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(DIR) Post #B6LhBsV58bSNlkYlVI by Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta@poa.st
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That simple reallyRT: https://nicecrew.digital/objects/63d579e1-98f9-416b-81c7-687eedb9b7f3
(DIR) Post #B6LhBsgQSQWyKvrpBY by GoonPatrol@poa.st
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That's excluding the vast majority of the sea-faring nations since they are all under jew control.How many countries don't have a rothchild banking system installed?
(DIR) Post #B6LhBsqLrWTEpiVkem by Sovereign@nicecrew.digital
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@GoonPatrol @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta Probably most of the communist ones have state banking instead of private banking. Are there others?
(DIR) Post #B6LhBszDKZYlHCepTE by Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta@poa.st
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Probably only cuba is still communist in any real sense though.
(DIR) Post #B6LhBtCKXo3FvsnIum by shortstories@merovingian.club
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@Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @Sovereign @GoonPatrol Twin Oaks is the closest thing to real communism that really works in real life that I know ofThey sell goods to outsiders then distribute to community members in a for needs basis in a communist mannerThe trick to real communism working without creating poverty is being allowed to reject people from the communityCommunism with open membership and open borders always leads to mass starvation
(DIR) Post #B6LhBtNfrd7qV46Mb2 by multiversal_gangstalker@poa.st
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no utopian or experimental ideology survives contact with jews or browns
(DIR) Post #B6LhBtYfClur39F8j2 by Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta@poa.st
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There's nothing utopian in believing all men are equal and that there is no God. Its dystopian by definition because both axioms are false.
(DIR) Post #B6LhBthWfp0NUdODXU by Sovereign@nicecrew.digital
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@Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @shortstories @GoonPatrol @multiversal_gangstalker What about Liberation Theology though?
(DIR) Post #B6LhBtq2ABoJv1N0ng by Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta@poa.st
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Judeochristianity the bside. There's a reason it only (kinda) worked on brown mutts in the new world but nowhere else.
(DIR) Post #B6LhBtyBfsKgKJBWVc by Sovereign@nicecrew.digital
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@Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @shortstories @GoonPatrol @multiversal_gangstalker Judeochristianity worry is probably why some of these movements went the secular route (even if later reversing some of those policies) IMO.
(DIR) Post #B6LhBuAEx3yQvgp9IO by multiversal_gangstalker@poa.st
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marxism is an inherently atheistic religion
(DIR) Post #B6LhBuKsJWTrSfnds8 by Sovereign@nicecrew.digital
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@multiversal_gangstalker @shortstories @GoonPatrol @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta Yeah, especially ML types. However it is important to also get to the essence of some of these things. Religion has often been used by the powers that be to enforce the status quo. I don't know if people really would argue that this is always false. However Marx wasn't really obsessed with "proving god doesn't exist" as you'd expect a Atheist to:Some scholars classify Marx not as a typical "atheist" who is obsessed with proving God doesn't exist, but as a "post-theist" who viewed god-worship as an obsolete stage of history.
(DIR) Post #B6LhDkSc06PFPgIQl6 by multiversal_gangstalker@poa.st
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it's also a part of the materialist horseshit baked into marxism
(DIR) Post #B6LhDkhr5QbEAxQbWC by Sovereign@nicecrew.digital
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@multiversal_gangstalker @shortstories @GoonPatrol @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta Well I "get it" in the sense that you don't really "need" religion to operate a economic and political system. However, I think some of the historical arguments on atheism are a bit dated.Historical materialism likes to basically think of itself as a science. However, science is neither atheist nor theist in nature. To claim god exists or doesn't exist is a immaterial question. You would first have to define god (something that is probably impossible in a diverse society) and find ways of measuring if god exists or not. These are not scientific questions so therefore it would be a mistake for a modern Marxist to claim to be either atheist or a theist if they are trying to be true to their principles. I think part of this is that atheism meant something a little different before than it does today. More on this here:
(DIR) Post #B6LhDkuGLIWYnREVrE by Sovereign@nicecrew.digital
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@multiversal_gangstalker @GoonPatrol @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @shortstories
(DIR) Post #B6LhDl5xdnsjNihr5k by James_Dixon@poa.st
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Lack of belief is agnosticism, not atheism.
(DIR) Post #B6LhDlFB5XFpqJ1DSS by thatfightnerd@poa.st
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Agnosticism is a lack of certainty, atheism is a lack of belief.
(DIR) Post #B6LhDlQAQg2qOO9zaS by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
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I don’t see how “atheism” is “lack of belief“ - as the word clearly means “not-God-ism”.
(DIR) Post #B6LhDlcDhrgazlncNE by zeke@nicecrew.digital
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Most atheists actually believe in God; they just hate him. They never rail against Allah, Buddha, Lord Ganesh, etc... but they've got plenty of venom for Yahweh & Jesus Christ.
(DIR) Post #B6LhDlrSnBsZl2vn8K by thefinn@poa.st
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I think "American Christianity" has had a lot to do with that problem.
(DIR) Post #B6LhDm1kAy6QGvk09o by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
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While I’m no Protestant, the general “tone and timbre” of American Christianity, while starkly divided, was actually doing pretty darn bangin at ordering societies up until the 20th Century
(DIR) Post #B6LhDmDnS9kAsJNcwa by thatfightnerd@poa.st
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It's fundamentalism. There was at least some understanding that religion and science could reasonably coexist with accomodation, and then the Red Scare happened, the Dulles brothers got the bright idea to weaponize religion, and we've been in backslide ever since.
(DIR) Post #B6LhDmO4pvy1OCBpy4 by thefinn@poa.st
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People don't want to listen to it man.Even when explaining the Jews - the Jews WROTE THE OLD TESTAMENT.Do you not think it's reasonable to ask where they got this information and how they decided upon it?But they never look into how the Jews do things. And consider it all "divine" when it's not. It was a bunch of Jews sitting around arguing until they all decided someone had won the argument. The entire jewish religion starts out with Abraham arguing with god and "winning the argument".This is the basis for their whole religion - this is your old testament. It has nothing to do with divine beings from the sky.
(DIR) Post #B6LhDmXIHfL7qmVCKm by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
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Even if it were true that the OT were ahistorical (a claim I highly doubt), it misses the point entirely. The OT was written centuries before the Incarnation of Christ, and was positively stuffed with Messianic Prophecy that wasn’t fulfilled until hundreds of years after all the authors had died. No merely-human agency at any level could possibly pull that off. That’s its actual significance
(DIR) Post #B6QkO0JlAayP8sXNOy by h4890@merovingian.club
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@Charles_in_Charge @shortstories @Sovereign @zeke @GoonPatrol @James_Dixon @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @KingOfWhiteAmerica @multiversal_gangstalker @thatfightnerd @thefinn I do understand your yearning for god and meaning in life, and that requires, for some people, the belief in ghosts and spirits, and from a pragmatic point of view, this is ok. it gives you please, a feeling of superiority over "scientists" and a deep convition that there is "something else".
(DIR) Post #B6QkO0b880rs0kfFTc by h4890@merovingian.club
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@Charles_in_Charge @shortstories @Sovereign @zeke @GoonPatrol @James_Dixon @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @KingOfWhiteAmerica @multiversal_gangstalker @thatfightnerd @thefinn But the scientific facts remain, there is no god, demons, or supernatural, since no one has ever presented empirical proof of it. Freud taught us that religion is a mental illness, or something similar to the appendix, psychologically speaking, so it
(DIR) Post #B6QkO0vKut1z1Q7NyK by James_Dixon@poa.st
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> But the scientific facts remain, there is no god, demons, or supernatural, since no one has ever presented empirical proof of it. And there you go again. This is a logical fallacy known as argument from ignorance (argumentum ad ignorantiam) or an appeal to ignorance.What is real does not require proof to exist. It already is. It merely remains for it to be discovered.Did Antarctica not exist before we discovered it? Did magnets not exist before we discovered them? Did protons and electrons not exist before we discovered them? If gods, demons, or the supernatural exist, they exist independently of your empirical truth. You can argue you will not believe in their existence until it is proven. You cannot argue they do not exist.> Freud taught us that religion is a mental illness, or something similar to the appendix, psychologically speakingFreud didn't teach us anything but that he suffered from several mental illnesses himself.
(DIR) Post #B6QkO172DOO9bhajCq by h4890@merovingian.club
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@James_Dixon @shortstories @Sovereign @zeke @Charles_in_Charge @GoonPatrol @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @KingOfWhiteAmerica @multiversal_gangstalker @thatfightnerd @thefinn Incorrect. At some point, complete agnosticism becomes ridiculous which Russells teapot shows us. If there is no empirical evidence, for 1000s of years, from 8 billion people, it does not exist. if you show me repeatable empirical evidence, that can be tested in a laboratory, I will change my mind.
(DIR) Post #B6QkO1INXDSkAstmt6 by h4890@merovingian.club
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@James_Dixon @shortstories @Sovereign @zeke @Charles_in_Charge @GoonPatrol @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @KingOfWhiteAmerica @multiversal_gangstalker @thatfightnerd @thefinn You make hte positive claim so the burden of proof rests on you. You have not presented any empirical evidence, therefore what you claim does not exist as far as I am concerned.
(DIR) Post #B6QkO1Tir2XKk4CqZM by James_Dixon@poa.st
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> You make hte positive claim so the burden of proof rests on youI haven't made any positive claim. You have.I haven't claimed the supernatural exists. You've claimed it doesn't.I've said that if it does exist it exists whether it's proven to your satisfaction or not. Which is obviously true.
(DIR) Post #B6QkO1cELPLHASBdpY by h4890@merovingian.club
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@James_Dixon @shortstories @Sovereign @zeke @Charles_in_Charge @GoonPatrol @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @KingOfWhiteAmerica @multiversal_gangstalker @thatfightnerd @thefinn I have not made any positive claims beyond the empirically proven facts of science. There was someone ravings about ghosts and demons, maybe it wasn't you, and those threads are lost in time like tears in rain. if something exists without any evidence, or especially, without being part of the physical world,
(DIR) Post #B6QkO1mrhrqhhRA8PI by James_Dixon@poa.st
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> I have not made any positive claims beyond the empirically proven facts of science. You have claimed something does not exist. It's up to you to prove its non-existence.
(DIR) Post #B6QkO1zcwQ3cL18KIa by h4890@merovingian.club
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@James_Dixon @shortstories @Sovereign @zeke @Charles_in_Charge @GoonPatrol @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @KingOfWhiteAmerica @multiversal_gangstalker @thatfightnerd @thefinn Are you mad? Clearly you have no clue about science. You provide proof for a positive claim, the burden of proof is on you. Go back to school boy and return when you are educated.
(DIR) Post #B6QkO226nC2gSiIJAO by h4890@merovingian.club
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@James_Dixon @shortstories @Sovereign @zeke @Charles_in_Charge @GoonPatrol @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @KingOfWhiteAmerica @multiversal_gangstalker @thatfightnerd @thefinn we can safely disregard it until evidence is presented.
(DIR) Post #B6Qqjk1P2RTMhFhQ1Y by Snidely_Whiplash@nicecrew.digital
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There is plenty of empirical evidence. You simply refuse to consider it.
(DIR) Post #B6QqjkH06RwvTczsKu by h4890@merovingian.club
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@Snidely_Whiplash @shortstories @Sovereign @zeke @Charles_in_Charge @GoonPatrol @James_Dixon @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @KingOfWhiteAmerica @multiversal_gangstalker @thatfightnerd @thefinn Nope. See previous post. Study a bit of science and you can come back to the game.
(DIR) Post #B6QsHiUXKkA9kd5hVA by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@h4890 @James_Dixon @shortstories @Sovereign @zeke @Charles_in_Charge @GoonPatrol @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @KingOfWhiteAmerica @multiversal_gangstalker @thatfightnerd @thefinn Remember this next time you hear him prattle about something else, like covid. This is his version of science in a nutshell:"real science is when it agrees with me, fake and gay science is when it doesn't"ie he's not just downstream of some of the dumbest wellness grifters in history, but severely locked into his ignorance. He's also got meta-problems of why he's incapable of changing since he doesn't see himself as responsible for his own actions, so there's no moral imperative for him to do *anything*. Lack of self-correction from an epistemology standpoint, lack of self-correction from science + a bunch of ignorant, dangerous beliefs = he is one of the worst examples of weaponized stupidity you'll find online.
(DIR) Post #B6QsHipS4ytQnUsP6O by h4890@merovingian.club
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@jeffcliff @shortstories @Sovereign @zeke @Charles_in_Charge @GoonPatrol @James_Dixon @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @KingOfWhiteAmerica @multiversal_gangstalker @thatfightnerd @thefinn Amen, and thank you for the warning! I stopped listening to him a while ago, and now I'm just triggering him a little bit for my own pleasure. But when god and the supernatural is questioned, people who built their identity around it always go bananas. It is sad, but very common.
(DIR) Post #B6QsHj1VMAXBOsW1tA by James_Dixon@poa.st
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Thinks jeffcliff is a voice of reason and wonders why we all are laughing at him. 😆
(DIR) Post #B6RW3u33Z73vhqCn44 by KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st
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It’s really misplaced faith in the establishment on display; the truth is the truth, independently of whether or not the Ivory Tower has approved of it. Trusting the Sciencists to represent authentic objectivity rather than their own material interests is the height of absurd foolishness. It’s idolatry plain and simple, dressed in a lab coat.
(DIR) Post #B6RW3uKmVDEyaoUwgy by h4890@merovingian.club
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @shortstories @Snidely_Whiplash @Sovereign @zeke @Charles_in_Charge @GoonPatrol @James_Dixon @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @multiversal_gangstalker @thatfightnerd @thefinn We have take off! 🚀
(DIR) Post #B6RW3uXXjlRtEOT8aG by Snidely_Whiplash@nicecrew.digital
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You "I Fucking Love Science (sexually)" retards have the all scientific understanding of Bill Nye, the Science Guy.
(DIR) Post #B6RW3uouhBLM6Gb0eu by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
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I LOVE FUCKING SCIENCE
(DIR) Post #B6SZBxQvMG5hXdrTJA by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@James_Dixon @h4890 @shortstories @Sovereign @zeke @Charles_in_Charge @GoonPatrol @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @KingOfWhiteAmerica @multiversal_gangstalker @thatfightnerd @thefinn not sure why you came off mute, back to mute you go.
(DIR) Post #B6SZBxhaMJQ0NJemHI by James_Dixon@poa.st
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> not sure why you came off mute, back to mute you go.Probably simple incompetence on your part, Jeff, like so many other things.
(DIR) Post #B6SZBxrrk5dqtCSzIm by shortstories@merovingian.club
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@James_Dixon @h4890 @Sovereign @zeke @Charles_in_Charge @GoonPatrol @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @KingOfWhiteAmerica @multiversal_gangstalker @thatfightnerd @thefinn @jeffcliff Jeff never takes his oven mitts off even while typing online or is that a different Jeff
(DIR) Post #B6SaAF5CrjlzekRuQC by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@h4890 @Snidely_Whiplash @shortstories @Sovereign @zeke @Charles_in_Charge @GoonPatrol @James_Dixon @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @KingOfWhiteAmerica @multiversal_gangstalker @thatfightnerd @thefinn Keep in mind that snidely_whiplash isn't interested in truth at all, purely the perception of things"perception is all that matters - we just convince people that $x the cause of all the problems and that'll be that"this is how he operates - he is purely PR/gaslighting/manipulating people he talks to and if you treat him as being interested in truth at all sooner or later he's going to catch you in his (perhaps randomly levels of convincing) lies. ie he's interested in convincing the public of $x not whether $x is true for any $x. He knows he lies, and he's ok with his lying -- he should be treated no differently than a LLM, really -- incapable of 'learning science' because that's not how he works
(DIR) Post #B6SaAFMvnpx2Xik436 by h4890@merovingian.club
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@jeffcliff @shortstories @Snidely_Whiplash @Sovereign @zeke @Charles_in_Charge @GoonPatrol @James_Dixon @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @KingOfWhiteAmerica @multiversal_gangstalker @thatfightnerd @thefinn Ahh... that's a good point! Yes, maybe I should stop now. After all, I do have a business to run so there is only so much time I can allow mastodon to take from me.