Post B65C0BhthDWskq8nhI by meeper@udongein.xyz
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 (DIR) Post #B64y7J7F9MJSOwUsOe by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       the  humble  .local/src :
       
 (DIR) Post #B64zIYIb8iZud9jZ2m by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @fiore do yoou keep vc clones there?
       
 (DIR) Post #B654IgfSWZo2MAJKC0 by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @meeper i keep  projects there  too
       
 (DIR) Post #B655K36Ci79GAb29Ds by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @fiore @meeper honestly i like that. i use Code currently (capital s was taken for "Shared" which is sshfs)
       
 (DIR) Post #B655K3HC3FwGigAvLs by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @coolbean @fiore all of my directories are in lower case.for source code I use ~/repos (used to be  src idk why I changed it)
       
 (DIR) Post #B655jAu0pp8HbxJPWa by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @meeper @fiore i use capitals to match xdg desktop directories and also so i can enter the initial and immediately auto complete. its very convenient
       
 (DIR) Post #B655jB3aGEmy5dn3RY by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @coolbean @fiore i am a capital letter denier.use case for learning and simultaneously encoding two separate variants of your script
       
 (DIR) Post #B655jmlq2fAn3bmQ3k by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @meeper @fiore but i respect the fuck out of using .local for this seeing as openbsd uses /usr/src and /usr/ports for stuff as well (something i cant do with git because it demands directory ownership instead of just group rwx access. fuck you git)
       
 (DIR) Post #B655pUcASTmIU7yh8K by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @meeper @fiore i advocate for syllabaries :)
       
 (DIR) Post #B655rm1YhWrt3hwSmm by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @coolbean @fiore may I interest you in a brahmic abugida :)))jk
       
 (DIR) Post #B655yA7xzxI3YFzAki by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @meeper @fiore YOU MAY
       
 (DIR) Post #B655yAIFNjVu48nNmC by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @coolbean @fiore soon^tm soon^tm devanagari tutorial I will make soon^tm
       
 (DIR) Post #B6563XdM1vGBu2ERPM by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @coolbean @fiore I should just make it text based I've been procrastinating making a video presentation too long
       
 (DIR) Post #B657XeOxX27bXCQ5M8 by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @coolbean @meeper how do u  mount  your sshfs  btw ? is  it just  an fstab  entry or  do u  mount it  manually  each time
       
 (DIR) Post #B657abSUvighHATzmK by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @coolbean @meeper i hate  Documents and  Downloads  having  /^Do/
       
 (DIR) Post #B657jyx4x5MykGG7bk by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @fiore @meeper as do i i just dont have Documents thats what the home directory is already for
       
 (DIR) Post #B657lB9N5JAiroZz2e by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @coolbean @meeper also  theres  Desktop  but  who even  uses that  anyways
       
 (DIR) Post #B657mgKadkP9rXXkwK by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @fiore @coolbean this is why my downloads folder is remaed load
       
 (DIR) Post #B657p3yjgqrXmcSOQK by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @fiore @coolbean fstab is rootuser cringe.in a good world we'd namespacesmaxx
       
 (DIR) Post #B657sPapmhKjgisF2u by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @fiore @meeper even if i have a desktop, i set it to my home directory. it just makes more sense
       
 (DIR) Post #B657shbqneqFZ5UJ84 by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @coolbean @meeper neat
       
 (DIR) Post #B657shytPzH0iYGi2q by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @fiore @coolbean also this aggravates me to no end that android doesn't allow you to change these.google should combust
       
 (DIR) Post #B657twyX9hjpVjh0fw by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @meeper @coolbean agreed  thats why im  asking  :P
       
 (DIR) Post #B657uUN8zE235cSd7I by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @coolbean @fiore same
       
 (DIR) Post #B6581DuYaRX840Ihai by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @fiore @coolbean idk  do the plan9 brainworm thing and put it in your shell profile (affaik even PATH doesn't exist and is set by bind and union mounts to a standard binary dir)
       
 (DIR) Post #B658LnT26Fh489EjqK by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @fiore @meeper at the moment: i dont. but generally due to fuckiness with openbsd i have to mount it from /etc/rc.local. cant remember what was up but solene made a guide about it on dataswamp
       
 (DIR) Post #B658LnhZEDJsrE2LUu by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @coolbean @meeper so you  let root  mount it ,  right ?
       
 (DIR) Post #B658Pi1oGRIuQ5MveC by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @meeper @coolbean for  some reason when i  mount a  sshfs  it  unmounts itself  after a  while .
       
 (DIR) Post #B658QKJVv42p9zwbWC by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @fiore @meeper root mounts it but uid and gid are set to 1000 (meeeeee)
       
 (DIR) Post #B658RfVmakAxC5K4fI by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @fiore @meeper so pretty much the same as youd do from fstab. honestly fstab might work now i dont know
       
 (DIR) Post #B658T7YjnS12TJOhlY by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @coolbean @meeper fstab  can have  fuse entries on  linux , yes
       
 (DIR) Post #B658Zg3GT3flBYnoiO by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @coolbean @meeper weeehh  idont  wanna have  root  do things for me  i wanna  do them myself
       
 (DIR) Post #B658ZuQp0GpnmfvpNQ by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @fiore @meeper connection interrupted maybe?
       
 (DIR) Post #B658eTEXYKAEsXMW1Y by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @coolbean @meeper i find  that very weird  since it  happens even  when im  just idle for  a bit .  also its incredibly slow ,  but  thats probably  just a  sshfs  thing
       
 (DIR) Post #B658pQGSvo9cr8U8nI by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @fiore @meeper use your shellrc or xdg_autostart
       
 (DIR) Post #B658pQQkJaNTN1ILom by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @coolbean @meeper maybe  dinit  should  do it …..  after=login.target …  hmmm ..
       
 (DIR) Post #B658piupaT8chXVdD6 by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @fiore @meeper yup
       
 (DIR) Post #B658pnnvPZaJrZJgdk by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @fiore @meeper i probably ought to use nfs but nfs fucking sucks
       
 (DIR) Post #B658qil3eu9yVBPhaK by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @coolbean @meeper idont  even know  how to  set nfs  up
       
 (DIR) Post #B658xVtRt61Sd7Zqc4 by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @fiore @meeper sure yea write a service file thats ideal tbh
       
 (DIR) Post #B6593F55JBGUE0keXI by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @fiore @meeper its hell. like fstab shenanigans and if you want any sort of authentication AT ALL you have to set up kerberos as well because god forbid you use something simple and ugh
       
 (DIR) Post #B6593FJyPpAsyBiXk8 by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @coolbean @meeper also  ,  thats not fuse  so id  have to use  namespacing  for that but  like .  i dont  think i can  have that  Just  Work unless i have  my whole  session under a  mount  namespace ,  and  that would  suck for  many reasons
       
 (DIR) Post #B65958Oz6zhc5bxhIW by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @coolbean @meeper linux  sucks
       
 (DIR) Post #B6596xXkSGr4zVvn96 by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @fiore @meeper like after that the only options are whitelisting clients and basic unix user permissions meaning any user named bean can access my files on there which is the big boon and the big downside
       
 (DIR) Post #B6597ELxxKX17tY7do by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @fiore @meeper im on openbsdthis sucks tooplan9 maybe?
       
 (DIR) Post #B65988XF4apFN5FuzY by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @coolbean @meeper nevergonnahappenware
       
 (DIR) Post #B659CC2ny6DFPexAXI by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @fiore @meeper it already happened its right thereit even has gefs now!
       
 (DIR) Post #B659MmGe974IeYTUBc by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @coolbean @fiore honestly porting inferno to amd64+wayland would be more worthwhilein an ideal world we'd start using linux solely for kvm or smth as a hardware interface because everything is stupid and sucks
       
 (DIR) Post #B65BA5BGiQDhSI28P2 by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @coolbean @meeper yknow .  thw Thing  with plan 9  is  that  its  like  kinda .  perfect .  as in ,  theres  no linux-specific  things  id want  ported  over ,  because it  already has  prettier  ways  of  doing those things  (unshare(), wayland, bunch of  other shit)the problem is  that its  nevergonnahappenware  because  loonics  literally  Just  Works
       
 (DIR) Post #B65BF65KmTGPhweHpY by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @meeper @coolbean linux becoming  solely a  hardware compatibility interface  is something i didnt  know i  wanted
       
 (DIR) Post #B65BTmR67LNX6xpW5o by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @fiore @meeper they never shouldve castrated multics
       
 (DIR) Post #B65BTmghBLr5tL7yPA by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @coolbean @meeper multics never deserved  to exist , the  problem is  that unix  breached  containment and  spread like  cancer but  it was  too soon  they shouldve waited ..  why didnt  they  just  wait ..
       
 (DIR) Post #B65BUgWLb0qt3SiV3A by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @fiore @meeper implement drm in 9front and ur like 99% of the way there lmao
       
 (DIR) Post #B65BZT29AUAOfns4i8 by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @fiore @coolbean then billian gates decided the world still needed to be punished and launched his crusade to force his  shitty (soon to be unimaginably shihttier ) os into everything
       
 (DIR) Post #B65BbKgt9q5TNSojgG by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @coolbean @fiore something something the last one percnt is the most testicular torsion
       
 (DIR) Post #B65BkSBwdfdtFOh11s by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @meeper @coolbean eh  idc about that  , windows  was  always  doomed  from  the start nobody considers it a  worthwhile effort , it  was never gonna make it ,  it was always  gonna die  eventually .  it  just wouldve been  way sooner if  the thing  that breached containment was  plan 9 instead of  unix
       
 (DIR) Post #B65BlTC8OYEAeEGYZU by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @meeper @fiore ...yea
       
 (DIR) Post #B65BlcPa7vKdEXcvHU by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @coolbean @fiore if linux actually a fixed stable abi and kernel devs didn't have their brainwormed gplbrain mentality, the linux abi could have been a standard driver abi and then some idiot could port it to 9front or something
       
 (DIR) Post #B65BpwZR7OSIuiIZqi by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @meeper @coolbean we literally  cant have  nice  thingswait  what does  licensing  have to do w   api stability
       
 (DIR) Post #B65BxsGJ1NUTrr8FKy by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @meeper @fiore the humble freebsd rump drivers:
       
 (DIR) Post #B65BxsPsRn9ALXbtFw by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @meeper @fiore like get drm and freebsd drivers going and you're doing pretty well imo
       
 (DIR) Post #B65C0BhthDWskq8nhI by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @coolbean @fiore also like dynamic linking but 9fronters will fight tooth and nail to stop yyou and will tear your intestines out if you let your gaurd for even a moment
       
 (DIR) Post #B65C5jXrJXtl9K5doG by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @meeper @coolbean idont  think 9fronters  feel particularly strongly about dynamic linking ?
       
 (DIR) Post #B65C6KetKMVaFqfHPM by HatkeshiatorTND@annihilation.social
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       @meeper @coolbean @fiore gplbrain?
       
 (DIR) Post #B65C6KtmR0Pz01dAcC by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @HatkeshiatorTND like how nvidia drivers used to need a s shim (back before nvidia open, which still doesn't have working power manageent in my former laptop)
       
 (DIR) Post #B65C9LqjM85goidsK8 by Zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith
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       @meeper @fiore @coolbean I saw a case for commas recently about the difference between helping your uncle jack off a horse and helping your uncle, Jack, off a horse.The capital letter also suitably disambiguates it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B65CD1vvLVicCqpF4a by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @fiore @coolbean they are (appear to be) an offshoot of cat-v ( the good folk who suckless larps as)and afaik they did have an essay against dynamic linking and so did rob pike or someone
       
 (DIR) Post #B65CJBxuxYI73ehEDQ by HatkeshiatorTND@annihilation.social
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       @meeper @coolbean @fiore do you really need a tutorial?
       
 (DIR) Post #B65CJCRLC9pKWuSj4q by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @HatkeshiatorTND would give some folk an excuse to learn it ig, also would like to focus on how it derives from sanskrit phonetic science and sandhi and all which idk most won't explain to my standards
       
 (DIR) Post #B65CJpOWMZkDLSRWb2 by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @meeper @coolbean yea iknow all that  but  like .  ive seen  plenty of  9front  people making fun  of the  suckless  thing of  static linking everything
       
 (DIR) Post #B65CMIvnW8GxWyBlCq by coolbean@brain.worm.pink
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       @meeper @fiore if we can install regular object files the way we do shared objects for compiling purposes id be ok with static linkingthe problem is we dont do that
       
 (DIR) Post #B65H93MsZLhlGiMAhU by NeverBeAYsMan@sacred.harpy.faith
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       @Zergling_man @meeper @coolbean @fiore and the irony of modern grammar checkers saying commas break flow and shouldn't be used like that. Then provides this as a substitute: Helping your uncle's horse jack off.
       
 (DIR) Post #B65HBxGjhZkBDmro7E by Zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith
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       @NeverBeAYsMan @meeper @fiore @coolbean That sentence has a different meaning!
       
 (DIR) Post #B65HEPvQ86bSfz4RdI by NeverBeAYsMan@sacred.harpy.faith
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       @Zergling_man @coolbean @fiore @meeper As an AI I do not understand truth. But, I will aggressively tell you you're wrong.
       
 (DIR) Post #B65h8YwyGA8BjmfHrE by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @coolbean @fiore .local kinda bad since it's dotfiled, so you shouldn't use it for stuff that you want to access imo
       
 (DIR) Post #B65lT0dHRjxDCXSZvs by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @meeper @coolbean yea thats  fair , imo ot  should be  ~/Projects  for stuff youre working on  and  ~/.local/src for  git clones  you want to build in  order to install locally
       
 (DIR) Post #B65lTzvpXO2NJjbkoa by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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       @meeper @coolbean but the  line is  blurry
       
 (DIR) Post #B65lcLC0NFATZc9TIu by meeper@udongein.xyz
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       @fiore @coolbean idk tbh, maybe if someone makes a less retarted aur thing which actually allows you to keep separate repos and is distropackage manager agnosticish (ofc non chuadarchlinuxers would have a better mileage)I guess you can have you own build and package script infra then it's fine.
       
 (DIR) Post #B65n4BVQ5CIJao4csK by nu@she-a.eu
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       @fiore @coolbean @meeper I mean since it will be XDG it wont matter that much what name it has since you can always just change it (i for one use t for projects, d for desktop etc for no real reason except that ive been doing it for 4 years and honestly it being part of your regular flow)