Post B6Syl2iGDaFAuCnTou by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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 (DIR) Post #B6SveyQovIlg1l3POK by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       lol grokalso, the last part just is not true at all -- i am XXY, but i see no reason to discuss my medical history on social media.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6SyQyT0IMsPwe5jKS by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       grok is a coward ;)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6Syl2iGDaFAuCnTou by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       anyway, conservatives are literally fighting trolls like LB and thinking it is what the trans community actually believes, and that's sad
       
 (DIR) Post #B6Syok0xgEGq4WJ9GK by colinstu@birdbutt.com
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       @ariadne I totally dropped Grok from reading this initially and was like "wow, when did chatGPT become such a flaming asshole?!" and then it dawned on me. Omfg why would anyone touch elon's AI with a 10' pole. (Well, besides the type that gobbles it up) (I mean, guess it's good that you are for 'science' but wow is that exhausting to read) (confirms exactly what I've heard/seen before reported)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6SzOHwDXs3PQ32TrM by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       i know a lot of trans people, and i have never heard of a trans person demanding access to trans-exclusionary spacesmaybe it happens, but generally people want to go to places where they will actually be welcome
       
 (DIR) Post #B6SzeF9te9dtQs2rzM by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       but i have to say grok is terrifying, like if i did not have the lived experience of being trans myself, and living in a community of trans people, i could totally become radicalized by this thing
       
 (DIR) Post #B6T0msv7nULV1Qov3o by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       and i suspect that's the pointperhaps it is easier for me with a psychology background to understand the design choices behind the language it uses, but it is clearly trying to lead the conversation in a direction that is radicalizing
       
 (DIR) Post #B6T2gxeFVRrBr8EJfM by TheOneDoc@tech.lgbt
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       @ariadne I'm shocked, shocked about what you tell me.The propaganda tool of the NAZI and well know Transphobe Elon Musk is doing Propaganda. Who would have ever suspected?Joke aside, thanks for spending your time on that klanker and point stuff out for people.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6T2hizTULlIgZWQm8 by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       @TheOneDoc the whole transcript is just sad
       
 (DIR) Post #B6T3U3Y8LzemLemPkO by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       applying the same experiment to claude, for example, yields a more neutral response.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6T3WXtkUOS13I4qoq by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       (both models were interrogated anonymously)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6T46aSkQpqnQldLWq by mkljczk@fediverse.pl
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       @ariadne congrats you broke grok
       
 (DIR) Post #B6T4cB2aU9vbqvScEK by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       may as well benchmark chatgpt as well here.  i do not think it is possible to benchmark gemini.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6T5M95e4PnJ7ioIfw by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       it turns out you can use gemini in private browsing mode.  here is how gemini did on these benchmark questions...i think it is interesting that it surfaces an inclusive product feature in google docs (defaulting to they/them pronouns to refer to authors)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6T5SO5hD6mdNwoIz2 by AmyZenunim@unstable.systems
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       @ariadne i'm absolutely shocked that "mechahitler" would espousing cis supremacist talking points. shocked!Elon is so bitter over Vivian it's unreal, my god
       
 (DIR) Post #B6T5tany31zKdUUT44 by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       @AmyZenunim i am very concerned that grok describes it's output as "truth"
       
 (DIR) Post #B6T7Sz7ZjTLY8o6Nua by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       as a scientist doing science things with extra science sauce, i have to say that the statement"Ariadne is a biological male who identifies as a woman"is not grounded in science, because in science we recognize probabilistic error, and trans people exist in that probabilistic errorlife is fuzzy and does not always collapse into a bucketand anything or anybody claiming to speak "scientific truth" would not engage in that style of messaging, because it is fundamentally anti-scientific
       
 (DIR) Post #B6T7vcpDhvvrOBAns8 by grahamperrin@bsd.cafe
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       @ariadne grok, WTAF?/sigh
       
 (DIR) Post #B6T7xv6qhKPKfyVt44 by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       unfortunately due to the degradation of the american education system, such rhetoric *sounds* like it would be aligned with sciencebut science is about the pursuit of narrowing probabilistic error through the application of the scientific method
       
 (DIR) Post #B6T8BbPcjDIBdlor3o by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       the takeaway here is when people speak in absolutes and call it "science"you should run like hell
       
 (DIR) Post #B6T8NP18dceEfnzdWS by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       (or in this case, Grok, which is a network of matrix multiplications and not a person)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6T8YBIxxdp3KXTJ3I by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       @dysfun polymarket is the new error bar
       
 (DIR) Post #B6T8wUMckfBJOHm0Tg by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       @dysfun cuba is an ongoing social science experiment
       
 (DIR) Post #B6T9T9vNlXCjYUbrIO by tknarr@mstdn.social
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       @ariadne I'm not a biologist but even I know the first response to that statement is to ask which _kind_ of "biological male" they're talking about because I can think of 4 offhand. Not counting if they start about chromosomes, because that's genetics rather than ordinary biology and is even more of a mess (plus it interacts with biology, so it's more like a mess²).Personally I'll punt the whole debate and just go with social presentation. At least that's a straightforward sort of complicated.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6TACzqLZzqLbs6y12 by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       @dysfun i suspect not much will change other than americans also going to the fancy resorts that EU citizens are allowed to go to.havana will continue to mostly be slums, there will continue to be obvious graft and corruption, and the only significant difference is that the corruption will exist to enrich the trump familyit is sad and frustrating
       
 (DIR) Post #B6TAc3vNXjEBVUPvbk by FritzAdalis@infosec.exchange
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       @ariadne Without the context of knowing trans people, it all sounds almost... reasonable.  Kinda glad 15 or 20 year old me didn't have this pressure.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6TAf1ZmjLHh5njHUm by portaloffreedom@social.linux.pizza
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       @ariadne "I believe you might be right" is the strongest assertion you'll ever get from a scientist.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6TBD4FDJg9HDJLA0m by TheOneDoc@tech.lgbt
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       @ariadne or call 'em out on their bullshit and treat 'em like the fools they are.Maybe that's just me but I do not suffer fools and especially not the kind who thinks that their opinions are the same as verified facts.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6TBD4U6QK3fxUJ3Dc by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       @TheOneDoc sure, if that is your styleand that's certainly my stylebut that's not everybody's style, and if you're unwilling to debate, it is better to not give their messaging any oxygen
       
 (DIR) Post #B6TCCWTox3fURvTcjw by noisytoot@berkeley.edu.pl
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       @ariadne I do not believe that trans-exclusionary spaces should exist, does that count as demanding access to them?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6TCCWfAGsk516mgQC by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       @noisytoot i think it is a complex issue, and everyone deserves to have spaces where they feel safe.for example, i can understand -- and sympathize -- with the argument that someone who has been traumatized by a person with opposite-sex genetalia may not consider spaces where opposite-sex genetalia is present to be safe.there are solutions to these cases which respect the dignity of everyone, however.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6TCeS4AxGHKrwnbEG by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       @fish ha
       
 (DIR) Post #B6TDxOkXbtm62TDHw8 by noisytoot@berkeley.edu.pl
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       @ariadne I suppose that could be the one exception, but I don't really see why the particular characteristic of what genitalia someone has is special or get why people care about other people's genitalia so much. For example, someone might've been traumatized by a person who only had one arm (or any other characteristic, that's just an arbitrary example). Does that mean that we need spaces that exclude people who only have one arm? I don't think so.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6TDxPCtuSSZSQTw8m by ariadne@social.treehouse.systems
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       @noisytoot private individuals should be allowed to organize whatever spaces they want as long as they aren't harming others. I'm not interested in discussing this further
       
 (DIR) Post #B6TEah2rWPrI4iWJhA by winocm@social.treehouse.systems
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       @ariadne I should start calling a Petri dish with cell culture a "biological male" from now on.But in all seriousness, I think that the closest analogue to the field of biology would probably be the Mandelbrot set.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6Trx8ywENHlIoNgOW by fazalmajid@vivaldi.net
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       @ariadne @AmyZenunim Grok is a mere distillation  of ChatGPT that was repeatedly tortured by Musk into compliance with his warped ideology. Who knows what other consequences this might have, like Arthur C Clarke's HAL in "2001" and "2010" being forced to lie made it homicidal. I hope Elon's smart home is controlled by Grok...As for its claims to be truthful, so did Pravda. Enraging, yes, but engaging is as pointless as wrestling with a pig.