Post B7jZCtm0aB7012nu8u by ProcessParsnip@mastodon.ie
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 (DIR) Post #B7jJ6W3oEdSDT3450y by p@raru.re
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       I know you are a charitable individual, and I respect that, but I don't agree with forcing people to be charitable, which is what this is@codinghorror
       
 (DIR) Post #B7jUkWC4G42sxZCkgi by rpbook@gts.phillipsuk.org
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       @p @codinghorror it's only charity if you consider any form of welfare state spending to be charity.But also, the giver benefits financially:for every €1 Ireland invested in the artists during the three-year pilot, €1.39 was returned to the economyI'd give a lot more to charity if I got £1.39 back for every £1 I gave. At that point, it's simply a sensible investment.
       
 (DIR) Post #B7jUkWQFPLO7fXq4n2 by p@raru.re
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       I consider non-consensual taxation as forced charity yes, so, if you don't understand consent then that's ok I guess@rpbook
       
 (DIR) Post #B7jUnGOLSwsSosFxQW by p@raru.re
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       uhuh, because you get to decide sure, dictator@thief_of_fire
       
 (DIR) Post #B7jZCtm0aB7012nu8u by ProcessParsnip@mastodon.ie
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       @p This is such a shit take.@rpbook
       
 (DIR) Post #B7jbDjA1j1hdIcYrWS by rpbook@gts.phillipsuk.org
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       @p consent is simple when it's between a few individuals. It's a lot more complex on a population level.Since Ireland is a democracy, there's an argument for saying that the population consent to what the government do, since they chose the government. It's not that simple, of course.But then, it's also not as simple as saying that taxes are charity, which appears to be your position.
       
 (DIR) Post #B7jbDjMQytcxv6MlrU by p@raru.re
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       yeah no sorry, a representative democracy is not a democracy, the will of the people are not relevant @rpbook
       
 (DIR) Post #B7kubi4XW4u3A16V4i by ahltorp@mastodon.nu
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       @p @rpbook "non-consensual taxation" is the opposite of charity. Charity is alms, and comes with an expectation of gratitude.