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(DIR) Post #B6ljrXhEbgR8n4wo9w by JeremiahFieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place
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So my systems recently updated to rsync 3.4.3, and as soon as that happened my backup system - which does incremental backups using multiple --compare-dest= arguments - started to fail on anything but a full backup.Revert to 3.4.1 and it works.So I go look at the source in GitHub to see what might have changed, because there doesn't seem to be anything relevant in the changelog.Since 3.4.1, 36 commits by "tridge and claude"Oh for fuck's sakes.
(DIR) Post #B6m5uknsWrorImzXcm by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@JeremiahFieldhaven figures
(DIR) Post #B6m7U30WwG33qnIonQ by cap_ybarra@beige.party
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@JeremiahFieldhaven fork everything, it's all slop now and needs new caretakers
(DIR) Post #B6m8CHIPAzawuGkoLI by gryphonmyers@mastodon.social
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@JeremiahFieldhaven https://aidirtylist.info/citations/andrew-tridge-pushes-flurry-of-code-slop-to-rsync-respository/ thanks for catching that. I've cited your post here
(DIR) Post #B6m8CHUSSBEhVeOR84 by azonenberg@ioc.exchange
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@gryphonmyers @JeremiahFieldhaven checking the GitHub repo i see a lot of recent regressions... Lovely
(DIR) Post #B6mB2U6R0OSnaqB0xE by mavu@mastodon.social
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@cap_ybarra @JeremiahFieldhaven on rsync, this is scary. It's getting to a point where just stopping updates for a while on crucial systems seems safer than applying them.
(DIR) Post #B6mB7LIv96IfkjKjho by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@mavu @cap_ybarra @JeremiahFieldhaven basically, we already stopped upgrading to newer versions where ensloppification happens, but it’s now being backported under the guise of security fixes, ill though-out ones (or not-at-all in the case of slop). This is a problem.rsync is so critical, I wonder if there are people versed enough in it who could hard-fork the last workable pre-slop version and maintain it from there. No need for big fancy new features, just keep it working and safe and secure. (openrsync seems to be both incomplete and unportable at this point.)
(DIR) Post #B6mBCNam4BxyIS5Oqm by rf@mas.to
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@mavu @cap_ybarra @JeremiahFieldhaven 3.4.3 looks like mostly security changes (couple bugs say security fixes broke their thing, so it might be the case for your problem). If you only ever rsync with trusted machines, you're all good, but more broadly sitting out future security fixes is less appealing than sitting out future features
(DIR) Post #B6mBCNpJC9an1Wt0VM by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@rf @mavu @cap_ybarra @JeremiahFieldhaven not if they come with regressions :/ then you’d rather mitigate instead of applying the broken patches.
(DIR) Post #B6mblt4fbdeSsef5EG by me@social.taupehat.com
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@JeremiahFieldhaven Tridge is using AI? LOL, that's damn funny to be honest. Also I thought he only worked on core Samba code. Maybe he should only work on core Samba code.
(DIR) Post #B6mcEJaUck3ZDb6NSS by byte@awawa.club
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@JeremiahFieldhaven the amount of crap that’s broken after 3.4.1 is just wow :) https://github.com/RsyncProject/rsync/issues
(DIR) Post #B6mrN6usbRkxq1I1c8 by billchenchina@bcom.moe
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@mirabilos @mavu @cap_ybarra @JeremiahFieldhaven There is also github.com/gokrazy/rsync which i haven't tested yet.
(DIR) Post #B6mrN7HZF5u8yNu8ye by xdej@mamot.fr
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@billchenchinahttps://codeberg.org/small-hack/open-slopware#file-transferring lists the following rsync alternative as LLM free: https://github.com/kristapsdz/openrsync@mirabilos @mavu @cap_ybarra @JeremiahFieldhaven
(DIR) Post #B6mrN7TyUxpTari3Jg by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@xdej @billchenchina @mavu @cap_ybarra @JeremiahFieldhaven which I mentioned above already, with reasons
(DIR) Post #B6nrv9lQiTqNfp41gW by leah@blahaj.social
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@JeremiahFieldhaven this? https://github.com/RsyncProject/rsync/issues/915
(DIR) Post #B6nrv9xTzfU8HCheTI by datenwolf@chaos.social
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@leah Leah, you're far more active in the Voidlinux than I am; what's the state of Voidlinux regarding upstream AI slop? Any chance for there to be a void-repo-nonslop, or rather a void-repo-sloppy ?
(DIR) Post #B6nrvABJAGXmy5Ah1M by leah@blahaj.social
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@datenwolf In general we keep packaging what upstream deems stable.
(DIR) Post #B6nrvAKAdJdJPZJlpo by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@leah @datenwolf 😿
(DIR) Post #B6nrzz8TewwM9t99cW by mav@masto.hackers.town
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@JeremiahFieldhavenOh damn it all. Tridge has fallen
(DIR) Post #B6ns4gD9RqaOueZUo4 by Doomed_Daniel@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@mav @JeremiahFieldhaven 🎶 Andrew Tridge has fallen down,fallen down, fallen down, ... 🎶
(DIR) Post #B6ns9H9S2xy6di246i by sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@JeremiahFieldhaven Christ if it’s coming for rsync of all things software is clearly done
(DIR) Post #B6ns9HIfUhLD6ILQTQ by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@sinbad @JeremiahFieldhaven I have so much fatigue wrt. working on my FOSS projects right now, considering the entire ecosystem is dying and I can but watch from the side
(DIR) Post #B6o6XQTUQx0vrZobD6 by jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
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@mirabilos @mavu @cap_ybarra @JeremiahFieldhaven "versed enough" and "getting versed enough" are both options, IMHO.It's likely fine to take some time with the next round of updates.
(DIR) Post #B6o6XQiNXavKbkmUPw by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@jens @dalias @mavu @cap_ybarra @JeremiahFieldhaven I am receiving signals that people might be on it, though distro packagers are likely to be too wary of switching upstreams, unfortunately (but having both would at least allow users more choice to avoid bad-quality slop)
(DIR) Post #B6o6ckCCXRGUTWGS4u by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@billchenchina @mavu @cap_ybarra @JeremiahFieldhaven that’s not portable
(DIR) Post #B8sfQwKqfVJlIgFGls by tinsuke@mas.to
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@JeremiahFieldhaven just passing by to suggest people take a look at openrsync, initially implemented for OpenBSD:https://man.openbsd.org/openrsyncAnd Apple has already been using it for macOS since Sequoia (15):https://appleinsider.com/inside/macos-sequoia/tips/what-you-should-know-about-apples-switch-from-rsync-to-openrsync
(DIR) Post #B8sfQwcZbbUoBeXQOm by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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@tinsuke @JeremiahFieldhaven though https://github.com/kristapsdz/openrsync/issues/35 indicates it’s not safe to build upon it