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(DIR) Post #B7l99Om5AauaVvQeMi by mullvadnet@mastodon.online
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@jenshansen @lostgen Mullvad is a political company fighting for free speech, free information and privacy, with two equal co-founders, co-owners and co-CEOs who fundamentally disagree on many issues. Daniel's donation to a political party is private and not part of Mullvad's mission. We protect the right to express and access views we disagree with. We welcome anyone sharing these core values, whatever their other opinions. We are happy to refund others who don't, where we can.
(DIR) Post #B7l9AGPFlgjiqlABHM by mullvadnet@mastodon.online
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@astro @lostgen Mullvad is a political company fighting for free speech, free information and privacy, with two equal co-founders, co-owners and co-CEOs who fundamentally disagree on many issues. Daniel's donation to a political party is private and not part of Mullvad's mission. We protect the right to express and access views we disagree with. We welcome anyone sharing these core values, whatever their other opinions. We are happy to refund others who don't, where we can.
(DIR) Post #B7l9IzsMb6TUBhwZGK by mullvadnet@mastodon.online
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@lostgen Mullvad is a political company fighting for free speech, free information and privacy, with two equal co-founders, co-owners and co-CEOs who fundamentally disagree on many issues. Daniel's donation to a political party is private and not part of Mullvad's mission. We protect the right to express and access views we disagree with. We welcome anyone sharing these core values, whatever their other opinions. We are happy to refund others who don't, where we can.
(DIR) Post #B7l9bVbjMHI7oYzUie by lostgen@det.social
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@mullvadnetPlease address the two concerns I raised in my post. This is a generic statement you seem to send currently to many concerned users.
(DIR) Post #B7l9u0nQ8fAZkyHWgS by mullvadnet@mastodon.online
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@estelle4565 @lostgen Please contact our Support Team by email:support at mullvadvpn dot net
(DIR) Post #B7lAsGa8ZoPU5enffM by vksxypants@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet @lostgen I'm not sure why you think spamming everyone with this same standard corporate non-response is a good idea.anyway, I'm sure you would defend our right to free speech in spreading the word far and wide that paying for Mullvad ends up pays for fascists, and our right to free association by cancelling our subscriptions, such is your unwavering commitment to our freedom.
(DIR) Post #B7lCsdUlaKr53yalLk by jplebreton@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet @lostgen tell your PR team that this statement is worse than saying nothing.> We protect the right to express and access views we disagree with. We welcome anyone sharing these core values,"a group of people doesn't deserve human rights" is not just "a view" someone holds, it affects everything they do, their decision making and that of any org they hold power in, the impact they have on the world. you are complicit in your CEO's actions and the consequences will be dramatic.
(DIR) Post #B7lFogn7gj4nzQzIUS by GLaDTheresCake@todon.nl
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@mullvadnet @lostgen And yet can you guarantee that all money that I give you flows to preserve the freedom of everyone to be freely able to express, live and have privacy? You cannot, since it is proven a large sum went indirectly into making a party that cares about none of those things and actively wants to dismantle human rights. Caring about only some human rights is impossible, and pretending they are not inherently linked is intellectually dishonest. This isn't a mere "difference of opinion", I'd like to ask you how one could be pro free speech information and privacy when one would like to discriminate based on nationality, deny people entry and housing based on where they come from and discriminate based on place of origin/language/skin colour (these are all personal identification information!!). You can't! Because they are conflicting goals!
(DIR) Post #B7lKB3kvO2bDOtsjqq by StephanMatthiesen@troet.cafe
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@mullvadnet Seriously? Wanting to kill people like me is just one acceptable form of "protecting privacy"?Have you lost your senses?@lostgen
(DIR) Post #B7lKCwpw5D7wWK7tPE by falcennial@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet sounds like you been doing some bad shit. perhaps twitter is the website for you, we dont accept fascists on fediverse. we finish them.
(DIR) Post #B7lKj3xZ8RFPsY0bDc by jargoggles@kolektiva.social
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen It's not part of Mullvad's mission, just part of the mission of one of the most powerful people driving Mullvad's mission. Got it.
(DIR) Post #B7lKphFVyEoXTEZEky by lumi@snug.moe
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen i do not want fascism to get toleratedmost views, it is possible to respectfully disagree onviews relating to human rights, though? no. there is no respectful disagreement possible thereplease support human rights
(DIR) Post #B7lKqJFqfRezLH12YK by davidgerard@circumstances.run
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen sounds great. what do you call a guy who sits down for dinner with a Nazi, by the way?
(DIR) Post #B7lLZngyLex2m1OWLQ by jztusk@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen "Daniel's donation to a political party is private ...".Not any more.
(DIR) Post #B7lLubJ9aUOURiAiJc by wizardponderingorb@mastodon.world
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen
(DIR) Post #B7lLw6TfBZ3lPEnv6m by aaron@social.caskey-demaret.se
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen I just hope you, and the other employees of the company, think very hard about who you are working for, and what your labour is enabling.Oh! Unrelated, here's a cool book I've been reading... https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/26184
(DIR) Post #B7lM4UButzq5GmV5do by wizardponderingorb@mastodon.world
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen "We welcome anyone sharing these core (Nazi) values, whatever their other opinions." Damn shame, glad you're giving refunds because I just signed up.
(DIR) Post #B7lNEBZL5siSMce3lo by axeln@norden.social
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen Fascism is not an opinion. Supporting fascism is the opposite of supporting free speech.
(DIR) Post #B7lNtOdbPRGKljI2dc by StephanMatthiesen@troet.cafe
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@mullvadnet So how can I get a refund, in practice? What do I have to do?@lostgen
(DIR) Post #B7lOIkSzO4pNi2PlLM by Cregg@gamedev.lgbt
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen Y'all had so much going for you. Pretty much every VPN service is full-on evil. All you needed to do was not support nazis or fascists to be clearly better than your competitors. How was doing that so hard?
(DIR) Post #B7lOtLwBY5NkLeWcMq by tsyum@thepit.social
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@mullvadnet it’s (BY DEFINITION) impossible to support fashism and free speech and privacy at the same time
(DIR) Post #B7lPOfE1t3xp94nm9w by nf3xn@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet @lostgen Yeah is that what you tell yourselves? Luckily it's not up to you. You don't get to have your cake and eat it. #FuckNazis
(DIR) Post #B7lQSnD4F7LJ1Nstsm by awmwrites@anarchism.space
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen Cut off Daniel's money then. Remove him from the mullvad team, stop paying him, let him go do whatever he wants seperate from mullvad, but stop letting him drag your company down with him
(DIR) Post #B7lRHPj9JHY8xb1pYG by petitevieille@mamot.fr
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@mullvadnetOk.Here's my piece of free speech :« Mullvad supports racism. »@astro @lostgen
(DIR) Post #B7lRRL4hSjD7QWqE1g by DBG3D@masto.es
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@mullvadnet @lostgen1 founder is a fucking fascist. Quoting you:"with two equal co-founders"Ergo, two fucking fascists.And no,"who fundamentally disagree on many issues".You cannot disagree with a fascist and be in bed with him doing business. Doesn't work that way.Any party asking for "masive deportations" and "support the national values" is a fascist and a nazi party.
(DIR) Post #B7lRSPFzOnSOgedAmm by smokegravity@mas.to
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@mullvadnet "you see, we are only HALF Nazi!"Very compelling!
(DIR) Post #B7lRlRRpTe3yz5FI48 by Commander_KEEN@lustigetiernamenbubble.de
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@mullvadnet @lostgen And we have the right not to use your service. We'll find a better one no problem 😆May I should try IVPN
(DIR) Post #B7lSFDFapL8VdhiaHY by mullvadnet@mastodon.online
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@heptag0n @StephanMatthiesen @lostgen Contact our Support Team by email:support at mullvadvpn dot net
(DIR) Post #B7lTOPFBhlX9OfTaT2 by Andreas_Sturm@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet You can not trust the far right and if one of your CEO is far right or finances them, you as a company and your products are not trustworthy at all. @lostgen
(DIR) Post #B7lUlCI880VLq8HfPM by catsitter@troet.cafe
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@mullvadnet supporting fascism is evil, regardless of whether someone does this in their personal capacity or as part of their business 🤮 I will certainly not renew my subscription and recommend to anyone who asks to do the same
(DIR) Post #B7lWq3ZOBMEa98nkxc by thedubster@ohai.social
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@mullvadnet Go fuck yourself
(DIR) Post #B7lY0LyWhpT45127Oq by robinadams@mathstodon.xyz
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@mullvadnet @lostgen How much free speech and privacy do you think Somalian people living in Sweden will have if the Örebro Party get their way?
(DIR) Post #B7lYULL9dD9YnWuwGO by ujay68@mastodon.world
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@mullvadnet So half of my money to you (minus operational costs) goes to a far-right donor?
(DIR) Post #B7lYYhOLaQ8WLcUIj2 by nohhue@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet Tech companies stop capping for fascists challenge: IMPOSSIBLE it seems.
(DIR) Post #B7lYkdR67S21YRSwka by kleisli@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet I think we live in times (again) where we can't close our eyes and tolerate positions as free speech that want to kill free speech eventually. Just look around, Trump is their role model. @lostgen
(DIR) Post #B7lZDvGau8fJFkWCVE by poundquerydotinfo@forum.virctuary.com
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@mullvadnet @lostgen Sorry, but you're writing this claptrap to an audience that fully understands the Paradox of Tolerance. You cannot be in favor of "free speech" and fund fascism or other movements that plan to use state or private violence to suppress speech.If you, dear Social Media Underlying in charge of a Mullvad's social media account, are some wide eyed 20 year old who hasn't learned this yet, go learn the lesson and get out of that corporation as soon as you can. If you're otherwise, expect us to assume you're lying and cannot be trusted.
(DIR) Post #B7lZLgiCtzYSQg8Xp2 by laura_ge@eldritch.cafe
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen You can't be real for trying to feed us with this bullshit corpo speech "we are neutral uhh we support freedom of everyone uhh even those of our nazi bigot co-owner that loves the idea of mass-deportation". ENOUGH! If really and honestly you wanted to do something for "freedom" and didnt realize your co-owner is a massive mass-deportation supporter nazi bigot, now you know, now is the time to part ways and start sueing and trying to harm your now past co-owner as much as possible and actually join people in the side of freedom and AGAINST nazis. You really thought you could fool people and do nothing and live through the PR crisis with some social media messages ugh?! Take action! Not letting nazis gain traction isnt a philosophical issue mind you, it's a LIFE OR DEATH issue.
(DIR) Post #B7lZPs2MjmZaiCYnhY by chebra@mstdn.io
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@mullvadnet I can see how this situation can be really hard for all Mullvad employees. Sure, the donation may be private and you have no say in it, but the private money would not exist without your work. Part of the value you created went to the CEO and then to a political party which may change the world you live in. We will receive the consequences of that political change, but you must now live with the knowledge that you participated. Honestly, I'd just leave that CEO behind.
(DIR) Post #B7la3ZtHcoBY0zFJM8 by newt@stereophonic.space
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@lostgen @mullvadnet oh cool, gotta renew my subscription
(DIR) Post #B7lahNjMFsgjstaEWu by iam@ernestoacosta.org
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen Hahaha... disagreeing on certain issues is one thing—like preferring vanilla over chocolate. Supporting a far-right party that goes against everything Mullvad supposedly stands for is something else entirely. You guys really screwed up—and I mean *really* screwed up.
(DIR) Post #B7lakPzUJBITlMZllw by jae@bsd.cafe
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@lostgen @gemmy you can send your mullvad creds to one of us. we're happy to use it.
(DIR) Post #B7lb93eOVQKpiQSV28 by mocchatek@infosec.exchange
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@mullvadnetI was thinking about how you might try and respond to this and I was expecting you arguing about there being two owners and that this is a private thing and bla bla bla. No surprise here. But implying that the people who want a refund now, also don't want to "protect the right to express and access views we disagree with" is insulting. I can't even begin to describe how angry I am right now. **Who** actually tries to remove the right to free speech and free expression? It's exactly those fascist assholes who just got a part of the money **we** spent on **your** service. You can't disconnect yourself from this. I have to consider you hostile towards me, my friends and my family and will not renew my subscription after it runs out next week and will recommend my peers to do the same. I won't continue to spend my money on a service where a part of that goes to people who want to see me deadEdit: oomf said she got a refund for the remaining subscription time even though the transaction is longer than 14 days ago. I guess it's worth a try
(DIR) Post #B7lbzjVS8FmaaTOTWy by orange_lux@eldritch.cafe
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen the other CEO disagrees? And still works with the guy?He's not disagreeing enough in my book.
(DIR) Post #B7lc40FfoZcRgH37E8 by johndecosta@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet @lostgen Account abandoned. There can be no tolerance for fascism.
(DIR) Post #B7lcI5qNouhl4vwG9I by helge@mas.to
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@mullvadnet @lostgen Go fuck yourselves
(DIR) Post #B7lcb8vsYppY9yapBA by streganil@mstdn.social
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@mullvadnet eg skal slutta å bruka mullvad frå nå; det er heilt utenkeleg å støtta eit selskap som var grunnlagt av ein fascist
(DIR) Post #B7ld3Qgc97ofKYwOu0 by stevegis_ssg@mas.to
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@mullvadnet @lostgen Money that goes to your company goes into the pocket of a man who supports Nazis. Whether you consider it your "mission" is irrelevant when that's what the money is doing.
(DIR) Post #B7ldR9FsbfTQDckJxQ by clickhere@mastodon.ie
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@mullvadnet From where did Daniel get his money? @lostgen
(DIR) Post #B7ldtMJDfMN0oSlBU8 by dzwiedziu@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnetCan you tell me how you define free speech?Just being curious \s@astro @lostgen
(DIR) Post #B7le0srN2cZpnKK2Pg by alltherum@freeradical.zone
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@mullvadnet @lostgen "fundamentally" is not, perhaps, a word you understand.
(DIR) Post #B7le2uWpo917Y7gPtg by riotmuffin@ni.hil.ist
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@mullvadnet An "equal partner" would either withdraw from a so-called partnership, or fight against it, if they truly felt that funding the xenophobic, white supremacist far right was wrong. It has nothing to do with expressing and accessing different viewpoints, and everything to do with enabling fascism. will definitely warn others against your service going forward
(DIR) Post #B7levDvjtAYDMOELfk by ariarhythmic@ohai.social
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen "We welcome and protect fascists"Fuck you too.
(DIR) Post #B7lfrEif74MgbSmCB6 by Thad@brontosin.space
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@mullvadnet "Views we disagree with", cool cool, just two follow-up questions: which specific views are you talking about, and why don't you want to say? @lostgen
(DIR) Post #B7lgEWkMFnilAsfwIa by simonzerafa@infosec.exchange
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@mullvadnet @lostgen People's private attitudes to politics actually really does impact how they do business, and if others want to do business with them.It might surprise you that probably the vast majority of your current customers probably aren't fascists.Guess you're about to find out how that works in the real world. Maybe you'll still be around with masses of Nazis as customers.Maybe you should join up with Proton and Framework and make up a little fascist cabal over there in the corner.
(DIR) Post #B7lgZskTe8VvUeujIm by unionwhore@ni.hil.ist
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen Don't pretend that you as a company have nothing to do with the donation. Where did your fascist owner get the money for the donation? He probably extracted it from you and if you continue to allow this, you will be the willing sponsor of fascism in the future.
(DIR) Post #B7liOJ3GE6zVVJJ9G4 by uncoolmouse@retro.pizza
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@mullvadnet @lostgen yeah no, this ain't it. I don't want my money going towards anyone who supports anti-immigrant "opinions". I'm very disappointed, especially since I had recommended Mulvad to friends in the past. I'll be asking for a refund
(DIR) Post #B7lj97dmTCWNiwiI52 by danielmunoz@maly.io
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Bye, bye @mullvadnet
(DIR) Post #B7ljzxZ6f1K9p7iocK by dietinghippo@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet @lostgen oh go fuck yourselves mullvad, i am so glad i didn't fall for your ads on the seattle lightrail. bigoted pieces of shit.
(DIR) Post #B7lkuNvjp5sToHDHXM by Axomamma@mastodon.online
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@mullvadnet You should be careful what you wish for.
(DIR) Post #B7lmF3c8eXymptT0ee by GroupNebula563@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet @lostgen counterpoint: eat shit. consume fecal matter
(DIR) Post #B7lmFu4zaVxPYRMmqe by msbellows@c.im
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@mullvadnet @lostgen "One of our owners wants to deport 100 children. The other wants to deport 0 children. In the end, our owners cumulatively will only deport 50 children. Compromise! And we're guilt-free!"
(DIR) Post #B7ln2DiDtfumLPkuJ6 by kaito02@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet What a disaster. A single fascist ruining the company for the rest. I hope the non-fascists in your company are doing well.
(DIR) Post #B7lnpD5d04AWbT3yvg by enigmatico@mk.absturztau.be
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@mullvadnet@mastodon.online @lostgen@det.social "Free speech" is a trojan horse for the right wing. Wherever the right wing rules there is anything but "free speech", proof is what's going on in the US right now. Public libraries are getting rid of any "woke" "lgtbi" book they deem as "propaganda", people is getting arrested for spending 5 more seconds on a speech against data centers... and more. All while AI lobists are paying money to politicians to rule in their favors.Whenever I see "free speech", I laugh. You're donating to fascists. Remember when the right wing cried when FOSS developers or game developers made any "woke" reference or banned some project maintainer for being a fascist, and they were like "politics should not belong in an open source project because this is technology and it should be free of politics!" Well, look at you now. Funding the fascists with the money people gave you. And if they won, what are you going to do? Sniff on people's traffic to see if they are leftists and send the gestapo after them?I hope the tech bubble catches up with you. The right wing should be erradicated by any means necessary and I don't care about any free speech anymore. Don't come to me crying about it, you know you don't either.
(DIR) Post #B7lpNBcf3ryhqwHNU8 by photophorez@goblin.camp
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@mullvadnet @lostgen kidnapping Black and brown people and putting them in concentration camps isn’t an “opinion” you shitlicking collaborator cowards. I hope you go as bankrupt as your morals
(DIR) Post #B7lqGxfO8WqImm9NpI by lasagne@chaos.social
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@mullvadnet @lostgen Guess I'll stop using it
(DIR) Post #B7lqeMS69NN2Jk5l3o by burnitdown@beige.party
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@mullvadnet@mastodon.online you fucked that up and we all saw it. don't make excuses.
(DIR) Post #B7lqooOd6rctsdS8cS by chrisltogo@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet @lostgen It is a shame. I canceled my subscription today. I was a happy customer for years. But i want not give my money to fascist. Bye Mullvad. Hope for your employees you get rid off your CEO before all your customers turn you their back.
(DIR) Post #B7lqqCR5DUgkj9GJNo by luci@social.devilplan.com
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@mullvadnet I guess I'm done with #Mullvad , was nice while it lasted. What a disappointment
(DIR) Post #B7lqtc6sDYUPDrRAJc by SecCatHerder@infosec.exchange
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@mullvadnet Now may be the time you want to engage a crisis communication expert. Your employees who believe in your mission deserve better.
(DIR) Post #B7lrVHs5uag5SUULb6 by inwis@nerdculture.de
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@mullvadnetEven if it is "private" the funds ultimately come from mullvad customers, or is his money earned elsewhere?@lostgen
(DIR) Post #B7ls6xBJHkSsIGRAEC by coracinho@sunbeam.city
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@mullvadnet why THE FUCK do you protect NAZI SPEECH?????????????? am i crazy here?????
(DIR) Post #B7luLLiz1zUCNKBCuu by typhon@piaille.fr
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@mullvadnet Fuck you and fuck your nazi boss.
(DIR) Post #B7lvKYPiT1zrOXLuGO by DarkAthena@beige.party
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@mullvadnet @lostgen Bullshit. Mullvad is Nazis. Daniel is a Nazi. Daniel being a Nazi is private is still being a Nazi. That’s how Mullvad is now tainted.
(DIR) Post #B7lxj1adqHBak2G6lc by kagan@wandering.shop
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@mullvadnet @lostgen If I buy a Mullvad subscription, at least some fraction of that money — my money — will go into Daniel's pocket.From there, some other small fraction will go into the coffers of a racist, queerphobic organization (the Örebro Party).I refuse to have *any* of my money go there. Therefore, I will not be giving Mullvad another cent.Is there anything unclear about that?
(DIR) Post #B7lyHGeyJr6DKFc2lM by tobiaalberti@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet Unfortunately freedom of speech, freedom of information, the right to privacy as well as the right of asylum, the principles of equality and non-discrimination, the rule of law and democracy itself will never be compatible with fascism.
(DIR) Post #B7m0sT5nG2oWVX1a5I by VileLasagna@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen yeah, nah, I'm sorry. I'm spending the remaining time on my current subscription looking for an alternative.This is a deal breaker
(DIR) Post #B7m5sJgsiGj77S7RuS by htpcnz@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen if it doesn't align with your companies values or culture or whatever bullshit term you want to say "politically correctly", this Nazi/fascist funder would've been already fired, but he is still your CEO?. So no, just at least be honest and own up to fact this agenda is exactly what organisation is openly supporting as a proxy. Same goes for Proton & its orange pedo loving CEO.
(DIR) Post #B7m7fU13DDxxHoYsCG by OtterMatic@woof.group
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@mullvadnet @lostgen perfect no notes a perfect example of how to destroy the loyalty of some of your most ardent users.
(DIR) Post #B7m8s9dkNeOFoJGdg8 by t3rcermillenium@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet @lostgen Yeah. You’ve just lost me as paying customers for the last 3 years.I don’t want my money supporting fascists, directly or indirectly.Update: just emailed to request a refund. Money talks. Find an alternative.
(DIR) Post #B7mGAH9Vt6KW08iJN2 by marshray@infosec.exchange
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@mullvadnet “Mulllvad is a political company.”“Like this massive political donation?”“No, not that donation.”
(DIR) Post #B7mJuxbIhMEYpqfCVs by witchgirls@woof.tech
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@mullvadnet What a nice corpo PR speech for "Thanks for giving us your money, we were using it to fund fascism all along! Go fuck yourself, useful idiot! :)"
(DIR) Post #B7mOMnratUyaYpohGK by rechelon@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen Support for ethnic cleansing is not some mere fucking "view" but nice that you're able to agree to disagree about other people's basic existence. https://c4ss.org/content/50151 Antifascism is the barest necessary base for any defense of free speech.Fuck this ghastly amoral shit. Your reputation is going into the fucking toilet and I'm never recommending you again.
(DIR) Post #B7mYd2xXXDRvYSywe8 by donamasta@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet @lostgen Free speech should never have been a value coopted by the far right. And now "privacy"? More than ever, free speech and privacy are needed by people without power. When the far right gets to the position of power they destroy a lot of freedoms including the beloved free speech. The suppression of media and journalists takes a brutal form. The far right does not truly love free speech or privacy. Something to consider.
(DIR) Post #B7mckMq6Q3PR3VFWoC by joxean@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnetGo to hell.@lostgen
(DIR) Post #B7mgFKznci6oB3FDWq by Captain_Jack_Sparrow@mastodon.world
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@mullvadnet @lostgen and we reserve the right not to fund fascism #techfascists #techbros #epsteinclass #mullvad #VPN #tech
(DIR) Post #B7mn5Ju1X3lRZPiHZo by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
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@joey @lostgen @mullvadnet @newt Wait #Mullvad collabs with #Tor? I didn’t know that! That’s super cool.
(DIR) Post #B7mn5KAKYQoANzLIzg by newt@stereophonic.space
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@realcaseyrollins @lostgen @mullvadnet @joey their Mullvad browser is heavily based on Tor browser. Basically, it's the same thing but without Tor.
(DIR) Post #B7mouqiNOftk3fOsBE by Tanuki@neopaquita.es
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@mullvadnet Do you know the Popper's "paradox" on tolerance? You should and kick the hell out of your racist CEO. @lostgen
(DIR) Post #B7mpesNTXwyaXJZTpw by pointlessone@status.pointless.one
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@mullvadnet a bar that serves nazis becomes a nazi bar.@lostgen @tomekw
(DIR) Post #B7mptuyaASR6wI6H4K by robinadams@mathstodon.xyz
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@mullvadnet @lostgen"We welcome anyone sharing these core values, whatever their other opinions."Liars. I have many friends who believe in free speech and privacy who are among the ones whom the Örebro party call "parasites", and who would lose their homes, jobs and families under their euphamistically named "remigration" programme.Apart from anything else, there is no way to carry out a mass deportation programme without mass surveillance, as we are seeing in the US now. Huge numbers of people in Sweden would be terrified of saying the wrong thing for fear of being thrown out of the country, It is utterly inconsistent to support mass deportation and say you support free speech and privacy.If you hate my friends, go ahead and give money to the people who want to destroy their lives. But don't then tell me that you welcome them.
(DIR) Post #B7mz7Et0Lx6i2buzBI by fabio@zirk.us
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@mullvadnet @lostgen Really? How do you plan to "protect the right to express views" for the people your CEOs party wants to get rid of? Do they get free messages on their gravestones?
(DIR) Post #B7mzIlCsWhFbT0hwHo by ojrask@piipitin.fi
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@mullvadnet @lostgen Oh hell no, it looks like you're got two right-wing CEOs running the show.Time to find alternative services.
(DIR) Post #B7mzSvXYxe8CPbELzc by DiogoConstantino@masto.pt
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@mullvadnet the issue is not Mullvad, is that we don't want to finance fascists. While that person is owner, I'll never buy from you.@lostgen
(DIR) Post #B7n1rikzpHD5ufSqBM by faduda@mastodon.ie
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@mullvadnetPlease provide details on how to apply for a refund
(DIR) Post #B7n2SmtzNTppU1LTF2 by EdwardCage@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet @lostgen Please understand that it's not only about free speech. You are funded by custommers money, and some of that money is going back to the CEOs/owners.Your custommers have a responsibility about what they do with their money.The question is: does the money of this donation comes from Mullvad, and how much?If one buys a 5€ subscription, how much of these 5€ goes to a political party that is considered as an absolute enemy to freedom by a lot of people here?
(DIR) Post #B7n6uUlAp5jt8ognk8 by barryallen2023@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen That's a really long way to say you don't actually care about basic human rights. Freedom of speech is about protecting those telling the truth, holding governments and businesses responsible and thus moving society forward. It is not about "tell lies and say whatever xenophobic, fascist and racist shit you want"
(DIR) Post #B7n7gfoJ2a4HJW7ypE by antti@2046.mywire.org
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@mullvadnet thanks but no thanks
(DIR) Post #B7n8cnWsV3Yq37gx1M by tobiaalberti@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet I think Daniel Berntsson should step down as CEO of Mullvad VPN AB.You’ll certainly lose me as a customer if that were not to happen very soon.Diversity of opinion is crucial, but as Sandro Pertini (Italian politician, journalist, partisan, and 7th President of the Italian Republic) once said: “Fascism is not an opinion; it is a crime”.
(DIR) Post #B7n8txu3BSJ596iTrM by f4grx@chaos.social
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen "mullvad tolerates Nazism"
(DIR) Post #B7n91xlLac3l1kSX9k by gg@tuffidon.de
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@mullvadnet Disappointing statement. Nothing will change as you are not powerful enough to do anything about it?
(DIR) Post #B7nEiPY7AZYD8gKWLg by pip@infosec.exchange
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen Just stop. You're only digging yourself deeper. You can oust the fascist co-CEO, or shut down. In the meantime, I won't be using Mullvad and I'll make sure everyone I know does the same.
(DIR) Post #B7nFGo7cJckLCBKygK by wcbdata@vis.social
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@mullvadnet @lostgen Yeah, no. The correct answer is either "we're sorry, we've fired him and will be carefully examining our political contributions in the future" or "we're sorry, 80% of us are leaving to fork the product and start a new company, please follow me there."
(DIR) Post #B7nHsWymhOY6wRK0Vk by 7sleepersmusic@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet @lostgen "#Remigration" would require an authority -- in this case, the Swedish government -- to determine who is and who is not "Swedish enough" to remain in the country. How will this be done without invading the privacy of each and every person within Sweden's borders? Ethnic nationalism is tyranny. It is exactly the opposite of what #Mullvad claims to fight for.
(DIR) Post #B7nMse9YWiVoxfEbB2 by nadir_ishiguro@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen Good to know. My yearly renewal was just coming up. I'll move to less fascist competition
(DIR) Post #B7nNMqKFplNbOwdZke by dirksche@social.tchncs.de
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@mullvadnet @lostgen bye bye mullvad. Do you really think I’d entrust my data to a company whose CEO supports right-wing ideology? I reckon that’ll be the end of your company.
(DIR) Post #B7nRCVoXdjsyht8KBs by musevg@23.social
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@mullvadnetMullvad once may have been something else, a long time ago.But today, Mullvad is just another Nazibar. You know what that says about you.@lostgen
(DIR) Post #B7nY9daEzqwdc61KxE by felface@infosec.exchange
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@mullvadnet if was it just a random person working there I could understand him not representing Mullvad but if the CEO does not represent the company at all then who does? I feel betrayed having recommended you for excellent standards of privacy and security. These stances are incompatible with far right politics. You have lost a customer and I will no longer recommend you.
(DIR) Post #B7noIJScmT7h4ncIfg by rasterweb@mastodon.social
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen I guess a need a new VPN provider… any recommendations?
(DIR) Post #B7ohojuBUVXVq1yz8i by XauriEL@mastodon.nz
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen "we don't personally donate to nazis, but we're totally ok with our co-owner doing so" is a hell of a way to try and defend yourselves
(DIR) Post #B7oqTcZYSSagbPL1sW by markhburton@mstdn.social
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@mullvadnet @astro @lostgen So is Daniel Berntsson taking an income from Mullvad's profits i.e. from the money subscribers pay?
(DIR) Post #B7pHngPuZV3N50cOwa by retrovg@cwb.social
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@mullvadnet @lostgen Mullvad, never again. You are as good as dead.At this point there is no way one could believe your claims about your security either.
(DIR) Post #B7pc8tKbkVuaIWWnMe by jmcs@jsantos.eu
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@mullvadnet @lostgen fascist techbros pretending to not understand the paradox of tolerance, and pretending racism is just another opinion. Pathetic.At least you admit that you want to be the Nazi bar.
(DIR) Post #B7pguYOJJ7ph4MF5cG by tomekw@functional.cafe
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@mullvadnet Fascism is not an opinion, a thing we can simply disagree with and move on. It’s a crime.How do you call a friend of a fascist?@lostgen
(DIR) Post #B7qFBYiElLJhQkqLA0 by TrashHeap64@mastodon.online
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@mullvadnet this is a really unfortunate and frankly stupid way to respond. Yes, people are entitled to their own opinion and so are the customers who pay for the service. I want no part in funding hateful nonsense. You guys have been good to me but it's time to look elsewhere.
(DIR) Post #B7vQ2Jem4Im3lOFTNI by toxy@mastodon.acc.sunet.se
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@mullvadnet @lostgen “We are a Big (fascist) Tent” tripe being rolled out again. How much “free speech” do you think we’d get if these fascists were to take power? If you’re not sure read a history book. Jesus, this crap is getting old.
(DIR) Post #B7wBz3lvSyGtQf6gAC by manu@freiburg.social
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@mullvadnetYou certainly do not welcome the views of people that want to ban VPN providers.But you do welcome the supposedly unshared views of people who want to ban actual people? Like that wouldn't impact the freedom of expression of those same people?Spoiler: Their opinions would be banned along with their bodies from your country. An action then supported by money that probably came out of your company.@lostgen
(DIR) Post #B8Xb0PJcMyW5Q2gfMu by jbowen@mast.hpc.social
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@mullvadnet @lostgen *sigh* damn it.Will you refund the remainder of what's left of my account, even if it's been more than 14 days since I paid?
(DIR) Post #B8Yhq0IlPQAvmWEYyW by 0xtero@ohai.social
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@mullvadnet @lostgen I don’t believe massive re-migration is possible without massive surveillance machine. These things go hand in hand (see current day U.S). Daniel’s private interests don’t seem to align with the company mission. Or the company’s mission is not aligned with the co-ownerships interest. Either way, it’s not a sustainable position for a political company. As an immigrant who has built a life in this country, I find the dual motives worrying.