Post B67yGkCUP05SU1KXx2 by patchuun@social.xenofem.me
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 (DIR) Post #B67yGiUUl5IlBHjtjs by fujoshi@social.xenofem.me
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       incest is baased
       
 (DIR) Post #B67yGif87XoBiGiOJc by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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       @fujoshi boring advancement of patriarchal rapefem politics is boring as always
       
 (DIR) Post #B67yGip3WdkSD3MJmq by fujoshi@social.xenofem.me
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       @FiringSquadsEnjoyer not patriarchal if they're sisters and they consent
       
 (DIR) Post #B67yGiyGyN7Yfdfg9Y by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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       @fujoshi this rapefem idea of "imagine if this thing that's almost exclusively men and boys sexually abusing  and coercing women, girls and certain other boys was lesbian" as a way to whitewash the patriarchal abuse is just completely detached from reality. Very gamergate porn addict "how can porn be misogynist, mines only got men it?" coded.Sorry but taking the typical rapey gooner male stepsibling porn where a busty chick forces herself onto her nerdy younger brother or whatever doesnt become feminine just because you're a woman instead of a man getting your dick sucked in this fantasy.
       
 (DIR) Post #B67yGjEvyQRrVJSz7g by fujoshi@social.xenofem.me
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       @FiringSquadsEnjoyer i think the fact you think it is a sex thing says more about you than it does me.
       
 (DIR) Post #B67yGjN5U6yDubHUpc by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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       @fujoshi im unable to understand why else a group of self described "feminists" would betray their gender and side overwhelmingly with right wing religious cis men against cis women, other than as an inherited fetish. Especially since most of the users that have been disagreeing with me on this have been posting stuff like "waow,,, siscon,,, incest ,,, gets so hard i throw up and die" before
       
 (DIR) Post #B67yGjZ8lIbyVyv7cO by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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       @fujoshi the average trans woman on here on whats apparently one of the more anti-male, anti-patriarchy mtf spaces is massively out of line with cis women in terms of approval rating for incest, possibly even more pro incest than the average cis man, what other simple explanation is there for a group of women having more male opinions than the average male, is because of trauma or something resulting in them locking onto a stigmatised sexual fetish as politics?
       
 (DIR) Post #B67yGjlY1AXJ8Sj1xQ by patchuun@social.xenofem.me
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       @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @fujoshi >massively out of line with cis women in terms of approval rating for incest, possibly even more pro incest than the average cis manThe same could also be said of dismantling the family. I don't think appealing to cis sexual mores is a strong argument here. I think you should either give this a bit of a rest or take Erato's advice to heart and change your tack; carceral shame has clearly not been a winning strategy and I don't think calling people rapehons (er, rapefems) or accusing them of malebrain is an improvement
       
 (DIR) Post #B67yGk2D1Drby8WKvY by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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       @patchuun @fujoshi what else should i describe an ideology attempting to push rape idealogue politics under the trojan horse of feminism as other than Rape "Feminism"? Consensually challenged? Post-permission feminism?
       
 (DIR) Post #B67yGkCUP05SU1KXx2 by patchuun@social.xenofem.me
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       @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @fujoshi I don't need to tell you this but putting trans women in prison is putting them in an incomprehensibly evil nightmare rape factory. I do think a feminism which is okay with this "in some cases" is more aptly called "rape feminism" than a feminism which is okay with kissing one's sister "in some cases"
       
 (DIR) Post #B67ySz6MpFAsApIsHg by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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       @patchuun @fujoshi the destruction of the family is also split along gendered lines, but in the opposite direction. Trans women go further than the average cis woman but they still are in alignment, with incest at least anecdotally trans woman are in complete opposition to cis women and are staunchly supportive of the expansion of what is a cis male political project, what can the trans women who support this be called other than misogynistic traitors?
       
 (DIR) Post #B67ySzH0BhgIhoHMrQ by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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       @patchuun @fujoshi and to hone in further, incest is not just a cis male political project but by and large a cis male strictly religious political project as one part of a larger spearhead to turn back the clock and reverse the feminist gains of the last century back to the early 20th century
       
 (DIR) Post #B67ySzRzWqTJFtQ8zQ by patchuun@social.xenofem.me
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       @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @fujoshi well, I wouldn't know anything about that, but I'll take your word for it. I think you've got to recognize that the "incest" these paleoreactionary men want back in the realm of acceptability is of a fundamentally different nature than that which trans women with a thing for kissing their sister want; we're not talking "the same dynamics but transplanted into a lesbian relationship" here. There's more complexity to this subject, more leopards wanting faces to eat and faces in danger of being eaten than you acknowledge. You want to protect young girls from having their faces eaten by family members with power and authority over them and that's correct and just, and an end I wholeheartedly agree with. I also want to protect adult lesbian sisters from having /their/ faces eaten by police. As radicals we have to be clear eyed about who's a friend and who's a foe, and which means will lead to which ends. I don't think you'll find many here who are more inclined to view "the law" and cops as the friend and an autistic trans sister couple who post "consang rights" on fedi as the foe in the hypothetical scenario in which -- God forbid -- they meet. And I'd hope you'd feel the same, having it spelled out like that
       
 (DIR) Post #B67ySzeklOgDtTOKsi by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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       @patchuun @fujoshi > adult lesbian sisters from having /their/ faces eaten by policeIm entirely willing to have them get their faces eaten (forced to date one of the hundred million people in their country who isn't their sister, the horror) in order to protect the 99% of people involved who are just being coerced and/or abused. It's unfortunate, but like with pedophilia unfortunately the small minority of healthy and consensual pedophilic relationships also had to be banned for the overall good.> I don't think you'll find many here who are more inclined to view "the law" and cops as the friendSo should we also campaign for rape to be decriminalised bcs every extension of the state is too authoritarian to be trusted?
       
 (DIR) Post #B67ySzuho5RMgwr4kK by patchuun@social.xenofem.me
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       @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @fujoshi "forced to date one of the hundred million people who they aren't in love with", I just don't think that's how it works, sorry. And like, forced how? Under threat of prison (rape)? I don't know...>So should we also campaign for rape to be decriminalised bcs every extension of the state is too authoritarian to be trusted?Firstly, this is a false equivalence. Even you yourself have conceded that incest between adult siblings can be consensual; rape by definition is not.Secondly, if CNC or rapeplay were criminalized, I would advocate for their decriminalization, because they are consensual and therefore not rape.Thirdly, how effective do you suppose rape being criminalized actually is at preventing it? At first glance you might mistake this for the vulgar "people will still just do drugs illegally anyway" argument, so let me elaborate: do you think the law and justice system tends to prioritize protecting victims of rape from their rapists, or protecting (typically male) rapists from consequences? If the latter, why do you suppose that is? Can we even, in the first place, trust patriarchal institutions to do our dirty work of meaningfully combating patriarchy? Things to consider.Anyway, don't really want to be doing this all day. I'm gonna mute this and go get taco bell. Peace be with you ✌️
       
 (DIR) Post #B67yf0ZBCnt6BvVu7s by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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       @patchuun @fujoshi but i thought rape was illegal, how would trans women going into a mens prison possibly have a knock on effect where they get raped? After all if rapes illegal they should be fine in there.
       
 (DIR) Post #B67yf0jSaa6whoK79M by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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       @patchuun @fujoshi also what about the cases where they're with other transbians in mens prison? You wouldn't want to stop the trans lesbians from being in prison with each ither
       
 (DIR) Post #B67yf0vVrlkhJBxjw8 by nepetalactone@social.xenofem.me
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       @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @fujoshi @patchuun this is probably the single worst post i've seen since joining this instance :xf_creatura: i really cannot fathom not merely that it occurred to you to say this in the first place but then to not think better of it
       
 (DIR) Post #B67yf18H6JxbwlvvpQ by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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       @nepetalactone @fujoshi @patchuun retarded autistic xnfm user tries to understand sarcasm challenge
       
 (DIR) Post #B67yf1HqWjcIQSPZkO by salt@social.xenofem.me
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       @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @nepetalactone @fujoshi @patchuun sis is just mad she got out-woked
       
 (DIR) Post #B67yf1Uxjy6n58Y3Bw by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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       @salt @fujoshi @nepetalactone @patchuun i believe that trans women should have the right to go to mens prison to have kinky t4t sex if they want to and you're a eugenicist fascist if youre trying to ban them from that 🙏
       
 (DIR) Post #B67ygCVsH1DHX6XJFQ by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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       @fujoshi like lets not forget how hard people were going for the ethel cain incest shirt when that dropped
       
 (DIR) Post #B67ygCfRhQry0n0xAO by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @fujoshi the neverending cycle of incestposting and anti-incestposting on social.xenofem.me. cant wait for the day nyx turns off the instance for a day cause it got too annoying again