Post B6AX9fCQU09repa0g4 by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
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(DIR) Post #B691X3KRXsbjSjTkTQ by noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world
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The bill for my emergency room visit 2 weeks ago was about $800. Honestly, by Burgerland standards, that's pretty cheap; I was expecting to pay $2000-3000.
(DIR) Post #B6AWV5QG56G978hWvg by josemanuel@social.sdfeu.org
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad Wanna know the bill for my cancer treatment since I was diagnosed in 2022? $0. Seriously, you need public healthcare. Make it your number one priority in every election. It's not communism, but even if it was, it's worth it. Fuck whoever tells you the contrary. They're your enemy.
(DIR) Post #B6AWV5rCSvoIShJ2vI by noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world
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@josemanuel I'd love to have publicly-funded health care. I'm not a cuckservative, I'm fine voting for things that are good.
(DIR) Post #B6AWV6FezzNNgYka36 by leyonhjelm@fsebugoutzone.org
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad I’m ok with it conceptually but leery of what the result would be. Because our government is really shitty at everything and I’ve known veterans who have considered suicide over dealing with the VA over even basic care. @josemanuel
(DIR) Post #B6AWV6i1IY3r6W1EFk by jeremiah@shitposter.world
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@leyonhjelm @noyoushutthefuckupdad @josemanuel there's also the part about most of the national health systems in the anglosphere being a counterexample.Would you prefer free healthcare with multi-year waits for critical surgeries, or going broke with timely medicine?It makes sense in theory, but worldwide, the practice has been an urgent warning.
(DIR) Post #B6AWV6ygIbO9wBoXDs by noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world
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@jeremiah @leyonhjelm @josemanuel
(DIR) Post #B6AWb6VSxp3UDJ0SKe by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad @leyonhjelm @jeremiah @josemanuel Britbongs gassing up the NHS as if it's their greatest national pride (to the point of shilling it during the Olympics) is fucking bizarre....
(DIR) Post #B6AX5QSzJk8Uo2J1Tk by leyonhjelm@fsebugoutzone.org
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@ChristiJunior If you don't count rape gangs it's the most impressive thing they have left@noyoushutthefuckupdad @jeremiah @josemanuel
(DIR) Post #B6AX9fCQU09repa0g4 by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
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@leyonhjelm @jeremiah @noyoushutthefuckupdad @josemanuel But it's objectively shit tho, isn't French health care for example both cheaper and better?
(DIR) Post #B6AXLwHMo5Hc6WkCX2 by billiam@shitposter.world
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad there was a fedi poast a week or two ago about how you can get your bill paid for or reduced significantly if you follow some process. It was a video of a woman talking about an org which would help you with the process.
(DIR) Post #B6AXLwUU1Jm6lCsfya by noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world
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@billiam my roommate suggested begging the hospital accounting department for mercy. sometimes that works. :shrug_akko:
(DIR) Post #B6AXLwgtHBhRNggaJc by LoliHat@varishangout.net
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad @billiam Haggling with them is actually how medical pricing actually works. The initial bill is high because the doctors/hospitals expect to be haggled down by the insurance companies. Separating medical coverage from personal expense/real-insurance started with FDR.
(DIR) Post #B6AXnVDD2EPoGWwVou by leyonhjelm@fsebugoutzone.org
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@ChristiJunior You forgot having to weigh in the French factor in calling it better, but cheaper, sure.The biggest indicator for how bad a medical system is, is how bad they have to suppress alternatives to that system. In the US, big pharma, big insurance, and their doctorslaves are forced to uphold the regime under threat of stripping their licenses for "malpractice" or whatever. All I know about the other systems is what the sensationalists say, but in some places they prove how great their service is by prohibiting anyone from practicing privately.In a properly functioning universal healthcare system, there would be no profit in going outside the system because there would not be enough demand for it unless that doctor or office operated solely for the super-wealthy or those with unique security or privacy concerns as public figures.@jeremiah @josemanuel @noyoushutthefuckupdad
(DIR) Post #B6Ab3n6oYvXMGePV7Q by jeremiah@shitposter.world
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@ChristiJunior @leyonhjelm @noyoushutthefuckupdad @josemanuel the NHS is the transitional religion of the UK.
(DIR) Post #B6AcFD7EJIaW47c6k4 by noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world
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@jeremiah @ChristiJunior @josemanuel @leyonhjelm transitioning from soccer to Islam
(DIR) Post #B6AeBFYrTWb4OtmG1I by sim@shitposter.world
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@jeremiah @ChristiJunior @josemanuel @leyonhjelm @noyoushutthefuckupdad I can confirm. It's really weird even for me when there are huge issues with it which don't get addressed because it is seen as sacred. It's free at the point of entry. But you end up paying for it in taxes or borrowing from the future. So, I guess they have technically borrowed from the young generations now using it and made their lives worse. The waiting is terrible now.
(DIR) Post #B6AeI4QJHg5zss1tuy by sim@shitposter.world
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad @jeremiah @ChristiJunior @josemanuel @leyonhjelm Ouch. This hit too close to home, man.
(DIR) Post #B6AhnA08tYrQ1VJ3qa by leyonhjelm@fsebugoutzone.org
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@sim I ran a cost comparison between my last employer health plan (including what the employer pays as that’s not really free) and the cost of being a full time student at a nearby University inclusive of optional student health insurance. The university option was only a few more thousand than the health plan, and the health plan pays out very little. @jeremiah @ChristiJunior @josemanuel @noyoushutthefuckupdad
(DIR) Post #B6AhnADy49v4iNm6Oe by sim@shitposter.world
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@leyonhjelm @ChristiJunior @jeremiah @noyoushutthefuckupdad @josemanuel Sounds insane. It all seems like a scam at this point to me. An excuse to charge lots of money to prop up the healthcare system.
(DIR) Post #B6AiOu3wbSHxav58e8 by leyonhjelm@fsebugoutzone.org
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@sim You’re legally obligated (with no meaningful penalty) to have insurance thanks to Obamacare but what’s popping up is a shadow health system where you talk to the right person and don’t have insurance so they work a cash rate that is way cheaper since the cost of dealing with insurance to get paid is massive and cash dodges that@ChristiJunior @jeremiah @josemanuel @noyoushutthefuckupdad
(DIR) Post #B6AiOuJBgmTwMCDJPE by sim@shitposter.world
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@leyonhjelm @ChristiJunior @jeremiah @noyoushutthefuckupdad @josemanuel Sounds like it would be a nightmare dealing with insurance.
(DIR) Post #B6AiXe5nLhoefc7GmO by noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world
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@leyonhjelm @ChristiJunior @jeremiah @sim @josemanuel next time I get majorly sick/injured, I might go to a hospital in another country. I will save money and be seen much faster.
(DIR) Post #B6AiXeICbZjzI5vB7Q by leyonhjelm@fsebugoutzone.org
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad I hope my next serious injury is in the shadow of mt Fuji @ChristiJunior @jeremiah @josemanuel @sim
(DIR) Post #B6AiXeSTzLxpnyjO8u by sim@shitposter.world
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@leyonhjelm @ChristiJunior @jeremiah @noyoushutthefuckupdad @josemanuel Hot Japanese women for care? I could get behind that.
(DIR) Post #B6Aif8orVPZ9zkloRc by leyonhjelm@fsebugoutzone.org
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@sim A lot of doctors abandon independent practice due to the cost of dealing with insurance companies @ChristiJunior @jeremiah @josemanuel @noyoushutthefuckupdad
(DIR) Post #B6Aif8y4x8wGSL5AoK by sim@shitposter.world
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@leyonhjelm @ChristiJunior @jeremiah @noyoushutthefuckupdad @josemanuel Oh yeah... those guys will attempt to pay out the least amount they can since they don't really have the money to burn.
(DIR) Post #B6Aj7SYFjffHIkVLLk by leyonhjelm@fsebugoutzone.org
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@sim And according to the bills I’ve had they don’t even seem to pay the doctor, they just negotiate down the rate to something still higher than cash rate. @ChristiJunior @jeremiah @josemanuel @noyoushutthefuckupdad
(DIR) Post #B6Aj7SmmrdI61pIx0K by sim@shitposter.world
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@leyonhjelm @ChristiJunior @jeremiah @noyoushutthefuckupdad @josemanuel I do wonder who this benefits.
(DIR) Post #B6AjDIKGfPZXKCkHoG by leyonhjelm@fsebugoutzone.org
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@sim I’d just settle for not being in a hospital on the take from western insurance and pharma@ChristiJunior @jeremiah @josemanuel @noyoushutthefuckupdad
(DIR) Post #B6AjDIZVkjlW5TsSZM by sim@shitposter.world
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@leyonhjelm @ChristiJunior @jeremiah @noyoushutthefuckupdad @josemanuel Is it better in Japan then?
(DIR) Post #B6AlEqn8D5mEPq7FUO by leyonhjelm@fsebugoutzone.org
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@sim Can’t be worse @ChristiJunior @jeremiah @josemanuel @noyoushutthefuckupdad
(DIR) Post #B6AlEr1fL3P38uur8y by sim@shitposter.world
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@leyonhjelm @ChristiJunior @jeremiah @noyoushutthefuckupdad @josemanuel I suppose not when you put it that way.