Post B6nEgvHHsmCSTlBegy by Marakus@poa.st
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 (DIR) Post #B6mw78cR0MwuFurhp2 by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       I keep hearing people say AI is the next industrial revolution but they never explain the mechanism by which it is soin the previous three cases you can point to one specific thing and why it made such a differencesteam power -> harnessing vast energy reserves in the earthinterchangeable parts -> assembly lines, reduced need for skilled labor, parts are reusable between assembliescomputers -> reduced human error, high speed controls and sensing humans aren't capable of, massive productivity increaseso now we have "artificial intelligence". what can AI tools they do? well they can shit out words and code and images really fast... but we already had an abundance of all of those things. there are more books available than anyone could read in 50 lifetimes. there's more art than you could ever view if you dedicated your life to it. if someone wrote a really good piece of code, it was already free (technologically speaking) to copy it forever, infinity times. making more words, noise, pictures, and code was never a problem. millions of people do it for free, just for funthe only answer I see is the next industrial revolution is about getting rid of human labor, period
       
 (DIR) Post #B6mwbV7Lv5vqinnyIi by newmodel@shin.mugicha.club
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       >the next industrial revolution is about getting rid of human labor, periodYes. My friends who work at McKinsey have said as such. The goal is to not have to employ anyone.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6mwcw3tEB2oZprxlA by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @newmodel what do they imagine is going to happen when nobody has a job
       
 (DIR) Post #B6mxncz6b2CKY9IHWy by newmodel@shin.mugicha.club
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       They don't know and they don't care. UBI is touted as a replacement for employment, but who knows if anyone will pay for that
       
 (DIR) Post #B6mxndELgMOJJQQSI4 by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @newmodel the obvious next step is depopulation. they think they can kill off 99% of us when they don't need us anymore
       
 (DIR) Post #B6mxthgi1SUOsGaPhI by beekeeper@poa.st
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel even in the bull case for AI and AI investments, robotics has about 10 years of catching up to do at a minimum for significant human labour replacements.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6mxtht7HKPjUkOK2K by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @beekeeper @newmodel even if the holy grail of a self-maintaining, self-replicating robot was achieved, it would be lost in one generation
       
 (DIR) Post #B6mz3gL3ze0lXXme4u by newmodel@shin.mugicha.club
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       Duh. Who would pay for anything they don't need anymore? The simile my friend used was 'horses after the automobile'.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6mz3gZF8vM0FWPyBE by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @newmodel lol they're paying for us? how? that's a truly incredible level of arrogance. these people create nothing and add value to nothing
       
 (DIR) Post #B6mz4F8saw3tTtLuRk by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
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       @deprecated_ii E = MC² + AI.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6mzOsZhh8ThZSjtKK by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
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       @newmodel @deprecated_ii makes sense and is clearly what'd count as a next step.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6mzRP4FrHbmvOEUbY by newmodel@shin.mugicha.club
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       You've said this same thing for four years now. It's no longer 2022, the tech is proven. Bullets will not stop this sort of economic transformation. Please make yourself important so you're not left in the cold when things come crashing down
       
 (DIR) Post #B6mzRPMgkkLzqYrDKy by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @newmodel :niggaeyeroll: oh brotherwhat amazing things have been created after years of "10-100x" gains? point to one
       
 (DIR) Post #B6mzs5HvVRK3OlLlY0 by badneighbor@poa.st
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       What's proven? What has AI produced? Specifically, how has AI improved putting food on the table?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n1MY5l4x2NNCkV1M by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @newmodel @deprecated_ii You and I know a guy making a business with Codex. It works, and it’s only going to get better.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n1MYIWJVFI0migue by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel yeah there are millions of "founders" now. who cares? where's my flying car, where's my moon base, where's something new that isn't just a rube goldberg word generator?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n21W5ZQm6v2ACDMu by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel I mean they’re working on a moon base. There are advancements being made for people who care about them and pay attention.Starlink is a good example. Another example are the companies who run a fleet of satellites that process data in space and then beam it down to Earth in a couple minutes. Tell that to someone in the 60s.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n21WOiHbQHzX9VCq by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel LLMs didn't do any of that shit
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n2vLfjLaV6wYjSjo by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel Do you mean that literally as in “the pencil didn’t draw any blueprints?”I don’t know what to tell ya. It’ll get better over time. It’ll do more and more stuff. It’s already doing more and more stuff compared to last year.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n2vLqigjI7UdsEro by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel it'll magically get better because that's what technology does. it just gets better all the time forever
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n3hupPwMKhsXQDMu by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel "it'll magically get better because that's what technology does. it just gets better all the time forever"
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n3hv17ErgsSotYbQ by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel you can't describe the mechanism by which it will improve because you don't understand the technology. you simply have blind faith in it because you saw a few tricksit's extremely tiresome listening to this shit from people who don't understand how anything works
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n4FicRq9MhrHTS9Q by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel I gave you a use case and you said "so what?"
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n4FiskrWPQfr6TZI by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel what use case? some guy using it for business? where's the 100x in that? is this guy like a total fucking retard who needs a helmet to traverse his own home without brain damage and the 100x is the tool letting him run a business?even in the one thing LLMs are kinda okay at -- writing code -- literally nothing of note has been accomplished. there are no great new products. there are no groundbreaking advancements. the best they've got is "I rewrote X in Y"
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n5GBwCvxRKk7VQ9o by monsterislandcolonizer@poa.st
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       The use case is fabricating court cases to use as citations to get niggers out of murder charges
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n5tQcqG8axac9oG0 by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel Maybe if you’re a poopybutt nothing looks good to you ever. My friend’s certainly happy and lots of people are making money.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n5tR7KQmyv7AQ9mC by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel I'm soooo sorry for being an engineer, not a parasitic merchant
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n61ME2VD5qGAKwu8 by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel It’s okay, I forgive you.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n61MQRl51Ase8rFA by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel I do not return the sentiment. how much money is involved has jack shit to do with capability. stay in your lane
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n6WzCPeHz46zeq7k by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel You don’t know jack shit about capability and that’s why you’ve been waiting for a bubble to burst for six years. If you believed what you said you’d buy puts. Fuck off.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n6WzNky73egAxto0 by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel "if you knew anything you'd be rich" yeah very jewish mentality, I'm shocked to hear itwhat's your background again? PhD in machine learning? if not, you can cram it up your ass
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n82WQQGVr45joPZ2 by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel Yeah if you knew anything you'd be rich. You can actually just make accurate predictions again and again and it turns into money. That's how many people have become billionaires. People have become rich off of shorts there's nothing to stop you bro. Or you could poopoo everything until you're old and the world has moved on without you. I don't know why you would be so hostile towards it in the first place unless you had something worth not losing that was directly threatened by it, which considering you're not rich, probably isn't the case.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n82WdXTkLYkPwt0a by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel I'm not motivated by money, dumb shit. I don't build my life around money. I don't dream about money. I don't obsess about money. I don't spend every waking money imagining how I can get more money. It's fucking pathetic to live like that. All I need is a comfortable income and meaningful work. I'm not interested in selling my soul for a few pieces of silver.I'm not going to explain to you what I dislike about AI shit. You don't deserve it and you wouldn't get it anyway. You're a materialistic twat and a spiritual jew.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n8C63FB4G5BrXHu4 by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel You've been bitching about AI since it opened, I don't need you to write an essay in this thread.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n8C6DAaACLgeBDNI by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel So how the fuck did you miss my points so thoroughly? What a retard. Was I writing at too high a grade level for you?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n8TFQNa7NfBRXH2u by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel I'm sorry you lack all common sense and someone has to explain to you that AI is useful tech and it's getting better. I figured you'd have some grasp of how new technology is rolled out. You set your standard at "there's nothing *I personally* like right now so it's bad" and there's no way to argue about that, that's just poopooing something and it's your own problem. I explained my own thoughts and gave examples and you called me a Jewish merchant. Okay bro I'm happy you never have to worry about money ever again. That's great for you.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n8TFd8ofaZp1VSwC by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel run along, nigger
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n8g4Befoyg5zlEy8 by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel Have fun getting left behind.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n8g4TjabRJ04Dg9I by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel yeah I won't be, dumb shit
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n9KtPJemmUXIcO9Y by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel If you genuienly believed that, you wouldn't be mad.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n9Ktd8pNq9EB5Qhc by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel >U MAD BROtruly the call of the good faith interlocutor. crazy how arrogant having a chatbot slave makes peopleI'm the guy who can fix the robots, you fucking idiot. I can care about more than my own future
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n9hVQB0EVsnxns8m by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel Bro you started being bad faith in this thread as soon as I gave you an example. You have not a single leg to stand on. You just hate AI because you've made it your personality for a half a decade, you can't engage in good faith with the topic even in your own head.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n9hVdeC9HxTk6d8a by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel you are literally too dumb to understand my position, as you have made clear repeatedly. probably why you're so enamored of AI
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n9qtgGAzC0eNnw0m by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel I've seen your position spewed on the timeline for years bro everyone knows what your position is lmao.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6n9qu5me5bpvXkJnM by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel smash that mute button then nigger. like I'm gonna miss your brilliant insights?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nA6BoB3moLDSndy4 by binkle@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel being charitable to them I think it's probably something like "we won't really need jobs or economics at all anymore once human labor is eliminated because everyone will have enough of everything"unfortunately it fails to understand the nature of economics as inherently tied to the desires of man to impact their surroundings (among other things)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nA6BySRZ2BjLbqzY by RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co
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       @binkle @deprecated_ii @newmodel they also keep saying that for every new industrial revolution and nobody even attempts it. Remember when income tax was going to be replaced by tariffs? You just end up getting hammered by both
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nA6deZX5lTZmWMsq by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel You can always admit you were wrong Deprecated.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nA6dsOhgp8GezPQu by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel guy can't show a single example of a 100x product after 4 years and trillions of dollars spent and I'm the one who's wrong
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nACUmbQSsPno4PIW by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel Yeah. Keep seething about it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nACVB3xWRV1fVwQK by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel show me the examplewhat is itpoint to it
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nATG8V8SkVIbJ4BE by binkle@clubcyberia.co
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       @RustyCrab @deprecated_ii @newmodel but
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nArKgRsaQMLwfFEe by RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co
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       @hazlin @binkle @deprecated_ii @newmodel one thing I haven't seen discussed much with the UBI debate is that you don't really want people having infinite free time. The Japanese are fully aware of this because they give bullshit jobs to people on welfare that they just have to show up to and do something useless. We obviously can't do that in the states
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nB3m9rYX4F2RM7cm by binkle@clubcyberia.co
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       @RustyCrab @hazlin @deprecated_ii @newmodel oh CAN'T we
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nB6B2E2GUWltvcuG by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel You were bitching about this on year one. Anthropic's at $120B revenue, ahead of expectations. Tell them they're going to go out of business soon. Software is one of the largest industries in the world and AI is already one of the best coders after four years. It's going to beat you lmao. You are not going to be the big man in the industry for long.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nB6BEHJS8HNHZFh2 by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel "we're losing money on every sale, but we're making up for it in volume" hope your buddy isn't taking business advice from youstill waiting on that example of an amazing new product LLMs have allowed people to create
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nB6cECvp7R6sk4pc by RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co
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       @binkle @deprecated_ii @hazlin @newmodel i'm farming RuneScape gold for the cause
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nBx1cJmVu6uW0hzE by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel You've never seen a business scale up before? Is Amazon just a bookshop? Facebook just for cat videos? They're on track to profitability and they're not burning their money faster than they can sustain.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nBx1ruqWNfgtJAIa by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel again, no point in explaining to you things that you're too dumb to understandstill waiting on that amazing new product people have made with years of 10-100x productivity gains
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nDbCtjMIyjR1sZ96 by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @deprecated_ii @newmodel Palantir. The US government threatening to blacklist Anthropic over not agreeing to unrestricted cooperation. Drone warfare. Logistics. List off everything AI is being integrated into. What's the 100x product of the internal combustion engine four years after it was invented. You can't be serious bro.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nDbD4MilU9y0r3iq by deprecated_ii@poa.st
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       @Griffith @newmodel Yeah, brilliant fucking work on that AI targeting. Iran's missile capabilities still at 95% or so are they? Thousands of decoys and dozens of paintings bombed that will never harm anyone again. Hundreds of schoolgirls killed.Drone warfare goes back to the 1940s. Logistics go back to the first time a guy wanted to take a group from point A to point B and we used to be BETTER AT IT. WWII logistics were a fucking miracle and now we can't even make artillery shells after 4 years of proxy war with Russia.The fact that AI is being crammed into everything does not make it a confirmed positive addition. It's just the trendy thing to do, and is in fact being mandated by the pentagon.Have the last word and claim victory. I'm muting your ass for good.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nEgvHHsmCSTlBegy by Marakus@poa.st
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       I am really annoyed that technology which costed 1k times more than atom bombs and rocketry can be fooled by a painting on the floor, looney toons style.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nJg3GbC5kcjmGjWi by nicole@kiwifarms.cc
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       @Griffith @deprecated_ii @newmodel I gotta ignore this stupid nigger. If anyone take his advice, they're a fucking idiot.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6nJg3TMQdxXNMEvQ0 by Griffith@clubcyberia.co
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       @nicole @deprecated_ii @newmodel AI people are already beating non-AI people.