Post B6ISaksmW36Eb1AZea by rose@snac.pinkro.se
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 (DIR) Post #B6INuCRzkA4LpO5ovo by phnt@fluffytail.org
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       >new gnome app store>X11 app support labeled as "unsafe"
       
 (DIR) Post #B6IO9GZ2jOfoviZdaa by icedquinn@blob.cat
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       @phnt yeah flathub has gotten many side eyes for trying to enforce gnome's preferences as policy. there's some of the more kde aligned folk have told them they refuse to use it because flathub has demanded shit like changing their app icon to appease the style police.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6IOcs2aTPdBYjVdtw by icedquinn@blob.cat
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       @phnt there's also been some discussions about better compression which all get "but ostree"'d, i think someone also asked about casync and they just got "but ostree"'d again.it's apparently just a tech demo for ostree, a plant for gnome (and thus RHEL) preference dissemination, and there's some faffing around with bubblewrap that is all very half hearted. bleh
       
 (DIR) Post #B6IRYOrlIlUnmQ0Q76 by mia@shrimptest.0x0.st
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       @phnt i see they’re taking lessons from rust propaganda now
       
 (DIR) Post #B6IS0Y7iTc6ebDtIkS by rose@snac.pinkro.se
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       hasn't that been a thing for a while on flathub?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6IS0YHHu1lL4uMwfQ by phnt@fluffytail.org
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       @rose No clue, haven't used flatpaks in like a year and flathub as a website way longer.Here's the code though:https://github.com/bazaar-org/bazaar/blob/main/src/bz-safety-calculator.c#L145https://github.com/bazaar-org/bazaar/blob/main/src/bz-safety-dialog.c#L243https://github.com/bazaar-org/bazaar/blob/main/src/bz-app-permissions.h#L47 (there's no wayland permission which I think is a valid flatpak permission.)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6IS0YRvGUGlbtLRFA by rose@snac.pinkro.se
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       Oh bazaar, yeah they copied that from flathub and gnome software (screenshot is from flathub)these kinds of brainworms are insane lmao
       
 (DIR) Post #B6IS0YcCeGUc7m9eGe by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
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       @rose @phnt *throws salt in the general direction of gnome*Evil spirits begone!
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ISDqdmwPMpnJEY8e by rose@snac.pinkro.se
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       will this work with systemd as wellCC: @phnt@fluffytail.org
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ISIKlsrH1eOv9wLw by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
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       @rose @phnt systemd might as well be a demon lord at this point, I'm afraid it'll need more than that
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ISaksmW36Eb1AZea by rose@snac.pinkro.se
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       :nod: hm hm i see... time to go hit the salt mines thenCC: @phnt@fluffytail.org
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ISalGB73oZla7G7c by hipsterelectron@circumstances.run
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       @rose @lanodan @phnt crowdsourcing salt from disgruntled systemd users who have been salty for years and have had enough
       
 (DIR) Post #B6IcNHcizJULczsF0a by phnt@fluffytail.org
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       @icedquinn >ostree compressionThere's a 4 year old issue about it: https://github.com/ostreedev/ostree/issues/2626>bubblewrapI hate bwrap and it's dissemination into various projects with zero thoughts. Recently gnome broke everything that was sandboxed manually (like with firejail) and used a gtk file picker. So safe to say basically 90% of gtk apps, because they switched to rust glycin which runs image format parsers in a bwrap sandbox. Nobody had an idea to check whether the app was already sandboxed and after it was reported, the supposed fixed didn't work at all. It was never properly fixed in glycin.>RHELI don't see an issue with that much. Nobody sane uses that on the desktop and on servers, they already have their monopoly. systemd, polkit, dbus and much more. It's more of a gnome push I think, aligned with Fedora as the gnome OS of choice.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6IcNHrc5xOkNAq8DQ by icedquinn@blob.cat
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       @phnt red hat structurally owns freedesktop and gnome
       
 (DIR) Post #B6IcdtZpe7BNyIRTV2 by icedquinn@blob.cat
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       @phnt i don't hate bwrap. firejail never worked right for me (firefox kept escaping somehow.) i think tying flatpak to bwrap has been a long running mistake though.sandboxing goes along with power box batterns and IPC which is a different war for another day and fighting on multiple fronts isn't great
       
 (DIR) Post #B6IcpKm4rnFlVaclWK by phnt@fluffytail.org
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       @icedquinn The way Flatpak sandboxing works was flawed from the start. Punching holes in the sandbox at will with portals and what not is a mistake that already gave them problems. Sandboxes should just be static.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6IcpKxmAIbw5s66kq by icedquinn@blob.cat
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       @phnt static isn't realistic for desktop use. the power box pattern is fine they just didn't stick the landing.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6IdOoql2SCMvBjZFg by icedquinn@blob.cat
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       @lanodan @phnt @rose if its like lennarts other work, now we just need a hero to come staple an actually good implementation on the other side of the API and world peace is had :blobcatgoogly: