Post B6fy89Yfq09zGCzy1w by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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 (DIR) Post #B6fy89Yfq09zGCzy1w by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       gamer kids will save linux ?i wasn't aware linux needed saving.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6fyQBf2l5YEziZqAy by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       in any case, if flatpak gains a hard systemd dependency in the future, we will figure it out as we always do.  we are shipping other things with "hard systemd dependencies" for years and no systemd.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6fyfBvA4f2A91GqPo by alwayscurious@infosec.exchange
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       @ariadne From my perspective, the advantages of systemd are:Proper cgroup-based service control.Dependency-based service management.Various well-specified IPC interfaces.None of those depend on systemd-as-PID-1.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6hDqoeu56KBwYcx6m by hexaheximal@mstdn.social
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       @alwayscurious @ariadne I'm not sure what else there is for the first point, but OpenRC does support service dependencies and IPC is generally handled through D-Bus even on systemd distributions.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6hDqp7GNf0fMVtbJQ by pj@donotsta.re
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       Flatpak plan is to drop D-Bus dependency and use systemd-appd and Varlink for non-systemd distros@hexaheximal @alwayscurious @ariadne
       
 (DIR) Post #B6hDqpL5YG4K3OMdrU by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       @pj @alwayscurious @hexaheximal yes, i don't see any problems with that.  we can certainly make systemd-appd work on alpine, and i personally think varlink is a significant improvement over d-bus
       
 (DIR) Post #B6i92bHhKLFVKHX5k0 by alwayscurious@infosec.exchange
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       @ariadne @pj @hexaheximal I think that Varlink needing a text-based format is an indication of how bad tracing is under Linux.