Post B6YuDUVh806YP4QP3I by keydelk@fosstodon.org
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 (DIR) Post #B6Ytv20GNTDYmIv9EW by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       :linux: After months of testing, weeks of writing, here is finally my new full Linux install guide: "Interim Install Guide: KDE Neon User Edition for a professional digital painter workstation": https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1145/interim-install-guide-kde-neon-user-edition-for-a-professional-digital-painter-workstationEverything about Drawing Tablet, Color Management and Calibration/Profiling on KDE Plasma 6 Wayland, and all to survive the packaging mess with eg. built-in tutorial to revert version of Flatpak, scripts to beta-test Krita, and more! The most complete article I ever published!
       
 (DIR) Post #B6YuDUVh806YP4QP3I by keydelk@fosstodon.org
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       @davidrevoy and no workstation is complete without the nearby cat 😸
       
 (DIR) Post #B6YuJIVoeK6ivhFaDo by meowki@meowstodon.eu
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       @davidrevoy nice cat!
       
 (DIR) Post #B6Yurjj5ySJFB8sppg by cthos@mastodon.cthos.dev
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       @davidrevoy Cat!
       
 (DIR) Post #B6YvIEPkV24lsvT5Hc by kaijucat@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy lovely workstation! odd question, how do you work with color balance of your display tablet and the computer? mine is so off 😭
       
 (DIR) Post #B6YvQ578xdYnMFVbOa by 70hz@livellosegreto.it
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       @davidrevoy step zero: get a cat.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6YvUcyizqNxXnjrQO by cavallo_pazzo@toot.community
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       @davidrevoy Congrats and thanks for sharing!
       
 (DIR) Post #B6YvWuAI4IPtQVEaWm by starraven@mastodon.scot
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       @davidrevoy How do you get the cat to stay off your workspace?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6YwH2355a0nCLrDMG by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @starraven If you install comfy area like I did on both side, they just conclude they have better place to sleep. (but my seat and my mouse pad are still their favorite place too 😆 ).
       
 (DIR) Post #B6YwKFG4Qte12GStjU by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @70hz the 101 of any artistic guide!
       
 (DIR) Post #B6YwQgxoKyiAhSzxo0 by reading_recluse@c.im
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       @rybson This post/article seems pretty overwhelming, but it made me think of you so I'm tagging you just in case (maybe there's some useful information in it for you regarding doing art on Linux and the trouble with Wayland?).
       
 (DIR) Post #B6YwoiYU4VmgaObmC0 by sublimeoverload@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy Sweet setup. Thank you for the write up. I landed on bazzite but might give your setup a go.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6YxV9ftdG0WrHJLWK by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @sublimeoverload Thanks, yes, it should contains a lot of relevant info for any distro with Plasma 6  greater than 6.5.4.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6YyoomL8IVXnQGTz6 by micahilbery@mstdn.social
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       @davidrevoy just a heads up; In the workstation hardware section, you say that you are using an XPPen Artist Pro 19 tablet then link to the review of a Huion Kamvas Pro 19 tablet.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6YytUVLwFEUMiY0lk by DukeDuke@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy Very impressive setup and write-up! Thanks for taking the time to put this out!
       
 (DIR) Post #B6YzICzSC5b9HiPgNk by aho@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy kind of same as mine, in the process of replacing my monitors with new ones, just a bit scared of going 16:9 and the only alternative for 4k seems to be 3:2 but not as good color gamut... wish there was more 16:10 options... that I can afford
       
 (DIR) Post #B6Z0bGuxuoMwvEy4Aa by raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie
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       @davidrevoy Very interesting and no doubt I'll have to have more Flatpak (I avoid it) and Wayland instead of X11. I do have Wayland  on an alternate desktop.For now I'll stick with Mint, Mate & X11 (Jan 2017). Fortunately I've not had to worry about colour calibration for years, though my TVs, monitors & Nxtpaper tablets (set to sRGB and neutral balance) are all set to reasonably sane brightness, contrast and colour.I used XP as main OS 2002 to 2016 with a couple of months of Win7 at the end.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6Z5kG2D4GJMYnSbhI by csolisr@hub.azkware.net
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       @davidrevoy Not sure if mobile Internet is failing for me, or if we just gave your site a hug of death
       
 (DIR) Post #B6Z5kGB4XJOt0HbgVk by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @csolisr Ha yes, very possible; the page itself has 10MB of picture on it (even if I optimized each one carefully), and 10MB x a big number can really quickly overwhelm my small server. 😅
       
 (DIR) Post #B6Z5xK8F94QR24VrYe by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @gbraad Ha yes, you saw the details on my webcam (temporary under the display on this shot) it has googley eyes so I don't forget to make eye contact with it during my video tutorial 😅
       
 (DIR) Post #B6Z7QIfvjwYqrneP5s by Mirppc@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy Man it would be awesome if you where to help out at the KDE boot during SCALE (The Southern California Linux Expo) or the Opensource Graphics booth!  Congrats on your most recent article :)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6Z7hlcVNSJxYnNSc4 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @hadriscus Thank you for the typo, fixed! I have a Wacom PTH-860 around here on my test bench (Wacom Intuos Pro Large), I quickly connected it, via USB cable, plug and play on KDE Neon User Edition; 056a:0358 Wacom Co., Ltd PTH-860 [Intuos Pro (L)] , so certainly the medium version will work on it, unless your model is toasted? (is it possible?)The distro also mounted the built-in 'Wacom Start" pen drive, a 32MB built-in ROM as an external drive.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ZBUss7VHD46TnGFM by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @abmurrow Thank you very much for your detailed feedback, and it really makes me happy to read about your tests. 👍
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ZBkeNn8q3nnd7qkq by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @Mirppc Thank you very much! Oh yes, I wish one day I can make a solid digital painting demo with Krita at a KDE booth on a big event like that (or better, participating to a KDE sprint with a focus of streamlining all the tiny bottlenecks I share on my article like we did in the old day on Krita).
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ZC826v5W843CNqlc by mitsunee@mk.absturztau.be
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       @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org does the guide come with instructions on how to keep the cat from jumping onto the desk or did you get lucky when taking that picture? ​:neofox_floof:​
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ZC82Ms8CtCqfqadE by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @mitsunee 🤣 For the jumps on the desk, and the chasing (I have four, so they sometime play together), I have no solution, except drinking quickly the coffee cup. Fortunately, they avoid my display tablet: it's super slippery and after they tested a slide or too on it with uncontrolled results, they tend to avoid it. The most difficult is for all the remote keyboard shortcut, and the top power off button on the top of my PC tower. They press it, by chance, never during 6 sec 😆
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ZD8cogiSZFqWhafQ by Stem@framapiaf.org
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       @davidrevoy Les esquisses de Lytchee ne sont pas publiées sur ton site, s'agit-il d'un oubli ?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ZE4ttvM2XNd1wHwG by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @Stem C'est vrai, en effet, oui, juste un oubli de déplacer le fichier dans la partie publique, merci, c'est réparé:  https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/viewer/sketchbook__2026-04-06_character-design_by-David-Revoy.html
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ZERHysVTE2gKvqMa by bartavi@mastodon.nl
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       @davidrevoy the link to oxipng points to your own site
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ZERIETZThbSiEIfw by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @bartavi Oopsie! Fixed, and thank you for reporting it; I forgot the https:// prefix in my markdown and my content management system interpreted that as a relative link inside my blog 😆 It then went 404 and its homepage.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ZHlvlkaHOHjlKGeW by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @aho Yes, I loved when 16:10 was more or less the norm around 2010 as an aspect ratio. Nowadays, I like my 24" 16:9 in quad HD (2560x1440px), I can screenrecord them and do video editing with keeping the same ratio, so it unify that at least.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ZI6pkq8qitAErqAC by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @RealHobberman Yes, but artists are hacker; if she looks at art history, she'll see that technical advancement, tweaking and art always went in pair. Following the norm.... eh.... rarely 😆 She is welcome to join the hackers!
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ZIKeKvOGCvo2KkFc by feff@comicscamp.club
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       @davidrevoy I did not realise there was a subtle blue hue to Plasma 6 until I tried one of the desaturated colour themes you suggested, so thank you so much for sharing this!
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ZIKegY5rVMt6S0xM by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @feff Thank you for the feedback Feff!
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ZIb2YB8EUzXMLfxw by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @kaijucat The color calibration helps at having the same temperature, with the icc file. You can even set the same target luminosity (but for that, the full rig as to adopt the candela/m² of the darkest screen in the group.) On my photo, the XpPen wasn't calibrated and profiled yet, and in blue. On a photo later on the post ( https://www.davidrevoy.com/data/images/blog/2026/2026-05-22_kde-neon-guide/04_hardware_pc-setup.jpg ) you can see that I have unified tones on the four (but always difficult to catch with a photo: display view angles darken/bluish things) 1/2
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ZInPSLnGZi3OWLrs by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @kaijucat 2/2 I really recomend getting a Colormunki smile of Xrite ( https://www.davidrevoy.com/data/images/blog/2026/2026-05-22_kde-neon-guide/07A_color-management_a_profiling.jpg ) I got mine on refurbished/second-hand market for around 40€. Many mac user were selling them for this price while it usually cost 5x that years ago because Xrite stopped making drivers for newer MacOS systems. But no problem on Linux :)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ZKtSadFv5pPzPJhY by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @hadriscus Debian 13 Trixie? Normal; this distro is in the death valley of what I call the big regression in my article. That's partly why I couldn't switch from Debian 12 my previous distro to 13, and I'm waiting a lot Debian 14 in summer 2027
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ZZODldoWWxma7QeW by kaijucat@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy Thank you so much!! <3
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ZahlvN8wV9AtYalk by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @mewsleah Ha! Right, the server can't follow right now. 😆 I'll have to check if it's federation or another portal, Reddit or HN. Thank you for the feedback, and sorry for this hiccup of service.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ZfYHxNgyutOdnHfc by tristen@illo.social
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       @davidrevoy Out of curiosity, why KDE Neon and not Debian 13? For the latest KDE version/updates?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6Zffxx9wtZPfnLpPU by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @jdboyd Too many visitor! The article is victim of its success... Sorry about that, bandwidth also have their limit even if I pay a premium hosting service. 😅
       
 (DIR) Post #B6Zfprx37OJHxG1PU0 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @tristen Yes, unfortunately, Debian 13 is one of the distro that is in the "valley of death" of being released with not good enough Wayland tech; and X11 support starting to be neglected and buggy... That's a shame, I really liked my years on Debian!
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ZgS3SmlX7sf84g4W by tristen@illo.social
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       @davidrevoy I'm currently using Debian 13 + KDE Plasma's X11 session.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6Zgm5k608wnWTj2UC by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @tristen Yes, it's a possibility to use Plasma 6.3.6 with X11, but when I tested it, I had more issue with multiple screen, and when I checked the bug report, it was clear that with Plasma going to Wayland only (announced) no one would fix that. So, I preferred to skip this possibilities. That's why I said "X11 support starting to be neglected".
       
 (DIR) Post #B6a2Ho4PLA9717BrOa by vort3@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy @jdboyd just wanted to report the same but I see you're aware of the issue already.Maybe we could arrange so that your hosting can hold more load? IDK, maybe mirror some of your articles on other websites and redirect.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6a5aG9JyrvxB6ylvM by Juankprada@mstdn.jp
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       @davidrevoy @hadriscus Oh I’ve been on a Devuan 6 (Essentially Debian 13 without Systemd) since it was released. No issues so far except for when I stupidly decided to move to “testing”. 🫠
       
 (DIR) Post #B6a78KWeJfXqYDhVBY by Juankprada@mstdn.jp
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       @davidrevoy I dare to say that the fact your article crashed your server due to the load of visitors it got you, means that there is more people experiencing the same kind of pains with the whole X11/Wayland drama than what most developers cared to imagine.  I wish this could be used as evidence to make them conscious of the needs of the art community in Linux
       
 (DIR) Post #B6aCeHUZd69EBEmht2 by aho@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy the thing I'm worried about is that everything will be feeling small, for my current monitors are as high as most 27" monitors nowadays (they are just slightly wider), but going for 32 inch won't work as they too large where I have my monitors. Replacing with a wide screen either isn't wide enough to cover as much as the two monitors or it is a curved one and the curve make a straight line to look like it's not straight. Sure I can scale 200%, but then I know I have less view space
       
 (DIR) Post #B6aCnu17lQJmGmb7Mu by silicon_velay@mamot.fr
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       @davidrevoy thank you so much for the tips about screen borders. I was reaaaaallllly anoyed about this...
       
 (DIR) Post #B6aFKVaFpMKvxIhlZY by AlbertBorneo@framapiaf.org
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       @davidrevoy Quand on a autant d'abonnés, voilà le serveur sature, je mets le lien au frigo le temps qu'il refroidisse
       
 (DIR) Post #B6aHRharlzuH8fY6oC by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @AlbertBorneo Oui 😅 Désolé, Je viens de regarder les logs du serveur: le lien tourne fort. Même très fort. Le serveur distribue mais en situation claire d'overload. Le temps d'accès est très long depuis hier.C'est flatteur en tout cas après tout le travail dessus. Merci pour le message!
       
 (DIR) Post #B6aIzuEnMxYC9a6D3Y by AlbertBorneo@framapiaf.org
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       @davidrevoy Tu y a sans doute passé tant de temps, que nous pouvons largement attendre, merci d'avance en tout cas
       
 (DIR) Post #B6aM6V8HPKTKBHt7E8 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       Quick mirror of my article on my other server: https://www.peppercarrot.com/extras/html/2026-05-23_KDE-Neon-for-digital-painter-guide_mirror/  because my blog is in a overload situation, too many visitors, I hope it helps!
       
 (DIR) Post #B6aME7xJSjkQcFOXIm by feff@comicscamp.club
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       @vort3 @davidrevoy @jdboyd I'd be happy to host a mirror of this article on my own blog too, since I have also wrote about the weird set ups and bugs for getting my (admittedly non-native) art stuff working on Linux
       
 (DIR) Post #B6aME8IwAL2rhJVo0W by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @feff @vort3 @jdboyd Thank you for the idea 👍 , I setup a quick one here with pandoc and a bit of CSS copy/pasted from my other static projects: https://www.peppercarrot.com/extras/html/2026-05-23_KDE-Neon-for-digital-painter-guide_mirror/ I hope it will help!
       
 (DIR) Post #B6aOIOqCpCb23GEesS by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @evalhaik It's interesting, and the plan looks promising on the long term (having an immutable base, and flatpak/nix/appimage package on top). I still struggle to see how it can work to deploy a simple php local host webdev server, or doing CLI parrallal job on multiple image. But it sounds perfect for the user who wants something just like a Steamdeck: just using software on the top of an operating system. I'll keep an eye on it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6aSp6Rqd6GSNcgxBw by m0bi@mastodon.com.pl
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       @davidrevoy cc @mr_zvbr
       
 (DIR) Post #B6aeK3pzU7E2kwwtEm by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @slumberingcat Oh great! 💜  Thank you for the link! I'll play a bit with it, and if I adopt I'll update the article.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6aechA80yc9vsFmTo by slumberingcat@calckey.world
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       @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @evalhaik@bonn.social The website is a little out of date. My understanding is they got rid of Nix. They're using some new called Kapsule instead which is like an evolution of the Distrobox concept if you've seen that before. Other posts on that blog use AI gen images which is something to note. There's also the Podman/Quadlet stuff for hosting services such as Jellyfin or whatever service.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6aechQ53fNIjLiWLQ by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @slumberingcat @evalhaik Good to know! I see, it's also a territory of one em-dash per paragraph generated article... Yes, definitely something to note.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6agd44P2omAt5sabw by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       My blog is back! I went into the logs to see the RSS code was the main culprit: huge and with 14K RSS bots hitting it over the last 10h.So, I simplified the RSS because, meh: I was sending the full content of the article with 10MB of pictures and the code was dynamically converting the markdown to html, then html to special char, *each time* 🫠 hm hm, no wonder...Now the website is back and up to speed, and the article received over 60K visitors, thank you!
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ahpv0e8uN8VOocaW by bison@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy cc @tiarael
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ai2ajSqNehNiozvk by the_moep@mastodon.de
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       @davidrevoy Always feels good to resolve massive issues with simple fixes to such oversights :D
       
 (DIR) Post #B6aiHYUfRvDkmZ2Hho by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @slumberingcat  Tested and oh my 😍 It's amazing. Version, stopping update, a nice GUI, control and backup of the preferences... It's a little dream. Thank you for the recommendation! I'll update the article, this is really a better way to do that.[edit: article updated!]
       
 (DIR) Post #B6al8Kd7vMEB2dHnWK by oemb1905@gnulinux.social
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       @davidrevoy @tristen Did you consider Xlibre on Debian? I used your 2023 setup for my daughter's drawing laptop on a yoga but then upgraded to an x1 and with Xlibre + Debian 13 it all works, same with my desktop setups, no changes required really, just installed Xlibre and done. I saw in your article you had moving from X as a requirement ... so just curious what drives that decision? Mainstream support? Other? Thanks for your articles and write ups; my daughter and I would die without them.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6amwD0gd4K5qFeYCW by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @oemb1905 @tristen  Thank you very much for the feedback! About XLibre, this is clearly a project I don't want to support for ethical reasons, I saw the words and behavior of the maintainer and its enough for me to pass my way. About the Wayland tech, during all my time on Debian 12 KDE X11, I kept being involved in testing the tools I showcase in my guide. See https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1038/my-new-test-station-for-graphic-pen-tablet-on-linux in 2024. And now they are ready, some of them are simply better, technically and for the end user.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6anLUiTvzRHzrC9WC by oemb1905@gnulinux.social
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       @davidrevoy @tristen Gotcha, okay. Well, I don't share those ethical concerns but respect your opinion and appreciate your insights as always. Thanks, Jonathan.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6aoAVLTM7QuiRkwHw by LonM@vivaldi.net
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       @davidrevoy Makes me think that a lot of web usage is mis-aligned with how the modern web actually works. RSS Updates, Livestreams, status updates on mastodon... they all feel like it should be "broadcast" rather than clients connecting one by one to a server.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6aoxo82JC6LA1ysGO by NormalOperator@mas.to
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       @davidrevoy great writeup and nice recommendations. As a guide for others, I would strongly discourage installing a samba server on every creative person's device. With the onslaught of hacked routers and iot vulnerabilities, you shouldn't add network access to a device unless you're sharing files on the network. It isn't needed for local php development. I'd encourage a note that if you aren't doing local php development, skip apache for the same reason.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6apLG8KM0H8fzIdaC by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @NormalOperator Thank you for the feedback and "Oopsie" for having samba in my list (I forgot to remove it, yes, this is really specific to my network here having a strict 'public/' directory for when guest comes to share local files) I'll delete it, thank you!
       
 (DIR) Post #B6asrlSbiQt6xrycUK by freshrss@framapiaf.org
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       @davidrevoy Consider adding HTTP Cache-Control headers, and also support for HTTP conditional requests (respond with 304 Not Modified with e.g. If-Modified-Since). At the moment, you have none.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6avMz6jE3ncAxl2X2 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @Juankprada I wish it could! Any attention on this part is good. The computer graphic scene is so large and with deep expertize...  game dev, 3D art, movie editing, optic science and at multiple level too (hobby, learning, professional).Also many users enjoys having an OS allowing them to do a bit of everything on their computer: music, video editing, art, code, writing and don't crash on a limit if they start to get hyper specialized in one area. 1/2
       
 (DIR) Post #B6avYTOkwhHHJ3fUTw by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @Juankprada 2/2 Yes, Linux dev in general needs to look at "pro gamers" rigs, "pro video editor",  "pro game dev", and more hyper specialized PC install because having all these possibilities would just enrich the ecosystem for every users with all their complexity (I don't believe in the myth of the "average user"...).
       
 (DIR) Post #B6avlYk4OBCze0sSnY by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @freshrss Thank you very much for sharing your recommendation! Ok, I'll dive into this, I see it can really help.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6b9uIWlRV8bJuiNqC by Konqi@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy Very impressive battle rig you got there! Love it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6bN6m7AYx37xj1UG0 by jaqbsy@mastodon.online
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       @davidrevoy great read, thank you. But I have a question. The article doesn’t list the orange cat. And there’s a prominent cat on the pictures. Is the cat a part of the software or hardware requirements? Can you apt-get the cat?🐱😆
       
 (DIR) Post #B6bUUoiHFiKKeOn6jA by Juankprada@mstdn.jp
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       @davidrevoy Im curious, did you ever considered other “stable” alternatives like OpenSuse Leap or AlmaLinux/Rocky Linux? For a while now (except for that stupid lapsus in which I decided to try Testing last week) I’ve been more and more inline with the idea that old software will give me less “surprises” And that smaller projects may provide a better “long term” investment in the end… (1/2)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6cOpRYa8ZdILYfUoq by Juankprada@mstdn.jp
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       @davidrevoy For example I stopped using KDE plasma, not because it was bad. It is actually pretty good. But every decision made in the project that goes against my own interests is harder to overcome/workaround than let’s say on something like DWM or OpenBox It does have a huge upfront investement though but I think it was worth it (2/2)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6cOpRm3KUPN1KyFoe by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @Juankprada Yes for OpenSuse, used it 10y ago for maybe 1 month, I appreciated their home made custom settings, but disliked the focus on server ("uptime funk" era and ewww the communication of Lunduke).I then went to Arch at that time. Never tried Alma or Rocky. I guess they suffer the same situation than in Debian: frozen right withing what I call the "death valley" 2023~2026 ; when X11 got more bugs unfixed, and Wayland isn't ready enough. (1/2)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6cPKBSo1NWZPacnR2 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @Juankprada By the way, I should probably update my article with a graphic representation of this 'death valley' 😆 Joke aside, in the Wayland era, the D.E. controls the color management and the tablet handling. (before on X11, we had CLI tools for that, that could work on all distro, not anymore). That's why now the choice of D.E. and its version is far more important than the choice of distro, imo. The 26.04LTS has a descent Plasma version. Maybe a sweat LTS ecosystem once Snap removed (2/2)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6cYjkVHmOcouh39yy by Juankprada@mstdn.jp
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       @davidrevoy I switched to Xlibre for those reasons. I get why you may not want to go there. So I understand. If I may say something about it, not with the aim of convincing you of changing your mind about it though; there has always been questionable people from all sides of the political spectrum involved in all parts of the Linux ecosystem. I made peace with that some time ago as I would end up not using Linux if I chose to avoid certain contributors. (1/2)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6cZ7834PFcUb506JU by Juankprada@mstdn.jp
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       @davidrevoy You know, that’s one of the reasons I am not so happy about the whole Wayland situation. I don’t really care about the architectural choices except for the fact that I want things to work. But with Wayland I won’t be able to use the Desktop environment (or WM) I want. I would have to stick to Plasma if I want to have all the feature needed for my art process (not a bad DE by any means but not my choice) (1/2)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ceSA1GlzBIYu0Sx6 by Juankprada@mstdn.jp
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       Is that or wait until someone else implements exactly the same things KDE implemented in my chosen envioronment. Which may never really happen … (2/2)@davidrevoy
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ceSAOfMztdjSx9Q8 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @Juankprada I agree: the core design choice makes everything less modular on Wayland than X11 for the end user, and the alternative D.E./Windows Manager on Wayland are already no-go territory for me because of that. There is only GNOME and Plasma (Sway has a CLI tool for tablet, but very limited). To contrast, I remember my days on Arch+Awesome WM with no problem for the tablet support and color management thanks to X11 xsetwacom and argyll. It wasn't user friendly (many scripts) but possible.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6cfD8DhHVNiaiDVbs by Juankprada@mstdn.jp
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       @davidrevoy I think that’s how I live my live now among many scripts. I created menus for most of them which are a shortcut away (using Dmenu) so I overcame that. I wouldn’t mind porting everything I’ve done to Wayland if I had the chance to use it. But it will just not work 🤷
       
 (DIR) Post #B6chc8Bejyo5dYJJz6 by bronsen@chaos.social
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       @davidrevoy I see googly eyes! 🤪
       
 (DIR) Post #B6chnxBJU74IykmtiS by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @bronsen Yes! It's a on a webcam; to remind me to do eye contact with it during my tutorials 😅
       
 (DIR) Post #B6d5u0xgjyU1LAq01Y by mica@gts.silentumbrella.com
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       @davidrevoy I had never heard of that web cms. Is it working well for you?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6d5u1X8cAq777QJHM by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @mica I adopted a PluXML CMS more than 20 years ago so I have a biais. I love its design: flat database (xml files) + php/gd : minimalistic. The project is still maintained, and mine is very modified (all reported on my blog or on the official forum) to use markdown mainly. But I had to abandon the comment system; and tweak it a lot to adapt it. The Php code is great, and easy to read. I learnt a lot thanks to it, but I can't recommend it to modern blogger.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6eKySA3FTf9KK9fPM by kimael@mamot.fr
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       @davidrevoy << Unfortunately, on the landscape right now, I couldn't find something 100% compliant with my list... >>You should look on Linux Mint side :)and/or (my favorite) on Gentoo side (you can use the default use flags and binary kernel for a "quick" start).Please tell me what you found if you do ;)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ePBJLFkXKvYUmTk8 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @kimael Hey, see how Linux Mint devs managed this issue for a basic feature for drawing tablet I opened in 2014 and it wasn't addressed and even more, closed totally recently: https://github.com/linuxmint/cinnamon-control-center/issues/76  They just don't care about drawing tablet and color management and just inherit whatever GNOME does in this area when they are not breaking it, afaik. So, while I enjoy it on my living room PC for my guest, on PC of family, and my media center, it has real flaw regarding my job. ¯\(ツ)/¯
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ePOWtye2kRNMKH4a by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @kimael Btw, if Linux Mint made a reboot of their KDE version on top of the 26.04LTS ecosystem, without snap, I would be the first to use it for my workstation 😺
       
 (DIR) Post #B6eTYExIcjFmQclXYO by kimael@mamot.fr
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       @davidrevoy sorry to read this :/ A friend of mine uses KDE over Linux Mint, so I thought... but I was probably wrong. Thanks :)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6eTcpHfUsIKG2TojQ by kimael@mamot.fr
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       @davidrevoy so now you have to try Gentoo :D
       
 (DIR) Post #B6eUHLIZt1bn8IE0u0 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @kimael Already tried :) Not user-friendly enough for me or for my install guides ¯\(ツ)/¯.And too bad: this is one of the best distro when it comes to my requirement of having a no-AI/LLM policy ( src: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/AI_policy )
       
 (DIR) Post #B6eUqu7qOQC9HXA4no by kimael@mamot.fr
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       @davidrevoy the complicated part is only when you want to tune it.It is actually easy to install when you use defaults for everything and the default  binary kernel.Just "click" and wait while it compiles ;)And you could (or not) tune it later (no need to "re-install from scratch" then, only wait while it re-compiles :)Maybe I can help if necessary?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6eUvi0irZZ59k7b4i by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @kimael No problem, at Linux Mint 19, the KDE edition was officially discontinued (with a EOL around 2020); they felt it was a duplicate effort with Kubuntu around and KDE Neon User Edition. About your friend: yes, it is still possible to install on the top of the xcfce or cinnamon edition manually a KDE desktop on top of Mint; but also a lot of post cleaning and adjustment to get a clean result.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6eV2q4vGXYMClUBzE by kimael@mamot.fr
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       @davidrevoy Ok thanks for the feed back, again.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6eVScoZCdZGb58CzQ by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @kimael As I said, I already tried. And it didn't meet my user friendly requirement. But I understand the appeal of Gentoo when it come to offering the full DIY kit for compiling anything and the level of thin granularity when it comes to to set things exactly as one wants. But thanks for proposing your help! I appreciate it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6eXX6lpy8dsZR7Vh2 by teabynameteabynature@cupoftea.social
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       @davidrevoy This is fantastic! Thank you for putting so much detail into this guide. It's been a long time since I have stepped away from Ubuntu and Mint, but I now have a KDE Neon Live USB to play with and see if it's stable enough with my laptop.😀
       
 (DIR) Post #B6eYw3TTSeBvXczT1s by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @teabynameteabynature Thank you for testing and for your feedback! The live USB method is a good idea; you'll immediately see if your tablet is supported or not this way. (also, if your tablet model has a driver on https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libevdev/udev-hid-bpf/-/releases , this one can be installed quickly with the ./install.sh bash script on top of the live-USB session. Just unplug/replug the device after installing the udev-hid-bpf; and you'll see if the tablet works correctly, very convenient for testing)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6sGyFh4OwgaQ3RARs by jmat8@mastodon.social
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       @davidrevoy Both Debian and flathub have switched their upstream of DisplayCAL to the actively maintained displaycal-py3.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6solAzlxI2YWa7beq by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @jmat8 Good news, Ill put myself a reminder to update this info in the article, its a fundamental stone for visual creators on Linux.
       
 (DIR) Post #B7O9WU79k6JedlyT7g by motivated_tomato@app.wafrn.net
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       @davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgI've been a non display tablet user for 5 years and this is the first time I hear about different aspect ratios between the screen and the tablet. I always felt uncomfortable drawing in digital, so I checked and indeed, I've been drawing with a bad ratio all this time! It's a small difference, but it feels way more natural now! Thank you for the guide!!
       
 (DIR) Post #B7O9Y6LT5RBNV7RJJY by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @motivated_tomato Great! Thank you for reading, your feedback, and testing the paragraph.
       
 (DIR) Post #B7u7PiYbZyZyohkpNY by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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       @ububu True, but I found it counter Intuitive on my career that, for Krita , for example, an i3 with powerful Ghz cores will perform better than i7 with smaller Ghz power.