Post B6hZPWcHFhh19un55U by Ketakater@vivaldi.net
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 (DIR) Post #B6hXH8gk8GDOirkkUa by delta@chaos.social
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       Reminder: There are no accounts in the classic sense anywhere with #chatmail or #deltachat. It's all private profiles on end user devices which co-ordinate in a #p2p fashion.  Chat profiles *use* email (relay) addresses for transporting messages through a federated e2ee-restricted SMTP network. A chat profile or chat group has zero data on the server.  It's radically different from classic email servers, Whatsapp, Signal, XMPP and Matrix servers which host and control chat identity.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6hZPWcHFhh19un55U by Ketakater@vivaldi.net
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       @delta I really like the concept but have zero energy to convince my peers to switch to a new platform/technologyMaybe some day
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ha7HkvrddJoOhnjk by hidikem@piaille.fr
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       @delta one feature that could be nice it's a sort of feedback on witch user know witch relay.When we change relay we don't really have a proper feedback on witch user know us on witch relay (so it's more difficult to decide when we can remove a relay).
       
 (DIR) Post #B6hbFOPd6EVKj9AfY0 by roughnecks@mastodon.social
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       @delta wrong meme? :toot:
       
 (DIR) Post #B6hggqqdz3bEVaifM8 by delta@chaos.social
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       @roughnecks how so?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6hi9lSRCidy8tkQjo by delta@chaos.social
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       @tael we can't offer a full comparison but here are three key points: 1. Tox is not a cross-platform user offering like #deltachat, but more an infrastructure library like https://github.com/chatmail/core 2. Tox can only transfer messages between contacts who are online at the same time.  complicates mobile usage.3. Tox depends on a global distributed hash table (DHT) to find other contacts; doesn't work in highly restricted networks like during national internet shutdowns/larger failures etc.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6hpXlw1mSieFfz1DE by roughnecks@mastodon.social
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       @delta well, is it #deltachat or #matrix? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
       
 (DIR) Post #B6hqh5GRNsvclEXFJo by delta@chaos.social
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       @roughnecks ah  the matrix project came a decade or so later than the movie but ok. It might be clearer if some delta would be painted into the picture, likely :)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6iJxhZFdd4UrQbsO0 by nihkeys@mastodontti.fi
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       @delta Is there a technical architectural document about the system somewhere? I've tried finding one already couple of times but search engines are not liking my queries for this.A self-contained blog article would be also fine 🙂
       
 (DIR) Post #B6iLG6PM7Y9j4JJrYO by delta@chaos.social
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       @nihkeys There is documentation about various areas of the project, what exactly are you looking for? https://cosmos.delta.chat/ gives an overview about the components of the ecosystem. We also plan to publish a security whitepaper later this year, if that's your angle.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6iMOwo1I5XBqedZlA by nihkeys@mastodontti.fi
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       @delta I think what would be helpful is a document that describes a "lifetime" of a single message and the systems and components that are involved in processing and forwarding it. Also for group communication.There seems to exist separate documentation bits for individual things (like on cosmos) but I'm having trouble finding system level documents.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6mErfbOJJgBtAksGu by KennethBousquet@mastodon.social
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       @delta Yes, the more direct the path, less chances for interception.