Post B8B5JgmaUKpLoaXPzU by kabel42@polymaths.social
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(DIR) Post #B8B53krjXXtJqRLZqK by orbitalmartian@polymaths.social
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For the #Debian people out there.What's the difference between apt and apt-get? And which is better/the right one to use?
(DIR) Post #B8B53l96UxmmiJTRuy by amin@polymaths.social
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@orbitalmartianapt-get is an older interface for the same thing, essentially. Both will work, but apt is a little more modern.Both are a more user-friendly way to interact with the packaging system than dpkg. Not quite everything in apt-get is in apt but most is and all the most important stuff.
(DIR) Post #B8B53lSFLn69fgQjku by samd@social.coop
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@amin @orbitalmartian my favorite thing about apt-get is that it reminds me of the last time Ubuntu was cool
(DIR) Post #B8B53lhUR7I8QxYuW0 by rl_dane@polymaths.social
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@samd @amin @orbitalmartianI have my own front-ends for apt search and alt show that have more efficient output and faster results, respectively.
(DIR) Post #B8B53lwNXlCXB8Wniq by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@rl_dane @samd @amin @orbitalmartian for the former: wtf -p and wtf -Pfor the latter: dpkg -s if installed, otherwise apt-cache show is the fastest way to get at the data (you can do something with grep-dctrl but the info is spread across multiple Packages files, so…)
(DIR) Post #B8B5Geirgu8wYbLn5U by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@orbitalmartian fun that you mention it, I wrote about this the other day: see my reply to https://chaos.social/@kbob/116844487292914099and yes, this is pretty much contradicting Amin… to 60% or so(the reference to dpkg is also unnecessary, as apt is a different layer than dpkg and keeps extra metadata)
(DIR) Post #B8B5JgmaUKpLoaXPzU by kabel42@polymaths.social
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@orbitalmartian isn't apt just a more modern easier to use frontend for apt-get/apt-cache/dpkg?
(DIR) Post #B8B5Jh17cISAXfL1e4 by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@kabel42 @orbitalmartian more modern yes, easier to use no
(DIR) Post #B8B5YOF7hVxAettZRo by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@rl_dane @samd @amin @orbitalmartian @jbowen for the others who read this, you’ll need my wtf implementation of course, for example from:mircvs://src/usr.bin/wtf/https://debr.mirbsd.org/repos/wtf/dists/sarge/wtf/Pkgs/wtf/ (has packaging for Debian (including the then-current acronyms) but no stable URL, old versions are replaced with newer ones occasionally)https://mbsd.evolvis.org/MirOS/dist/mir/wtf/ (has stable URLs as distfiles, old versions stay, acronyms not included)In all cases, obtain the more up-to-date acronyms.gz from https://mbsd.evolvis.org/wtf.htm and store as /usr/share/misc/acronyms (or set $ACRONYMDB to the path) for acronym use (distinct of use for searching packages).
(DIR) Post #B8GVz8FiPGTYi3wpDk by rl_dane@polymaths.social
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@mirabilos @samd @amin @orbitalmartian @jbowenNICE! The acronyms file that came with the FreeBSD package was extremely anemic.
(DIR) Post #B8GVz8c34EL9pKOf20 by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@rl_dane @samd @amin @orbitalmartian @jbowen mind that my version of wtf does some extra “normalisation” for the acronyms file “key” column, so a different wtf implementation will not be able to find all entries (e.g. “wtf e.g.” will only find anything if you use my version because the dots are not stored in the key column)
(DIR) Post #B8Ga8w5ms7wnhyEasi by rl_dane@polymaths.social
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@mirabilos @samd @amin @orbitalmartian @jbowenI noticed that your acronym file has a lot of "nōn" typos, so I corrected those in my copy. 😄
(DIR) Post #B8Ga8wPzf06uidgjNQ by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@samd @rl_dane @orbitalmartian @jbowen @amin latine sunt nōn errorēs, stulte! 😹