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trying to buy a non-booting mac mini g4 👀
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yisss got it for 30€
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behold. the Small Macintosh
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i cant believe apple invented yet another proprietary power connectori mean of course i can but COME ON
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@ahihi USB-C we have at home
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seller: machine doesnt boot, only beeps three timesme, powering on:
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i havent even done anything yet!
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i think three beeps is RAM issues so it might be intermittent. or just badly seated even
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@ahihi@anticapitalist.party correct, that was going to be my suggestion, it probably got bumped back into place
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i get into Leopard but the HDD is failing (also known in advance) so everything takes forever
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oh shit its the fastest model! lets go
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also theres wifi, which i dont expect to use in OS9, but usually people sell me things lacking an airport card. so thats nice
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HDD has gone fully uncooperative now. but at least i got the hardware info :)
(DIR) Post #B6luUrvqIv78NyAgDY by ahihi@anticapitalist.party
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the power plug is Lightning compatible. you will surely not regret plugging this into your USB port
(DIR) Post #B6luUs8xW9bd2eJ9f6 by ahihi@anticapitalist.party
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oh right, i ran out of IDE SSDs and their prices have exploded
(DIR) Post #B6luUsJEtvpTYX7Mga by ahihi@anticapitalist.party
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i do have a CompactFlash adapter though. and possibly even some cards
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ok OS9 may be frugal by todays standards but i fear these arent gonna cut it
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wtf is even on these
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ah yeah these were the ones grandpa (RIP) used in his camera
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theres a photo of me at idk, 12-13 years old? it is pretty funny but i will not be posting it 😂
(DIR) Post #B6luUtDFXgdGMFK5zM by ahihi@anticapitalist.party
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50 photos of the same heart-shaped piece of ice melting on a silver color coated piece of cardboard. can you tell he was a graphic designer?:')
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wait theres more. inside the ice is a ☮ shaped piece which is revealed as it melts
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me, 16, absolutely COMPUTIN
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anyway, im looking at CF cards and these arent any cheaper than the SSDs. sigh
(DIR) Post #B6luUtvCuFnIYZtCVM by ahihi@anticapitalist.party
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i found a 2.5" IDE HDD. where is it from? does it work? it is a mystery
(DIR) Post #B6luUu7cA7idB3h6qO by ahihi@anticapitalist.party
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its not from the iBook G3 because that one had the CF/SD adapter contraptionits not from the iBooks G4 or PowerBook G4 because i havent swapped the disk in thoseits not from any desktop because why would they have a 2.5"
(DIR) Post #B6luUuJJSd4nlLAS4u by ahihi@anticapitalist.party
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it does seem to work though. of course you can never be sure how long that will be true with disks of this age (well, any age, but you know)...but since this wont be any kind of mission-critical system, maybe ill just put this one in the mac mini and save my money for now?
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the real question is do i brew a cup of mate and disassemble the machine now (it is 3 in the morning), or another time
(DIR) Post #B6luUueECro4oCx9g8 by ahihi@anticapitalist.party
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surprise stream: lets repair the mac mini [gone]entirely unprofessional kitchen table live setup with bad audio! but come hang out if you like :-)
(DIR) Post #B6luUuslKpQtXHklKi by ahihi@anticapitalist.party
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help :D how do i physically eject the disc from a Mac Mini G4 optical drive that doesnt respond via any digital means? #Macintosh #VintageApple
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fuck it i disassembled it just enough to pull out the disc
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a warning is in order
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okay so fun fact about this machine. it is quite easy to accidentally plug in the hard drive such that only one row of IDE pins is inserted into the socket. unsurprisingly, this may result in things not working
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thats probably why the optical drive wasnt responding either. with that sorted out, both the HDD and ODD are now recognized. im not gonna try inserting another disc though
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basically its ready to try installing operating systems via the usual methods. but ive had enough for now and will go to bed
(DIR) Post #B6luUw5Cs2ytGAaDMu by ahihi@anticapitalist.party
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@q66 warned about the plastic tabs breaking off but all of mine are still intact. well-considered and patient prying with a non-serrated butter knife was key ☝️👩🏫jk i didnt consider shit. i think i just got lucky with some not so degraded plastic :3
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woah its another stream. lets install operating systems [gone]
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ending the stream on a cliffhanger: Mac OS 9.2.2 for Mac Mini G4 installer is running
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to recap, i got Tiger set up on one partition and then tried OS9 from the generic "unsupported G4s" image. that didnt quite work, and then i found out about this one https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/mac-os-922-mac-mini-g4
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it works 🥰🥰🥰
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next i need to decide where to put the mini. it is so small there are a lot of options
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i probably should have more than one OS9 compatible audio interface
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'Sound is a problem for the 1.5GHz "Silent Upgrade" Mac mini'oh yeah? 😏
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(no technical feat on my part here, its just that ASIO works even when Sound Manager doesnt)
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bleh i need to redo a bunch of my under-desk cabling to make this work
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it shall sit here for now. everything is wired up 😌
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hrm anyone know whats up with this? the Mac Mini G4 claims to support 1920x1080, but i get this scuffed picture in both OS 9 and OS X 😬 #Macintosh #VintageApple
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maybe i need to try another HDMI cable and/or DVI-HDMI adapter
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same result with a different cable and different adapter. furthermore i get 1920x1080 just fine from my G4 Digital Audio with these same cables/adapters. so it does seem like an issue with the Mini itself 😔(cc @devlin @janbeta)
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some potentially related discussionhttps://discussions.apple.com/thread/748191?sortBy=rankhttps://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-mini-g4-will-not-output-to-hdmi-via-dvi.2206219/
(DIR) Post #B6luUywoDj2w8zg3CC by ahihi@anticapitalist.party
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what the hell is a non-coherent display 🫠
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ok this sucks but it does get me 1080p60 😂the Mini's output is DVI-I, so i can do DVI-VGA adapter -> OSSC -> HDMI
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the problem is that i only have one OSSC and i need it for other things
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i tried some other ways..basic VGA to HDMI converter: picture is way off center and squished. OSSC with default settings had the same issue, but i could fix it by tuning OSSC settings. no such option hereVGA directly into display: picture is squished, and settings on the display dont fix it. sigh
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not sure if SwitchRes lets you tweak signal timings and stuff, guess i should try. but not today
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another OSSC would cost 5x what i paid for the computer, which, no
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if nothing else, i imagine SwitchRes will let me do 1080p@30 digitally without hitting the pixel clock issues. which isnt great but might be the least annoying option
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anywayanother OS9 compatible audio interface acquired ✅
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more info on the HDMI coherency issue https://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=4337.msg30099#msg30099
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also relevant https://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=7048.0
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alright time to poke around in SwitchRes
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what?today the 1080p60 over VGA just works??
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im not complaining butwhy
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lets get this thing on the network then
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kinda funny that the 68k macs can get on wifi with WPA2 and all, but this one cant
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it is audio time
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some results after installing the driver and testing- the "advanced driver" switch on the side of the device must be set to "on" (unsurprising but i forgot it existed)- Sound Manager, which previously showed a non-functional built-in device, now shows no devices at all- the driver package came with four ASIO drivers, one for each combination of ASIO 1.0/2.0 and 16/24 bit. these are working fine with SuperCollider 2
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thanks to @aramya's lovely page https://aramya.neocities.org/ofw/ i now know that you can telnet into Open Firmware and enjoy normal keyboard layouts, copy-paste, etc
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i read a bunch of threads about the onboard audio situation. this one has some good sleuthing and is quite educational on how to go about figuring out this stuff https://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=6701.0but the latest development is that someone got it kinda working.. with a vibecoded extension😩