Post B6BlbCXEF8v7NgIMLY by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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 (DIR) Post #B6BlbBRsHZ2k0mmZMW by freakshow@social.xenofem.me
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       I've seen a fair few people on fedi over the last few days defending incest, and I agree that between two consenting adults I couldn't care less what goes on.But that's fully ignoring that in the majority of cases incest is fully coercive and not at all consensual. Finding almost nonexistent situations and arguing that it is okay in them is intentionally misleading at best.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6BlbBl18OM6y9jrCS by Erato_Heti@social.xenofem.me
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       @freakshow its a buried topic at this point and good to be fashionably late to. In any case I think i realize at this point people seem to be comfortable in common rhetoric to see consent as merely ‘seen’ rather than heard, experienced, etc.Like one thing i never mentioned is, if 2 people at a carnival were kissing theres no way for me to even know if they are related by family ties already or not or if the kiss is consensual or really anything other than what i currently see. I am going to for peace of mind and goodwill start from the assumption everything is fine but im not going to precept it that way no matter what. This is not something you just know by looking at someone. we now live in a period where people rationalize what they think only by what they see at a distance and it kind of a bummer. You can shadowbox anything disagreeable by saying ‘well i only know what I see from over here so not my problem’.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6BlbBzYGLyvhEXSr2 by freakshow@social.xenofem.me
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       @Erato_Heti oh yeah I recently found the thread it was all about, wayyyy more hellish than I realized. But yes, at a base level I don't really think any of this is rhetoric that should be used for judgment, it is more up to the individual to police themselves. At the end of the day telling someone that their relationship is wrong is stupid and will have no useful effect. The ideal outcome is that people will use information provided to make good decisions, and beyond that it is out of my hands and out of my scope.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6BlbCCJUuBqKoVekK by Erato_Heti@social.xenofem.me
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       @freakshow yes it was a discussion that got 1 of the locals straight up banned because she wouldnt shut up talking about it and getting on random other users case too much, she was doing it for days (this is exceedingly rare, like to my knowledge, shes the only person I know that has been dealt with this way. it was also because she was being kind of transphobic about it though so dont worry about potential 'wrongspeak' or anything like that.). there was not 1 hellthread. there was a half dozen or so tethered in distance to each other in a sort of ratking of obsessive back and forthing. the primary starting point was also pretty bad but also happened between people outside of xenofemme. im just glad you have the good sense to come in and point out the obvious, that the starting point of 'consensual incest' being kind of misleading...but yeah dw abt it otherwise.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6BlbCNeojGQtzoiQa by freakshow@social.xenofem.me
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       @Erato_Heti to be very honest, seeing the controversy around it also made me want to make it fairly easy to determine my position on the matter 😅 if it's a big problem for anyone it's easier to be straightforward about it I findI do appreciate you replying to fill me in, it did make me feel a bit more sane after seeing the mess some of this stuff has been
       
 (DIR) Post #B6BlbCXEF8v7NgIMLY by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @freakshow @Erato_Heti you  joined  xnfm  at a  very interesting  time , it  seems ..