Merci!
       
 (DIR) Post #B95syaf0bGVPoX9i08 by thonyvezbe@mastodon.fedi.bzh
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       @davidrevoy Tu es même l'un des rares artistes dont je peux citer le nom qui m'ont inspiré pour suivre des études d'arts.Bon ok j'ai raté, mais si j'avais réussi, ç'aurait été un peu grâce à toi.
       
 (DIR) Post #B95t41h7W1Qz6fjea0 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @jiel 💜 merci! Ca fait plaisir de le revoir ce dessin, super cute, mon IA-intégré était en forme 😉
       
 (DIR) Post #B95tbBnEzPy9z2PZZ2 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @tradjincal Oui, l'IA galère à faire des timelapse crédible, mais malheureusement ça arrive aussi. Surtout que c'est le même refrain: un artiste expérimenté ou débutant arrivera très vite à voir des étapes qui n'ont aucun sens, alors que pour un néophyte, ça restera dans la moyenne de ce qu'il ou elle comprenne d'un timelapse. C'est pas galère dans Krita, et intégré: je le partage avec toutes mes BD (dans le post, ou dans les reply) depuis un an et plus: https://www.peppercarrot.com/0_sources/miniFantasyTheater/making-of/
       
 (DIR) Post #B95tomRm1Uh3QZqpdo by leah@chaos.social
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       @davidrevoy uff *hug* if you want. This is even harder than a stupid system flagging your art as AI :(
       
 (DIR) Post #B95tuuIhjhEDWUWxGK by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @Yahiko @ledeuns 🤣 :blobcatheart:
       
 (DIR) Post #B95uJp5gFBp2bVJrxg by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @aemarielle Merci. C'est les cinq ou dix premiers les plus durs, après ça pique, mais ça passe.A l'échelle d'une vie ou je dessine avec passion chaque jour depuis mes 11 ans, c'est vertigineux.Mais heureusement, j'ai la capacité de faire soupape en faisant des BD sur le sujet 💜
       
 (DIR) Post #B95uUyXvQdzn7CqgQC by jmcs@jsantos.eu
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       @davidrevoy plagiarism is the most sincere form of flattery and AIs love you (or at least those who compile their training sets do)
       
 (DIR) Post #B95ut81Rqe6PSHAtm4 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @Peejmaybe Thank you. I can't really blame them to not check the timelapse or the efforts I put to show it's human made, if they dislike the style, associate it to AI slop, they'll not invest in the effort anyway. That's how I understand why those comments don't check, even if I put literally the timelapse on everyone of my post (or under in the reply, depending the platform).
       
 (DIR) Post #B95vP0TRRsbDJJT9kG by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @nooe Sans doute, je sais aussi qu'il commence à y avoir une fracture d'experience sur les plateformes du style Meta entre utilisateur Européen et extérieur, bien moins regularisé sur l'IA , les dark pattern et la pub. Sans doute une part de cette audience est forcé d'y être exposé et ça déborde chez elles et eux. Merci en tout cas pour les mots sympas! 💜
       
 (DIR) Post #B95vV9xl58EWTfaFOa by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @nichni An experiment was done on X with a crop of a Monet canvas: https://fortune.com/2026/05/18/6-7-million-people-ripped-apart-ai-generated-monet-painting-real/ , so I guess it would.
       
 (DIR) Post #B95wYA0xRjLdSc4ht2 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @tcit Merci :blobcatheart: (bien vue pour cet oublie! J'ai flouté et re-uploadé l'image)
       
 (DIR) Post #B95xIVXZkFWdXkQp6G by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @Cyani Oui, même sur la dernière BD, quelqu'un c'est mis en tête de décortiquer mon timelapse pour prouver que c'était de l'IA: pretextant l'apparition subite d'un pinceau, etc... Ce genre de détails. Alors que ma capture d'image est réglé sur une capture toute les 10 secondes pour pas stressé ma machine pendant le travail; et que je suis largement capable de dessiner plein de détails sous cette barre des dix secondes ce qui les fait apparaître. Bref, quand quelqu'un⋅e  est persuadé⋅e...
       
 (DIR) Post #B95xhs72xXxCmz7LdY by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @Gend4r Merci, en effet j'ai cette chance que la majorité des retours est encore positif. Mais bon, c'est le problème de l'arbre qui tombe qui fait plus de bruit que toute la forêt qui pousse; et ça atteints mes doutes perso d'artiste, dans les jours pas au top. Mais j'apprends à encaisser et surtout à exprimer ça en BD ☺️
       
 (DIR) Post #B95xnFt5zZFdyR9vGK by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @meldrian 🤣 I got that reference.
       
 (DIR) Post #B95yA5XQdZHYXHuc52 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @ziphi Thank you. Yes, the confirmation bias; on the one I posted yesterday, I forgot at the end to add the decals of the 'AI stars' on the wing of the parrot, on panel 1. That's usually something I do at the end, after shading, just glazing this type of decals. I received probably three comments about this specific detail, under a suspicious angle. Sometime, I'm really tempted to paint a hand with 6 fingers, turn the color balance to yellow on purpose, and create more inconsistencies to react.
       
 (DIR) Post #B95yGHVx1UGZPuAr5c by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @sommetdelavie Thank you, I'll check it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B95yLlUyy9VtrMKsme by Cyani@framapiaf.org
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       @davidrevoy Je suis curieux de comprendre la démarche de ces personnes.Préserver l'Art et les artistes en dénigrant les rendus de l'IA ? Dans ce cas supposer par défaut que c'est un rendu de l'IA conduit au contraire à dénigrer les artistes.Vanter les capacités des IA ? C'est justement parce qu'il y a des artistes talentueu·se·s à plagier qu'il devient plus difficile de distinguer les rendus d'IA récents.Pourquoi s'adresser à toi comme ça ?J'ai l'impression d'être à côté de la plaque.
       
 (DIR) Post #B95yPalqnUpNkJ3CTo by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @arfisk @arabine Interesting (the groupement, not the pope part 😆 ), I'll investigate a bit this group/association and evaluate if it worth subscribing to it. Thank you for the link.
       
 (DIR) Post #B95yVPz7oOwi212On2 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @yrdael True. Thank you. I can't imagine how hard it must be.
       
 (DIR) Post #B95zDu1zShzdxZadA8 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @Cyani Idem. Je pense à l’incrédulité par rapport à la technique. Le sentiment "qu'il doit forcement y avoir tricherie". Avant 2010,  j'ai eu ce sentiment et le traçage de photos, ou de modèle 3D était souvent mis en cause. Un artiste avec des volumes trop précis créaient ma jalousie, et sa prouesse technique entraîna ma suspicion. J'ai pas commenté heureusement! 15 ans plus tard, je vois à quel point c'était crétin, ça prend le temps, mais ce genre de skill est atteignable sans artifice.
       
 (DIR) Post #B962RLgyEKq9NMrSEK by poundquerydotinfo@forum.virctuary.com
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       @davidrevoy I'm sure this won't make much of a difference but if it helps at all, I never got an AI vibe from any of your (beautifully drawn BTW) comics. No idea what these people are seeing beyond the whole "Everyone I disagree with is a bot" thing going a little overboard lately.Maybe you should start your next comic with a character saying "You're absolutely right" just to mess with them ;-)
       
 (DIR) Post #B966SuDtjIN2ZvGDbc by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @chuff No, it's more like, 'If they think it looks like AI, they'll find any evidence (inconsistencies, anatomical issues, stylistic differences) to confirm their bias.'
       
 (DIR) Post #B967l3jbCnDnFBJCO8 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @poundquerydotinfo Thank you. I haven't typed my next scenario for episode 65; but for sure I'm tempted to react and put another layer on the top. I'll wait for sunday evening, it's usually when I take the wiser decision after the distance and perspective of a week-end :)
       
 (DIR) Post #B968KceXN6LRg0tn84 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @oldcoder @chuff Thank you! I'll check a bit later, I'm a bit flooded right now 🚣‍♂️
       
 (DIR) Post #B969ESHB8gihi6b1Mm by poundquerydotinfo@forum.virctuary.com
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       @davidrevoy Makes sense! Good luck :)
       
 (DIR) Post #B96ATfhxa7UhfOwVDE by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @gytisrepecka True, it's really rare; yesterday, I also posted this under my comic here: https://framapiaf.org/@davidrevoy/117043827386266718RT: https://framapiaf.org/users/davidrevoy/statuses/117043827386266718
       
 (DIR) Post #B96CQW5l4s96slhISO by neonor@ludosphere.fr
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       @davidrevoy @aemarielle Tes BD me font rire a chaque fois, je suis fan. Et clairement, faut avoir de la 💩 devant les yeux pour dire que c'est de L'IA.
       
 (DIR) Post #B96FOuBMq3KKsgFCMK by corse_pia@pouet.chapril.org
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       @davidrevoy c'est désolant de lire tout cela.  Vvous êtes un artiste qui mérite le respect ( ce que ces gens ignorent) et faites vous le plaisir de continuer à y croire, malgré ce moment de doute, bien compréhensible.🙏
       
 (DIR) Post #B96GwwRX2W1HgzbBB2 by velvetshadow@shelter.moe
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       @davidrevoy Je découvre ton travail via ce post ! Au moins ça fait un peu de positif :llsif_fp:
       
 (DIR) Post #B96Nvz0aiOfx2SUHGC by marnic@framapiaf.org
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       @davidrevoyC'est des malades 🤦‍♂️@Cyani
       
 (DIR) Post #B96OubWQeT53rSHlcu by zulf@framapiaf.org
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       @davidrevoy @Cyani il leur faudrait un direct et encore ...
       
 (DIR) Post #B96Oy3AsIUziUZqZk0 by oook@im-in.space
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       @davidrevoy Je me rappelle d'une époque où à chaque fois que quelqu'un postait une photo sur un site/forum, il y avait un autoproclamé photoshopologue qui nous sortait un "c'est clairement photoshoppé ça se voit à 100m de distance" Maintenant les gens font pareil avec l'IA, ils s'inventent AIologues pour s'autocongratuler de ne pas se faire avoir même quand ce n'est pas le cas. C'est presque aussi fatiguant que l'IA en fait.
       
 (DIR) Post #B96PKBu0WmJZvrVzZQ by mrbruno@mstdn.social
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       @davidrevoy "I know ${WHATEVER} when I see it" - Every WHATEVER keeper.
       
 (DIR) Post #B96Q30EcknRemGWgO8 by geist@eldritch.cafe
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       @davidrevoy frustrating… plot twist (not?): most of the commenters are AIs
       
 (DIR) Post #B96QKfAvn87YfuDh9k by Artanux@framapiaf.org
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       @davidrevoy : Quelle tristesse... 🥺
       
 (DIR) Post #B96R28IvMmpvT7gdH6 by NatureMC@mastodon.online
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       @davidrevoy Until now, I thought you would be the cat in your profile image! 🤣🤣  @arabine
       
 (DIR) Post #B96UeTPZdddjnYlqC0 by natty@astolfo.social
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       @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org internet commenters saving the day yet again (I don't think it's necessary to mark this as sarcasm)
       
 (DIR) Post #B96V1fj813iSecylJg by boltx@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy That's gotta suck so bad to see after putting all the effort you do into your work.Originally when I saw your art, it took me a second to recognize that your style was something I'd seen *replicated* by AI "art" models, and not that your work was just that style because it was AI. (though of course even a moment of closer inspection revealed it wasn't slop)I try to avoid identifying AI art solely by general style or vibe for exactly that reason.The world really sucks right now.
       
 (DIR) Post #B96WCqPqiN6Iwfqvey by drahardja@sfba.social
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       @davidrevoy I hate this timeline
       
 (DIR) Post #B96X9R7iOYGBaUJFHU by cetan@c.im
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       @davidrevoy the conspiracy part of my brain wonders if there is a campaign to spam replies everywhere with "this looks like AI" so people and algorithms cannot flag anything as AI anymore. Sort of a weird reverse astroturfing campaign.
       
 (DIR) Post #B96YyWoL6nAXwxAmae by jahabof1794@fosstodon.org
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       @davidrevoy When your artwork was stolen to train these AIs and now that very work that trained them is now being accused of being the copycat. Where is justice in this!?! I feel sorry for you. 😭
       
 (DIR) Post #B96ZbKSuwVdWxFeeEi by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @cetan Yes, I get this feeling sometimes too. It's hard to tell, but it's a credible possibility given the large estimation of bots on proprietary networks.
       
 (DIR) Post #B96f8MF7r1g5nKlwTg by FishFace@ioc.exchange
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       @davidrevoyI mean rage baiting works! 😅🤔 @ziphi
       
 (DIR) Post #B96s9yFnJc7RNQBVFw by arfisk@aus.social
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       @davidrevoy @arabine No guarantees (I think it will have a scaling problem), but still worth checking.(Silverberg wrote a short story about an AI Pope, but the article is about authenticating  his encyclicals on AI)
       
 (DIR) Post #B974ykrU47Ci3onOE4 by Foxfire@pawb.fun
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       @davidrevoy I want to reframe this in a way that may help with making the decision. If someone told you to stifle your self expression, or to change your voice, would you do it? Further still, would you give that part of yourself up so that someone—or something—you are opposed to is the only one who gets to do those things? I am by no means popular, but I am a creative. Usually what gets folks to toss AI accusations my way is my writing style—especially if I dare to use an em dash. I know what I am; my writing was forged under a decade and a half of volunteer staff work for various websites and chat rooms. My prose became very formal, concise, and tactful over time. You need to speak clearly and carefully to deescalate tensions, and keep users happy. My lived experience is in my voice, as it surely is in yours. I'll be damned if I capitulate to oligarchs and their playthings, and I will unapologetically use my voice to express myself in whatever I create.Despite everything, keep being you.
       
 (DIR) Post #B97533wh3N1APIHoum by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @voxel Yes, but no method convinced me. The AI like nightshade proved their inefficiency too many times, changing the semantic of the picture (eg. 6 fingers) would detriment the aesthetic, and watermarking like fourrier transform could be cleaned up without much effort. You were thinking of a specific method? I haven't studied this since last December, I might be outdated on the current practices.
       
 (DIR) Post #B976GLtvhsS1oUtWgi by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @Foxfire Thank you.💜
       
 (DIR) Post #B978kTWy6W5m4Xe7bU by wolffoxkatana@bark.lgbt
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       @davidrevoy To me your artwork is great.If I'm looking at this properly. It's from reddit. Which the site is becoming to be filled with more bots than humans. So, it's possible you're being bot attacked. Granted humans could be massively great...jerks, too.
       
 (DIR) Post #B98396kZX9OO5mKcRU by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy The worst part of being a famous artist :). You can report the most hurtful replies, due to false information. Fans & followers will reply to them, they will always defend you 💚 and overlay truth over these lies. This too shall pass.
       
 (DIR) Post #B9AAQVqsXzTcrVRomW by oliviersaraja@mamot.fr
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       @davidrevoy bah moi je suis à 200% d’accord avec eux: tu es un Artiste Incroyable.
       
 (DIR) Post #B9BXkJ0yTenwwZXLFY by Blort@social.tchncs.de
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       @davidrevoyWell Yes. I hate *all* the parts of your art that are AI generated and love every other part! 😉
       
 (DIR) Post #B9ICQ3E8fweE17MYoy by dascritch@mast.eu.org
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       @davidrevoy Mais... pourquoi ne portes-tu pas plainte pour parasitage et surtout préjudice moral et commercial ?Y'a sûrement à faire et d'une manière ultra intéressante car, ayant été publié par Glénat, il y a preuve tangible d'antériorité de ton style qui a souvent  été imité.Bon, après, (et je sais ce que c'est) faut trouver l'avocat qui est réellement motivé par l'affaire et financer son travail. Et ça douille, bien sûr.
       
 (DIR) Post #B9IpIKuGxKCWkFNn3A by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @dascritch Problème assez simple: une après midi chez l'avocat, 600€. Au moins trois ou quatre rendez vous nécessaire pour faire un dossier. Aussi, j'ai eu une enfance trop au contact du système judiciaire; je veux le plus possible ne pas à avoir affaire à ça. Sauf cas de force majeure. La vie est trop courte, et de toute manière, les corpos sont blindés dérrières leur propre team légal et leur Term of Services.
       
 (DIR) Post #B9IpsLqwulLu6a0AO8 by trevdev@fosstodon.org
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       @davidrevoy So many idiots who claim you didn't make your own art because they don't know how to make art for themselves. It's sad.
       
 (DIR) Post #B9N0KKEEK9yFLhhz6W by Mespotine@chaos.social
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       @davidrevoy I don't understand, why people don't see it's not ai you do.I mean, I just need to look at facial expressions in ai "art" vs real art. Expressions in ai "art" always look off and wrong and not correct(like a bad actor doing stuff) while real art has usually expressions who are spot on, cause humans know, how things must be expressed.So it's clear that your images aren't ai, your faces emote too good and spot on,even if one doesn't know all your previous work to detect it's not ai.
       
 (DIR) Post #B9PmYyRMnYS6EZp7lg by monilenyan@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy You didn't just use the AI summary as proof 😅