Post B65qciDnFjS6lbz7Bo by ee@mastodon.nl
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 (DIR) Post #B65qcg5DCfOq8PxEXI by adbenitez@mastodon.de
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       sometimes @wikipedia feels like a mafia, some #DeltaChat users tried to create a Delta Chat entry in Wikipedia (EN) several times over the years and they always rejected it, claiming it is not relevant enough and needing more sources, when sources were provided someone would comment that "likely that are paid articles" and shit like thateven when Delta Chat page exist for other languages alreadythen there are things like Beeper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beeper_(software) with a SINGLE citation to a paid-walled articlewhat gives???please if some of you have experience contributing to Wikipedia (and I guess some secret connections or being known contributor is needed as well) consider creating a Delta Chat entry it is really unfair that at this time and age any random messenger is in Wikipedia but Delta Chat#Wikipedia
       
 (DIR) Post #B65qcgg4zatFylCg08 by ee@mastodon.nl
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       @adbenitez Wikipedia is pretty great. If a topic holds encyclopaedic significance, a page on it won’t be removed. This can be easily backed up by a few references such as news articles. Beeper was all over the news, so the issue there is not lack of significance, but lack of citations.You most certainly do not need to have special connections in order to contribute.
       
 (DIR) Post #B65qchBd6I7xYbxsB6 by feld@friedcheese.us
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       @ee @adbenitez we had the same problem with Pleroma actually...
       
 (DIR) Post #B65qchhBCzMf8Sj4M4 by mkljczk@fediverse.pl
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       @feld @adbenitez @ee pre-Radvinsky death?
       
 (DIR) Post #B65qchxqD2gxy8WNKC by feld@friedcheese.us
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       @mkljczk @adbenitez @ee I don't remember the timeline just that even with a citation it was being rejectedDebian and the Linux kernel (social.kernel.org) run Pleroma (actually it's Akkoma now?), you'd think that would be notable enough
       
 (DIR) Post #B65qciDnFjS6lbz7Bo by ee@mastodon.nl
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       @feld it is noticeable enough, which is why Pleroma has a Wikipedia page.
       
 (DIR) Post #B65qciWE9CCJgmbpvE by feld@friedcheese.us
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       @ee here's the thing: everything on Wikipedia is just the opinion/view of whoever the editor is that's authorized to make those decisions. In many ways it's even more dangerous than school textbooks because of its universal reach.Robert Maxwell (Ghislane's father) was evil for tampering with American history textbooks, but Wikipedia is in many ways worse
       
 (DIR) Post #B65qcitGlWd4qFOEq0 by ee@mastodon.nl
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       @feld oh come on. @wikipedia has great editorial standards and hierarchies. It is one of the best of the internet’s accomplishments.
       
 (DIR) Post #B65qcj5g1OYPSjC9B2 by feld@friedcheese.us
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       @ee @wikipedia a third of the English wikipedia was written by one dude: Steven Pruitt
       
 (DIR) Post #B65qcjKZ82SoCuA2Ns by georgia@netzsphaere.xyz
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       @feld @ee @wikipedia not written, he has edited a third of wikipedia pages. it's mostly gnomework although he has created many articles too.
       
 (DIR) Post #B65uF7z0Dj4nX04lsm by feld@friedcheese.us
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       @georgia @ee @wikipedia still too much influence from one person
       
 (DIR) Post #B65uF8S4TeKQz9fzBw by georgia@netzsphaere.xyz
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       @feld @ee @wikipedia thats fair but spergs gonna sperg