Post B6tquW6TEupdf8nQZ6 by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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(DIR) Post #B6tqGluv1dWf7mRPTE by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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i feel very cringe sharing an article i read but this really rreally felt like the perfect encapsulation of my feelings on drag and the “queer community”https://open.substack.com/pub/bundleofstyx/p/queer-culture-has-a-womanface-problem?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web
(DIR) Post #B6tqKCKnGMBpvQB4Ea by freakshow@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage not gonna lie I think that despite there being very strong and convincing speech in this article it has some glaring issues. I understand the gut reaction described in the first paragraph, I'm a trans woman who has gone to drag shows and felt similar. But there is more than that to this, and especially then it came more from jealousy and my own struggles with presentation than anything. Drag exists because the early queer community, especially gay men, experienced constant attachment to femininity by the greater public, and often internally as well. Nobody is actively mocking women, instead putting on a display of this strange cultural position that they were forced into. Their masculinity is refused and they are seen by the greater public as more women than men. This is an expression of the feelings that come with that, as well as their own interactions with gender (which for queens especially are often complex).The comparison to a minstrel show is obviously flawed because queer folks aren't a powerful class, instead they're a group of people expressing gender through an outlet that feels safe. Drag is self expression rather than parody is what I've found through knowing queens.Not to mention, every point in this article sounds like a terf talking point without the context. This is just silly, and the queer community shouldn't hold back folks getting strange with gender
(DIR) Post #B6tqKsKZ7axmAsOTi4 by freakshow@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage though I do think the thing about the community being hostile towards the very understandable discomfort some early trans folk get from drag is a good point, and there should be more discussion about how *any* form of this (femboys, crossdressers, etc.) can be incredibly upsetting to transfolk (and in many cases, guilty of the thing the articles are placing on queens).There are things to inspect here but "drag bad" isn't really a helpful takeaway.
(DIR) Post #B6tqglnu4JjiIpYZKy by patchuun@social.xenofem.me
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@holymoly @haematophage @freakshow didn't even notice it was tara knight at first. hard pass, sorry. also I agree with everything freakshow said
(DIR) Post #B6tqglzxLVNSuDCC7k by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@patchuun @holymoly @freakshow i don’t know who she is and I read this article without even knowing the author’s name so unless she’s on the epstein flight lists and cia payroll I don’t think the author is actually very relevant
(DIR) Post #B6tqgmAwgeATSIKyFk by patchuun@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @holymoly @freakshow she's a grifter who, among other things, scammed people out of a bunch of money under a phony premise that feds were coming after her, admitted after getting caught to having had chatgpt write for her, and "wrote" a really tasteless and ableist screed about "dumping your puppygirl". I think her credibility is well and fully cooked, another Brianna Wu in waiting
(DIR) Post #B6tqgmP7pvViAGyIM4 by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@patchuun @holymoly @freakshow ok that’s pretty shitty but what credibility is involved here? I shared it because everything in the article resonated with me, not because I think she’s an authority on the situation.
(DIR) Post #B6tqgmap8QrskYRdaa by patchuun@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @holymoly @freakshow I'm just generally not really interested in reading something from someone I know to be a bad actor, and which I have reason to suspect of being robopoop. There are surely better critiques of drag out there from better and more credible theorists. Admittedly my stance on drag and even femboys is pretty soft, the latter probably making me an outlier among xenosisters; I lean chill on both
(DIR) Post #B6tqgmjKcnfpAwQQqm by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@patchuun @holymoly @freakshow I read the article and there weren’t really any AI smells. And I’m not saying it’s never justified or that you have to read anything ultimately, but rejecting a critique because you don’t like the critic, especially when people who have nothing to do with the critic share it on the merits of the article alone, just seems kind of wrong
(DIR) Post #B6tqkTrkhfTdpN7tGi by patchuun@social.xenofem.me
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@hjh @freakshow @haematophage @holymoly based
(DIR) Post #B6tqkU5DtaFiV9QeGW by patchuun@social.xenofem.me
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@hjh @freakshow @haematophage @holymoly I think some people get so jaded that their "transfeminism" kinda ends up wrapping back around to conservatism; it gets tiring. we're supposed to be fighting for freedom here, not a different flavor of tyranny
(DIR) Post #B6tqkULstda1KpDxEe by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@patchuun @holymoly @freakshow @hjh transfeminism is for transsexual women. the people who can burn some clothes and throw out some makeup before answering the knock at the door aren’t going to hide us in their attic
(DIR) Post #B6tqmNnaESFvac5E9Y by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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holy moly doing pride discourse , wormsite is so backRE: https://brain.worm.pink/objects/3ad2e9ef-4b79-4b53-9959-1ecf31f52a13
(DIR) Post #B6tquVKy5WpnHoZUWW by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@freakshow the article explicitly acknowledges the origins of drag and that it’s significant in queer history and it has been a refuge for queer people in the past. it is less aggressive than I am in responding to that information though, since my response would be “so fucking what?”. I don’t give a shit that 50 years ago it was a safe haven for gender expression and gay people. It’s not the 70s anymore. My great uncle was legally married to his husband before I was born. I’m sure the drag shows he went to in 1972 were events in a meaningfully united queer community in a society that harshly punished all divergence from cishet norms. It’s 2026, though. Queer people still aren’t a powerful class, but cis queers certainly have a lot more power than trans people, and trans women are the least powerful trans people. Transfemininity is the ultimate demon of the current political landscape, and cis queers are more than happy to throw us under the bus to maintain the acceptance that they’ve already won. Cis gay men can kiss their husbands on daytime television. Cis gay men are conservative MPs. I don’t really know how to finish this train of thought clearly but fundamentally I guess I’m just disagreeing with the idea that drag is progressive anymore. It’s no longer people who are crushed under the heel of the same boot finding ways to express themselves. Cis queers do in fact oppress trans women, and they use drag to excuse it. Either they point to outlandish scary drag done by other cissexual queers and call it proof of our degeneracy, or they berate us for not being more like the reasonable drag queens who only offend them as part of an act. The modern situation is like if your childhood best friend and you both got bullied for being fat in elementary school, but they didn’t stop making the self deprecating and insulting fat jokes when they lost weight.
(DIR) Post #B6tquVZVDUSc0tN6B6 by patchuun@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @freakshow Either they point to outlandish scary drag done by other cissexual queers and call it proof of our degeneracy,That drag is demonized even by queers as "degenerate" makes me more, not less, supportive of it. Respectability politics get us nowhere
(DIR) Post #B6tquVkUYdFcYyVsJ6 by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@patchuun @freakshow “waow I’m so hecking woke, I think cis people putting on puppet shows where we’re disgusting monsters and then to convince people we should be stripped of all our rights is AWESOMESAUCE because I think we should be perceived as disgusting monsters”
(DIR) Post #B6tquVv7v5l35xUMsq by patchuun@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @freakshow I don't think drag queens who dress up as demons or monsters or whatever are doing so to portray trans women as such. I think they are just having fun playing dress up. That conservatives seethe about them and associate them with us as an excuse to seethe harder changes nothing. Every drag queen could swear it off forever and conservatives would still seethe about us, they are simply ontologically butthurt by our existence.
(DIR) Post #B6tquW6TEupdf8nQZ6 by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@patchuun @freakshow Frankly, patchuun, this kind of stuff is exactly what I meant when I made that post about leftist calvinism
(DIR) Post #B6tquWIAXQBoFQGlnc by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@patchuun @freakshow fewer people think I have a right to exist in 2026 than in 2020. At what point do you accept that maybe, just maybe, people aren’t born with all their political opinions predetermined?
(DIR) Post #B6tquWSntshEmPFGNM by freakshow@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @patchuun opinions aren't predetermined but respectabilitykaf isn't really the right outcome. Maybe opinions are influenced by the mass propaganda campaign happening rn against transfolk, rather than actions by queers representing us badly.
(DIR) Post #B6tqwUP8WkFkyMT3b6 by freakshow@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @patchuun the propaganda *isn't* made for them. They take our expressions and turn it into propaganda. No matter what we do as long as it is different from the cishet nuclear family it will ALWAYS feed the propaganda campaign. The real solution isn't "being a good trans", it's working to spread information to counter propaganda and interacting with those in your community.
(DIR) Post #B6tqwUdfehsZhRGfFg by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@freakshow @patchuun do you know what counters the propaganda really well? do you know what makes people open their minds? seeing proof that trans people are just like them. i don’t care if it’s not fucking woke! put pretty trans women on normal TV shows! do a modern family type show with hunter schafer! all of my conservative relatives gender me correctly and have for years because most transphobia is nominal and countered by actually knowing a trans person that doesn’t behave like the caricatures presented by fearmongerers. all this bullshit about “being a good trans doesn’t change their mind” is the exact opposite of my lived experience
(DIR) Post #B6tqwUv2c7m2ZJOXKK by yohan@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @freakshow @patchuun as much as I also want "normal" trans characters to be more prominent in media. Bad take
(DIR) Post #B6tqwV8Vo2Y7F5hIK8 by yohan@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @freakshow @patchuun I dont even fully disagree with you on that specifically. We need more representations of normal ass queer people. But I do not under any circumstances believe that assimilation is at all the correct corse of action.
(DIR) Post #B6tqwVJ9AV3Xm4fmts by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@yohan @freakshow @patchuun what is the argument against assimilation? it’s worked wonders for cis gay men.
(DIR) Post #B6tqwVWGNjY2QkoGLQ by OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @freakshow @patchuun @yohan my argument against assimilation is that it didn’t really work for gay men because all they got was fascist and tbh I don’t wanna be a faggot fascist
(DIR) Post #B6tqwVnzJpj5Jj6PyK by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat @freakshow @patchuun @yohan you’re so right, I’d rather be killed for being trans than be trans and have bad opinions
(DIR) Post #B6tqwW2sQTdU3u4JBA by OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @freakshow @patchuun @yohan yeah but like unironically? I don’t want to sell out my beliefs to survive I would rather die tbh
(DIR) Post #B6tqwWFHgLYogNsDWC by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat @freakshow @patchuun @yohan ok good for you. I’m not suicidal though, I actually really really like being alive. I want to continue being alive and a woman more than I want to have internet points for being a good person
(DIR) Post #B6tqwWS2utljJxqPPU by OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @freakshow @patchuun @yohan this isn’t about internet points this is about not wanting to be what every faggot who survived in Neo liberal society is . There is a reason pride has a whole month and trans day of visibility is like … a day
(DIR) Post #B6tqwWkpn2nWGEdPhA by OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @freakshow @patchuun @yohan also I am NOT suicidal
(DIR) Post #B6tqwWwt4ERGrcH2Tw by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat @freakshow @patchuun @yohan martyrs are suicidal
(DIR) Post #B6tqwX8aMjnRRtkNiS by OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @freakshow @patchuun @yohan It’s not a martyr complex to not want to be erased
(DIR) Post #B6tqwXIrkW1HxmYajw by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat @freakshow @patchuun @yohan what you call erasure I call “living in society” im not a super special girl who must be recognised as uniquely moral and good for being queer
(DIR) Post #B6tqwXVyxkVmcSh4BU by OneRatOneVerySmallTrenchCoat@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @freakshow @patchuun @yohan having every aspect of the trans or queer experience be modified to fit into heteronormative society is erasure by definition
(DIR) Post #B6tr1yOATPV5Pod5I8 by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@patchuun @freakshow and do you think that the people doing blackface weren’t sometimes just doing it to have fun?
(DIR) Post #B6tr1yaDkb8q1CGi4u by patchuun@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @freakshow it's not at all the same thing. The function of blackface and minstrelsy is to reinforce racial boundaries, the function of drag is to subvert and destroy gender boundaries
(DIR) Post #B6tr1ylZ4QDQaNZllA by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@patchuun @freakshow The function of drag is to reinforce gender boundaries by presenting their transgression as an absurd object of mockery.
(DIR) Post #B6tr6KDBHL8oFvZ7eS by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@freakshow @patchuun and more to the point, I’ve never seen an argument against respectability politics that is compatible with the idea of a democracy. You don’t want to be respected? Okay, what do you think happens when the vast majority of the population doesn’t respect you?
(DIR) Post #B6tr6KNSf7MeloNKfw by patchuun@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @freakshow do you think gangsta rap is to blame for racism?
(DIR) Post #B6u2AsewFBJhkPvKYi by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@holymoly saviour of this god damn shitty website
(DIR) Post #B6u2CLqRDbaOYR0IcK by Erato_Heti@social.xenofem.me
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@fiore the fucked up part to is that shes kinda right wtf i didnt know the holler moller could cook :gigachad:
(DIR) Post #B6u2RWEirfXj7xaxyS by patchuun@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @freakshow this is just naked assimilationism now. "bad" transes deserve dignity and rights too. Good for you that you have the privilege of being "one of the good ones", but the liberation I'm after is unconditional. To me, none of us are free until all of us are
(DIR) Post #B6u2RWYZfrQG7Wsouu by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@patchuun @freakshow do you think gradual change doesn’t exist? do you think they legalised gay sex at the same time they legalised gay marriage? why are trans politics the only area where people pretend that every social change has been enacted immediately wholesale? There were a hundred years between the Emancipation Proclamation and the Civil Rights Act. There were 40 years between the criminalisation of the slave trade in Ontario and the end of slavery outright across the British Empire. There were 30 between the decriminalisation of gay sex in Canada and the legalisation of gay marriage in Ontario.Why the fuck do we think that we get to choose public opinion?
(DIR) Post #B6u2RWnSmVKerhqi7k by patchuun@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @freakshow There were a hundred years between the Emancipation Proclamation and the Civil Rights ActAnd during that period, millions of innocent people wrongfully suffered. And we still have police violence, we still have de facto segregation, we still have racial profiling and discrimination. Are we just supposed to be okay with that because maybe someday in the future things will be better? Go read Letter From a Birmingham Jail.
(DIR) Post #B6u2RX1zuSxTameJmK by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@patchuun @freakshow > millions of innocent people wrongly suffered and we still have police violence and racial discrimination Wow, you’re telling me this now for the very first time. This is terrible. Guess Lincoln should have just not abolished slavery if it wasn’t going to fix every single thing. The civil rights act was worthless because people continued being racist. You’re so fuckng right, why did I ever think that things could improve without being perfect?
(DIR) Post #B6u2RXCzFbkU8rn5uK by patchuun@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @freakshow I'm a communist. I think we can and should do better than reformism. It seems we are not going to see eye to eye on this
(DIR) Post #B6u2RXljARXPsc2q3c by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@patchuun @freakshow you’re an idealist crab in the bucket who would rather no crab escapes if they can’t all climb out simultaneously
(DIR) Post #B6u2RXw0YDlGOUr356 by patchuun@social.xenofem.me
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@haematophage @freakshow I'm a dialectical materialist who wants to destroy the bucket rather than escape on my own and leave the others, and those who come after them, to die
(DIR) Post #B6u2RY5vxJhWtHUyYK by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
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@patchuun @freakshow crabs outside of the bucket can help crabs leave the bucket. that’s also an option