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(DIR) Post #B6KD4Df9NgoxIsk16O by slashdot@mastodon.cloud
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Honda Retreats To Hybrids After Failed EV Bet Triggers Record $9 Billion Loss https://tech.slashdot.org/story/26/05/15/0244239/honda-retreats-to-hybrids-after-failed-ev-bet-triggers-record-9-billion-loss?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon
(DIR) Post #B6KD4DqqgCB7tADMKu by h4890@merovingian.club
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@slashdot Read my lips... for regular people the technology is not yet mature. Maybe in 5-10 years, maybe.
(DIR) Post #B6KD4E2txNosUXqz7g by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@h4890 @slashdot Garbage. EVs work great. Even hybrids are amazing. There's a guy local here who just filled up his tank for the first time this year last week. Beats the hell out of more war in the middle east for oil
(DIR) Post #B6KKAtlYSECLIjrvKS by h4890@merovingian.club
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@jeffcliff @slashdot Nope. Not if you live in a country with winter, without places to charge them. Add to that, that they cost about 1.5-2x of the equivalent gasoline driven car, have less range, and over their life cycle, destroy the environment more. In their current shape, they are nothing but a con.
(DIR) Post #B6KKAu19WEfu57ANdo by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@h4890 @slashdot buddy i live in canada. they are great in the winter, the 'not good in winter' thing is pure FUD> Add to that, that they cost about 1.5-2x of the equivalent gasoline driven car,...until you factor in the cost of gasAnd the 'have less range' advantage is getting awful thin. For hybrids it's almost nonexistent.the *ONLY* question is 'without places to charge them' which, in north america, is a narrowing area with time and already not an issue for the vast majority of people. The nordic countries are leading the way for what canada is going to follow, the only real issue is the "who knows what we'll be paying tomorrow" tariffs make manufacturing vehicles in north america risky. That's it.
(DIR) Post #B6KOVH79kr51K6wcZU by h4890@merovingian.club
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@jeffcliff @slashdot Incorrect. They lose about half the reach. As for cost, electricity in europe is so expensive, there's no great difference, once you factor in the 1.5-2x cost of a car. But sure... if you live in africa and drive all day long, there might be a case. But for europe, with european electricity prices and temperatures, gasoline powered cars are the cheapeast option. I can buy a good used one for 5-10k EUR and it will last 20
(DIR) Post #B6KOVHwYfkCFtWzfgu by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@h4890 @slashdot >Incorrect. They lose about half the reach. Great. For a current year honda EV that's ~500km which is enough for the vast majority of people and trips> As for cost, electricity in europe is so expensive, there's no great difference, Which is why everyone in the nordic countries is switching to it?If your electricity is expensive, maybe don't shut down your nuclear power plants. Also I find it hard to believe gas is cheaper over there than here, where we are literally in the middle of the world's largest oil supply
(DIR) Post #B6KOVI9JuIPAX6xraC by h4890@merovingian.club
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@jeffcliff @slashdot years. Compare that with a 70k EUR electric, and I can travel enormous distances only due to the initial price difference.
(DIR) Post #B6KOVIaGI7xJsfZNZo by h4890@merovingian.club
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@jeffcliff @slashdot https://carup.se/elbilar-tappar-over-40-i-kyla-man-maste-planera/Read and weep environmental man!
(DIR) Post #B6KOYE9HEoVmzgLOme by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@h4890 @slashdot I don't speak bork bork
(DIR) Post #B6MKfbSqwDDRphgLxY by h4890@merovingian.club
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@jeffcliff @slashdot Are you mad? If the car loses half its range, its defective. Apply that thinking to a gasoline driven car, and the vendor would have to replace it. It also pushes up the cost of driving 2x. You have been fooled! As for sweden, 7% is electric, so no, you are plain wrong there. As for norway, they are socialist, and are swimming in oil, so you got like 50% of the cost subsidized by the government. So that is political and has onthing to do with technology.
(DIR) Post #B6MKfbmhkP5ypGyCu0 by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@h4890 @slashdot > Are you mad? If the car loses half its range, its defective. Apply that thinking to a gasoline driven car, and the vendor would have to replace it. Not if it doesn't involve dying for oil in the middle east, or destabilizing our atmosphere. Every single person I know, including myself hasn't been bothered by it. 500km range is enough for a lot if not the vast majority of people, including my household.> It also pushes up the cost of driving 2x. You have been fooled! No, it hasn't. It's net cheaper to not have to use gas, and to not have to repair the ~50x more complexity in an ICE vehicle.> As for norway, they are socialist, You say this like it's a bad thing.> and are swimming in oil, so you got like 50% of the cost subsidized by the government.As opposed to the US which does the same thing with fossil fuel cars within living memory having to bail out the entire gas guzzling auto industry? Vehicle manufacture is a subsidized and regulated industry, period.> So that is political and has onthing to do with technology.No, it's everything to do with technology. They invested in technology that made it possible to do this both as individuals and as a society.
(DIR) Post #B6MLIpJjMoyG5g7PO4 by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
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@jeffcliff @slashdot @h4890 electric vehicles are good for bug men who don't care about cool shit like engines. Aka gays
(DIR) Post #B6MLIpUihxlGdlGBW4 by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@dt_oid @slashdot @h4890 as if evs don't run on engines?? wtaf
(DIR) Post #B6MLRlkU0JXzd4tb04 by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
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@jeffcliff @slashdot @h4890 they run on electric motors not engines RETARD
(DIR) Post #B6MLRlvTLSL0BA2N84 by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@dt_oid @slashdot @h4890 > An engine or motor is a machine designed to convert one or more forms of energy into mechanical energybattery -> mechanical energy
(DIR) Post #B6MMxVnGxZARMmttFw by Deunan@kiwifarms.cc
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@dt_oid @jeffcliff @h4890 @slashdot but they invented other cool shit like speakers in your electric car so it sounds like you're doing cool shit
(DIR) Post #B6MMxW9FdqkSSxBRVw by dumpster@kiwifarms.cc
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@Deunan @dt_oid @h4890 @jeffcliff @slashdot Existing car companies going hard on EVs is retarded. Anybody who wants an EV can buy a Tesla and will probably have a better experience. Normal people want shit they know they can fill up absolutely anywhere and isn't going to be worthless in 10 years because the battery has turned into an enormous paperweight.Don't even give a shit if EVs are funner to drive and actually somehow better for the environment, the reality is it's just not going to fucking work with the way things are and they should stop wasting my money subsidizing this garbage. I don't give a shit about the middle east.
(DIR) Post #B6MMxWVaIoc3aDdHKC by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@dumpster @Deunan @dt_oid @slashdot @h4890 > Existing car companies going hard on EVs is retarded.No, it's not retarded, it's necessary and desirable.> Anybody who wants an EV can buy a Tesla Tesla needs competition if or no reason other than that it's proprietary and locked down as fuck, and elon musk benefits from every car sold. And while it is true that he is part canadian most of the benefits to him getting fantastically richer stay with him/the US> Normal people want shit they know they can fill up absolutely anywhereFirst of all, electricity is everywhere. Secondly, no they don't care about whether or not you can fill up in antarctica or wherever boonies you are talking about, becuase they don't go there.> and isn't going to be worthless in 10 years because the battery has turned into an enormous paperweight.And if batteries continue to get cheaper, as they have been? Then in 10 years not only will it not be worthless it'll be one cheap battery away from being almost as valuaable as new. Car manufacturers are scared shitless of this fact because they know right well that if their competition starts building recycleable, replacable batteries their 'buy a car every N years' gig is done.> somehow better for the environment, They are.> the reality is it's just not going to fucking work with the way things are They are already working, this isn't a hypothetical. Nations like norway are ahead of the curve and showing us what we will be doing in a decade or two.> and they should stop wasting my money subsidizing this garbage.That's fine. Stop wasting my money subsidizing your garbage, then.> I don't give a shit about the middle east.Clearly, but since you want to drive an oil-burning car you should be front of the line in the invasion of iran, but you're clearly not willing to do that, and as such are a hypocrite expecting someone else's children to do that for you.
(DIR) Post #B6MMzYvUHgCRf2ikC0 by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
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@jeffcliff @slashdot @h4890 your definition fails to refute my argument that evs are GAY
(DIR) Post #B6MMzZ3zm30O5QhXSC by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@dt_oid @slashdot @h4890 I don't dispute that fact. I take that as a feature not a bug.
(DIR) Post #B6MN33eeUcfdpfVrZw by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@Deunan @dt_oid @slashdot @h4890 yeah those are hillarious, but unfortunate
(DIR) Post #B6MN3uu4W1Uqyq8QTI by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
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@Deunan @h4890 @jeffcliff @slashdot and TABLETS FOR EVERYTHING HAHA I LOVE SHITTY TOUCHSCREENS FOR EVERY FUNCTION IN THE CAR
(DIR) Post #B6MN77jfGKPjeBnQNU by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@dt_oid @Deunan @slashdot @h4890 yeah not a big fan of that part, i'll grant. hopefully the next generation starts pushing back against this trend.
(DIR) Post #B6MNBliYYGeUo9UbdQ by Deunan@kiwifarms.cc
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@dumpster @dt_oid @h4890 @jeffcliff @slashdot T. Totally not Elon Musk
(DIR) Post #B6MNFLh9FHQzG4XcGG by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
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@jeffcliff @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 CONTEND WITH THE ARGUMENT STOP GISHGALLOPING HOW DOES YOUR WORLD VIEW ACCOUNT FOR THE FACT THAT EVS ARE HOMOSEXUAL
(DIR) Post #B6MNFLyAE12s6qVCme by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@dt_oid @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 IT ACCEPTS THAT FACT AND ACCEPTS HOMOSEXUALS AS A NORMAL HEALTHY PART OF SOCIETY
(DIR) Post #B6MNGQs7U11LbVBpAG by Deunan@kiwifarms.cc
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@dt_oid @jeffcliff @dumpster @h4890 @slashdot HEY I RESENT THAT STATEMENT, THE SUBARU OUTBACK HAS BEEN THE STAPLE CAR FOR LESBAINS FOR CLOSE TO 2 DECADES NOW
(DIR) Post #B6MNHN2lCbzk1Ic8no by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@Deunan @dt_oid @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 TIL
(DIR) Post #B6MNZxVINnJoJOpCDY by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
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@jeffcliff @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 so you admit it's faggotry heh I win again (debate w/L = 10482 to 0)
(DIR) Post #B6MNeaAeYsKxOUNGO8 by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@dt_oid @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 only if we accept your homophobia as the deciding factor of the argument.
(DIR) Post #B6MNhTXBgzilgDIHrc by porkcow@shitposter.world
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@slashdot “Your universe has no meaning to them. They will not try to understand. They will be tired, they will get the shakes, they will buy crack with your beautiful copper charging stations...”― Jean Raspail, The Camp of the Saints
(DIR) Post #B6MNj2vfa3wLkEUhzU by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@porkcow @slashdot is that a real The Camp of the Saints quote
(DIR) Post #B6MNyxsc7axCiZehl2 by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
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@jeffcliff @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 grok what % of pedophiles are gay?
(DIR) Post #B6MNyyFejvNxs2R6fo by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@dt_oid @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 * EVs are gay* some gays are pedosyour conclusion is what?
(DIR) Post #B6MO5Y0sgvzeWMf4Hw by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@slashdot i bet the fedi discussion is gonna be bigger than the /. one
(DIR) Post #B6MOLh40oGH5DwpCds by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
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@jeffcliff @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 evs are pedos
(DIR) Post #B6MOLhIBxXcJvvSWkC by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@dt_oid @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 your logical fallacy is: undistributed middlehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_NDPiiDi5A
(DIR) Post #B6MOLrxKJSSl0OmWFU by lord_nougat@nicecrew.digital
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They're turning the electrons gay!
(DIR) Post #B6MP7xHFpaf3PS21g0 by Xenophon@nicecrew.digital
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Jeff how are fags normal and/or healthy? They all have AIDS, at least half would exist if they weren't literally raped as children, and they cant reproduce (no evolutionary impetus).
(DIR) Post #B6MP7xUN2p9Y48AV7Y by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
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@Xenophon @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 @jeffcliff they actually do reproduce by diddling children in the back of their Tesla model S in 2015 behind the del taco in LA
(DIR) Post #B6MP7xf0PHeyb78zhI by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@dt_oid @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 @Xenophon no, that is not how it works.
(DIR) Post #B6MPBxOxJMB8x9Xg6y by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@Xenophon @Deunan @dt_oid @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 1) AIDS is mostly a straight person thing these days, with covid causing it2) rape does not cause gay3) good, too many people are breeders.
(DIR) Post #B6MPGbOuXLGeAPji1g by ElDeadKennedy@shitposter.world
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@jeffcliff @Xenophon @Deunan @dt_oid @dumpster @h4890 @slashdot COVID causes AIDS?
(DIR) Post #B6MPJQmMU70Y5p3PNI by dt_oid@kiwifarms.cc
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@jeffcliff @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 @Xenophon adding anti-natalism to the list WE'RE REACHING LEVELS OF BUGMAN PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT IMPOSSIBLE
(DIR) Post #B6MPJRAT2UI3IaKewq by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@dt_oid @Deunan @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 @Xenophon [jeffcliff is ] "an early prototype of what the average bugman will be in the future." - @deesenaughts
(DIR) Post #B6MPRrXCtMdvOGzBrc by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@ElDeadKennedy @Deunan @Xenophon @dt_oid @dumpster @h4890 @slashdot yes, covid damages immune systems similar to HIV except it's airborne. #AirborneAIDS
(DIR) Post #B6MPSYoNzMvzc0M16u by israellight@kiwifarms.cc
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@jeffcliff @Deunan @dt_oid @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 @Xenophon im gay and crazy 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
(DIR) Post #B6MPTv4EjDWavUPrTk by ElDeadKennedy@shitposter.world
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@jeffcliff @Deunan @Xenophon @dt_oid @dumpster @h4890 @slashdot I agree
(DIR) Post #B6MPc2aYeFFiZOPHBw by Deunan@kiwifarms.cc
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@jeffcliff @dt_oid @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 @Xenophon listen Im tired of people telling me how child grooming works, I've been doing this shit for years, I got millions in Robux. People always want to act like getting a kid to join your server is an easy thing, but hell no, if it were so easy why haven't you done it?
(DIR) Post #B6MPc2mFwkbt9fscQS by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@Deunan @dt_oid @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 @Xenophon huh
(DIR) Post #B6MPeJDjmXmIjRoXhI by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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@dt_oid @Deunan @deesenaughts @dumpster @slashdot @h4890 @Xenophon no i believe in free will.
(DIR) Post #B6MQSsvlHqktxpWT44 by SwordFighterSuper@kiwifarms.cc
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@h4890 @slashdot It's good enough to mow my yard, wouldn't trust it beyond that. We need a new battery technology before it'll be as reliable as gas.
(DIR) Post #B6MQfNhMicjOrbkPiq by Deunan@kiwifarms.cc
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@dt_oid @h4890 @jeffcliff @slashdot it's all good, the car DRIVES itself. So you can play subway surfers while you go into oncoming traffic and it has enough time to give you back the controls before the company has to claim liability, why is this so hard for boomers to understand? I just don't get it.