Post B6ap9reT2GthYvtp1U by histoire3@shota.house
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(DIR) Post #B6af04XzEjfZ7TYnL6 by phnt@fluffytail.org
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"Our software acts like malware, lmao." - Riot Gameshttps://xcancel.com/riotgames/status/2057604027941302564image.png
(DIR) Post #B6af9HnfKeUOpSHsYK by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
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@phnt vanguard does a bunch of insane shit, but isn't this just talking about changing iommu groups to block these fpgas from accessing the games memory?
(DIR) Post #B6afDTJsRd9HiMLlDc by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
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@phnt i assume they're using fpga dev boards. Idk what else could easily be repurposed
(DIR) Post #B6afGi4a35LML7jsmW by RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co
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@phnt this is the worst fucking PR for anti-cheat I have ever seen. If you don't know what all of these words mean it sounds like it's going to brick your nvme
(DIR) Post #B6afKwuOpcTBVhzxvU by lina@eientei.org
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@phnt >makes a shitty dota knockoff that nobody likes and hates the players of>makes a shitty cs knockoff that becomes forever associated with tiktoks of femboys faggots saying "uwu" every time someone gets a kill>makes a shitty anticheat that bricks systems>mocks people who get affected>isn't bankrupt or sued into oblivionriot games trolling to the max
(DIR) Post #B6afg8WkpSJNct2dV2 by RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co
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@snacks @phnt you know the bigger headline here is who the fuck pays $6000 to cheat in a game what is wrong with you
(DIR) Post #B6afq8TfruF0MsMvmC by phnt@fluffytail.org
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@RustyCrab >it sounds like it's going to brick your nvmeIt very well can, that's the issue.
(DIR) Post #B6afxo7pQDb5YxoCoK by phnt@fluffytail.org
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@snacks Yes, these cards are all based on FPGAs.The issue isn't that they fuck with IOMMU on the kernel/hardware barrier. The issue is that if it ever misidentifies a legitimate device and triggers an IOMMU fault, the legitimate device can actually soft-brick itself in order to protect what it is doing. NVMe controllers already do this when they get bus errors which an IOMMU fault effectively is, and go into lockdown mode to protect the data. And it will misidentify eventually given enough time.Not to mention that bragging over basically taking over someone's hardware with the possibility of bricking it by accident isn't particularly a smart PR move.
(DIR) Post #B6afxoHkpJXM3kS8HY by RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co
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@phnt @snacks you know in general you really don't wanna say out loud what you are doing with anti-cheat
(DIR) Post #B6agIyYnosk20YWH0S by phnt@fluffytail.org
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@RustyCrab @snacks Vanguard is a bragging point for Riot, it always was since it came out.
(DIR) Post #B6agQxStm98gvaZ31k by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
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@phnt tbh, with hardware features for drm i'm surprised you can't just protect a process' memory from drm access nowadays
(DIR) Post #B6agaNIp5859fSLFOy by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
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@phnt *dma accessand the access is redundant, oops
(DIR) Post #B6agc6EFX509IG1bd2 by YourAverageNewfag@poa.st
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Is that shit even legal?
(DIR) Post #B6agc6aEDMaAOQJ9t2 by RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co
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@YourAverageNewfag @phnt well it probably wouldn't be criminal, it would likely be a civil tort. However to sue riot you would have to expose that you were cheating which I think could open them to countersuits
(DIR) Post #B6ahGaPiizZiUghCz2 by CrayonEater@kiwifarms.cc
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@RustyCrab @phnt @snacks They are using DMA PCIe FPGA boards which costs about $150. It's still retarded to spend $150 to buy a chinkslop card to cheat in a chinkslop game, but not nearly as bad as $6000
(DIR) Post #B6ahQjCKv7bsdKGtwu by phnt@fluffytail.org
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@snacks Pretty sure the process has no say in that, DMA is mostly all hardware. NT has support for some remapping and protections on the driver level, which they probably use to soft-kill the board already. And it's not like the process could opt out of DMA since almost all hardware subsystems use it nowadays. Disk controllers, networking, graphics,...
(DIR) Post #B6ahfKHbpsYxhkhOJU by newt@stereophonic.space
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@snacks @phnt you could with Intel SGX, but it got broken.
(DIR) Post #B6ahqSryFfdPWL1Amm by lina@eientei.org
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@CrayonEater @RustyCrab @phnt @snacks no waygameshark 2
(DIR) Post #B6ahuk3qHBaZztbta4 by phnt@fluffytail.org
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@newt @snacks New CPUs also don't have it anyway (before it got broken).
(DIR) Post #B6aiAAT4NVo6EylXd2 by phnt@fluffytail.org
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@RustyCrab @snacks https://xcancel.com/riotgames/status/2057879738350444726image.png
(DIR) Post #B6aiF8QZOKodMPxtUe by RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co
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@phnt @snacks please remove all millennial access to social media
(DIR) Post #B6aiQxq6aFmFzsY8Yq by newt@stereophonic.space
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@phnt @RustyCrab @snacks cheating has been a solved problem for the longest time. Just votekick the cheater from your friendly neighbourhood server. That's it, done.
(DIR) Post #B6aiX4y0zqIdqAAJ0a by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
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@newt @RustyCrab @phnt having people review flagged games and stuff like votekick seem way better than insane anti cheat yeah
(DIR) Post #B6aif83bOKGXjzcJUm by newt@stereophonic.space
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@snacks @RustyCrab @phnt all this requires is gamers running their own servers. Which of course is never going to happen to corposhit vidya.
(DIR) Post #B6aincvgUc4Bo2xvou by phnt@fluffytail.org
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@newt @RustyCrab @snacks Or render the game state mostly server-side while sending as little data as possible to the client. It doesn't work 100% and works less for something like a fast-paced FPS game, but it prevents cheating almost completely without tons of r&d for anti-cheat.World of Tanks of all games did this from the start and finding cheaters there is a rarity that has been documented only a few times.
(DIR) Post #B6aind6Jr4ZcL1wQOe by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
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@phnt @RustyCrab @newt afaik the riot fps was one of the first shooters that tried that seriously actually
(DIR) Post #B6aixgjXCj7MV452W0 by RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co
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@phnt @snacks @newt server side rendering is a difficult problem but in arc radiers for example you can see items people have from all the way across the map in closed bunkers with DMA cheats. Absolute retard level carelessness Do the bare minimum please
(DIR) Post #B6ajp1ymwVHTk1ePuy by niobleoum@nekosat.work
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@YourAverageNewfag @RustyCrab @phnt If you read carefully through that 100 page long ToS, it's probably covered somewhere there. :jahy_smug:
(DIR) Post #B6ajqGXqH4TjCkdU6i by phnt@fluffytail.org
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@RustyCrab @snackscan't-change-channel-now.jpeg
(DIR) Post #B6aohWmX2IMyj99xA0 by paula8@netzsphaere.xyz
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@RustyCrab @phnt @YourAverageNewfag you probably cant really sue riot, they for sure have one of those arbitration clauses
(DIR) Post #B6aojt0PNaDiESm63k by RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co
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@paula8 @phnt @YourAverageNewfag those things aren't set in stone if the violation is egregious enough
(DIR) Post #B6ap9reT2GthYvtp1U by histoire3@shota.house
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@RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co @paula8@netzsphaere.xyz @phnt@fluffytail.org @YourAverageNewfag@poa.st Nonsense, I still expect your first born
(DIR) Post #B6as0kJlEXjY4ZYdqi by niobleoum@nekosat.work
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@RustyCrab @phnt @paula8 @YourAverageNewfag One would need to find some malicious moles (Tencet CCP backdoors or whatever), then a really strong proof (which is probably only obtainable through illicit means), and then one would need class action and serious team of lawyers, and also not in US, because courts there couldn't care less about sticking it up to corpo. All the software like that is like Russian rulette - just don't play, and you won't lose. :BocchiBreakdown:
(DIR) Post #B6ataFsA0O5E1n8yDw by phnt@fluffytail.org
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@niobleoum @RustyCrab @paula8 @YourAverageNewfag Technically even partially bricking the Windows install unless a user disables IOMMU is in breach of federal law. But not like anyone cared in the last 2 decades about that after SecuROM.
(DIR) Post #B6ataG7P5iHCn4H8z2 by RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co
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@phnt @niobleoum @paula8 @YourAverageNewfag as long as government officials are not affected nobody cares
(DIR) Post #B6bOQyQAcKCbsN6cNM by trogdor@rayci.st
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@lina @phnt It is easy to hate game developers, but do you have the courage to hate the gamers that enable them?
(DIR) Post #B6bOQyddoEygY9PNNA by lina@eientei.org
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@trogdor @phnt is that the new barcade fad to say its easy to hate x but do you have the y to hate z?
(DIR) Post #B6bOkSI7mhXU1EdFY0 by trogdor@rayci.st
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Yes
(DIR) Post #B6bOkSTp5CtebW6amW by lina@eientei.org
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@trogdor @phnt barcade