Post B61WlztS8vN8SxmTxI by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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(DIR) Post #B60r5X1YzWq2eACscq by june@ublog.kimapr.net
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one thing i really like about systemd is the unit sandboxing capabilities and how convenient it ishttps://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Systemd/Sandboxingheres an example from my tuwunel matrix systemd unit[Unit]Description=Tuwunel Matrix homeserver#Requires=tuwunel.socketWants=network-online.targetAfter=network-online.targetDocumentation=https://tuwunel.chat/[Service]User=tuwunelGroup=tuwunelType=notifyReloadSignal=SIGUSR1WatchdogSec=30TTYPath=/dev/tty25DeviceAllow=char-ttyStandardInput=tty-forceStandardOutput=ttyStandardError=journal+consoleTTYReset=yes# uncomment to allow buffer to be cleared every restartTTYVTDisallocate=noTTYColumns=120TTYRows=40Environment="TUWUNEL_CONFIG=/etc/tuwunel/tuwunel.toml"ExecStart=/usr/sbin/tuwunelReadWritePaths=/var/lib/tuwunel /etc/tuwunelAmbientCapabilities=CapabilityBoundingSet=ManagedOOMPreference=avoidMemoryHigh=3GMemoryMax=4GDevicePolicy=closedLockPersonality=yesMemoryDenyWriteExecute=yesNoNewPrivileges=yes#ProcSubset=pidProtectClock=yesProtectControlGroups=yesProtectHome=yesProtectHostname=yesProtectKernelLogs=yesProtectKernelModules=yesProtectKernelTunables=yesProtectProc=invisibleProtectSystem=strictPrivateDevices=yesPrivateMounts=yesPrivateTmp=yesPrivateUsers=yesPrivateIPC=yesRemoveIPC=yesRestrictAddressFamilies=AF_INET AF_INET6 AF_UNIXRestrictNamespaces=yesRestrictRealtime=yesRestrictSUIDSGID=yesSystemCallArchitectures=nativeSystemCallFilter=@system-service @resourcesSystemCallFilter=~@clock @debug @module @mount @reboot @swap @cpu-emulation @obsolete @timer @chown @setuid @privileged @keyring @ipcSystemCallErrorNumber=EPERM#StateDirectory=tuwunelRuntimeDirectory=tuwunelRuntimeDirectoryMode=0750Restart=on-failureRestartSec=5TimeoutStopSec=2mTimeoutStartSec=2mStartLimitInterval=1mStartLimitBurst=5[Install]WantedBy=multi-user.targetAlias=matrix-tuwunel.servicehow can i replicate that kind of stuff with openrc?
(DIR) Post #B60r5XObbrGnnczHXc by navi@social.vlhl.dev
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@june service namespacing (or sandboxing i guess) is planned for openrci've learnt a lot about it lately so eventually i'll take a stab at that
(DIR) Post #B60r5Xbip5lISJ7kzA by stilic@social.oss.zone
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@navi @june what do you think about the approach described in the last paragraph of this? https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/guides/linux-hardening.html#systemd-service-sandboxingi don't necessarily think it's needed to reimplement that on your own but that's how i see things on my own so i dunno tbh
(DIR) Post #B60r5Xnm6HP33glNlw by june@ublog.kimapr.net
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@stilic @navi this doesnt really explain or help anything other than making a blind assumption that bubblewrap can do everything there, and there still isnt an example.
(DIR) Post #B60r5Y0XKpbxhGjZfE by stilic@social.oss.zone
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@june @navi Well this is coming from a security researcher who knows a lot about Linux security issues so I think they know what they're doing unless someone proves me wrong or smthBubblewrap is pretty much able to do around 90% of the stuff systemd already does in terms of sandboxing without having to get its features reimplemented in the init system itselfThere are use cases for sandboxing a whole bootstrap process (https://github.com/fosslinux/live-bootstrap) or just building a few packages in an isolated environment (as done by a few package build systems), so I'm pretty sure that is sufficient on its own along with seccompBubblewrap has a large amount of CLI options if you have specific requirements in mind, it's very polyvalentEven ChromeOS has a tool for similar purposes (https://google.github.io/minijail/)
(DIR) Post #B60r5YMW17BynR17vE by stilic@social.oss.zone
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@june y'know whatI'm not going to argue with someone who is openly supporting incestThat's it, you lost all your credibility
(DIR) Post #B60r5YbP7l6NXbz184 by june@ublog.kimapr.net
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@stilic i dont need to be mansplained either so yeah please go away consang isnt bad either btw <3
(DIR) Post #B60r5YlKWr2e2OcwbI by stilic@social.oss.zone
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@june I'm sorry but if it's mentioned in https://lgbtqia.wiki/wiki/Harmful_Terminology#Paraphilic_Terminology you don't really have a sayIt's just Bad, period.
(DIR) Post #B60r5YvbudGUYHR9cm by june@ublog.kimapr.net
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@stilic please go away cis man. your queerphobia is Really Showing. a random wiki is not the all mighty source of truth for the entirety of queer folks.so please block me if i seriously upset you that much over our consenting, loving relationship with my sister instead of making yourself look like a fool more and trying to derail my thread here
(DIR) Post #B60r5Z7JD8cf8YuUrI by stilic@social.oss.zone
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@june What the fuck are you on? WHAT YOU'RE PROMOTING IS LITERALLY ILLEGAL.I'm not even queerphobic, you passing literal incest at it was fine and making shit up about me and this wiki I used is just... weird and fucked upFor fuck sakes, get out of fedi if you can't understand where YOU are going
(DIR) Post #B60r5ZMYISodtq2fcO by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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guys i think we should all stop doing drugs ive looked into it more and i think theyre like illegal ????? which literally means theyre bad :/RE: https://social.oss.zone/objects/296c70bd-0dce-4215-ad53-3ad0e4f9540d
(DIR) Post #B60r8MffwLuFPFJswa by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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also im pretty sure some of yall arent even rlly supposed to be transgender… can you stop please…
(DIR) Post #B60rGGIZW8ZhxUHLxg by winter@translunar.academy
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@fiore awww really ? I'll miss drugs
(DIR) Post #B60rGGRmxrwoQ4aiKO by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@winter sure seems like it :/
(DIR) Post #B60rGQmMYELYSmIHmi by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
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@fiore holy fugg
(DIR) Post #B60rGRuuJwm9zZIck4 by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
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@fiore “what even is this thread”click gort“sytemd…”
(DIR) Post #B60rLSQ9sFyD0GIxUW by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@lizzie its just the fediest of all fedi threads
(DIR) Post #B60rS2OV2V4OJGfOYC by lena@shrimptest.bedwetting.club
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@fiore IM SORRY
(DIR) Post #B60rS2gvvxobERI7Hc by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@lena ithink its ok in california dw
(DIR) Post #B60rUrhhF5PK1TzhGi by ozzelot@mstdn.social
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@fioreshould i also delete all these pirated movies?!
(DIR) Post #B60rUrqugomQU4J3dQ by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@ozzelot im pretty sure , yes .. yknow , you can watch them anyways if u give money to amazon!
(DIR) Post #B60rkSkzlHcXHjyUAC by lena@shrimptest.bedwetting.club
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@fiore stfu
(DIR) Post #B60rlHbsgvdL0F6QXQ by Primavera@void.lgbt
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@fiore @winter wow he didn't have anything else to argue with so he threw the old ad-hominem at her love to see some respect for the classics
(DIR) Post #B60rlm4zPGk7VCx64e by ozzelot@mstdn.social
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@fioreOh heck yes watch movies and save the rainforest!
(DIR) Post #B60rmMPSKeVMB6nwyO by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@ozzelot indeed !!
(DIR) Post #B60xE56ImNlqNHsogC by shani@cuties.social
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@fiore luckily it is not illegal to drink 6 espressos a day!
(DIR) Post #B60xEYiwdmueFXBaRE by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@shani luckily !!!
(DIR) Post #B61OZsiuAzP57VYjIm by Clover@akko.wtf
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@june no idea where that guy gets his confidence to be anti-incest when he's literally french? lol
(DIR) Post #B61Wlzcn8s2pdHzAzA by wyatt@soc.megatokyo.moe
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@stilic @june you know what else is illegal?women driving in saudi arabialegality is not a metric of morality or ethics or righteousnessI'm not even sure if it's illegal where she is or not.
(DIR) Post #B61WlztS8vN8SxmTxI by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@wyatt @stilic @june step off the femboy, he's right incest is bad regardless of legality/illegality in the same way as drunk driving is bad regardless of legality
(DIR) Post #B61Wm04RU4A912vG5I by chjara@akko.tuxcrafting.xyz
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@FiringSquadsEnjoyer @wyatt @stilic @june Who does it hurt that two adult siblings are fucking?
(DIR) Post #B61Wm0LSSnm1rosqbg by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@chjara @wyatt @stilic @june it's a social safety law, maybe the two adult siblings fucking have a perfectly healthy functioning relationship with no intention of having kids (I don't know, i don't know either of them), in the same way that there are some relationships between adults and children that may be healthy or someone might be really good at drunk driving and never get into accidents, but the vast vast majority aren't and these laws forbid these things for a reason. For God's sake, everybody on here starts acting like some rothbard libertarian or a damn anarchist the second any idea of law for the overall health of society rather than individual niche cases gets brought up on here.
(DIR) Post #B61WokUBsrlnY8HDou by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@chjara @june @stilic @wyatt everybody on here has a completely atomised view of society in which only they and their experiences exist, everybody's doing the thatcherite "there is no society" thing constantly but in the real world the vast majority of 'actually existing incest' is incredibly bad for those involved and the overall social fabric.
(DIR) Post #B61XAyH3Ii2mgQjBei by chjara@akko.tuxcrafting.xyz
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@FiringSquadsEnjoyer @wyatt @stilic @june Social safety *in what way*. There is a very obvious and extreme power dynamic between an adult and a child, which makes it effectively impossible for a sexual relation to not be rape. Drunk driving is bad because you're operating a two ton steel box while your brain is half shut off. Sure. But two adult siblings? Power relations are not that much different from say two childhood friends, between which relationships are certainly accepted. Also, sexual relationships (not marriage) between adult siblings are actually legal in most countries.
(DIR) Post #B61XAyT6ZtgXHoMoRU by chjara@akko.tuxcrafting.xyz
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@FiringSquadsEnjoyer @june @stilic @wyatt Alternatively, if you're going by genetic closeness: if everyone was in homosexual relationships, society would collapse. Non-argument. It takes multiple generations for deleterious effects to arise, and most people have a biological aversion towards dating their siblings (hence the taboo!), but for those who don't, whatever.
(DIR) Post #B61XAyfVplbruIAimW by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@chjara @wyatt @stilic @june Homosexual relationships dont inherently harm anyone, they're functionally just the same as celibacy at the level of government, having a kid in an incestuous relationship is open and shut child abuse, in a similar way that excessive smoking and drinking while pregnant is child abuse but worse ofc.BBC article on the effects of first cousin marriage, not sibling marriage in the UK: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c241pn09qqjoChannel 4 documentary about the kids of cousin marriage in the UK from about 10 years ago: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gDGUZxUTwBI
(DIR) Post #B61Xl04C75A8fTtSls by georgia@netzsphaere.xyz
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@FiringSquadsEnjoyer @chjara @wyatt @stilic @june also if you read a little bit about the similar issue of genetic sexual attraction (attraction to kin that didnt grow up together, without the westermarck effect or a similar effect for parents and children) people who actually have sex with their family member typically find it impossible to have a healthy relationship after
(DIR) Post #B61aKVqKA4X5GRT2EC by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
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@FiringSquadsEnjoyer @chjara @wyatt @stilic @june people with genetic defects are more likely to pass those on than incest causing them yet they're allowed to have children
(DIR) Post #B61bPohPa7vX9EOLC4 by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@snacks @chjara @wyatt @stilic @june there is no realistic and humane way to prevent people with genetic disorders risk passing those on to their kids, i should know i have a fairly minor one, on the other hand its extremely easy to minimise the risk, for instance encouraging them to have kids with one of the tens of millions of people in this country they're not directly related to rather than the dozen or so they are, in the same way that they can be encouraged not to drink a glass of wine and smoke a pack a day of cigarettes.
(DIR) Post #B61bPouAog8RmoMX5M by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
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@FiringSquadsEnjoyer @chjara @wyatt @stilic @june you could just as easily make it illegal for people who express a genetic defect to have kids overall. I don't see how that'd be hard
(DIR) Post #B61bRzRSbyNl2qy0Zc by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@snacks @chjara @june @stilic @wyatt genuinely are you being intellectually dishonest about this on purpose or are you just retarded?
(DIR) Post #B61bRzfHmZRPjjR37g by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
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@FiringSquadsEnjoyer @chjara @wyatt @stilic @june question goes back to you
(DIR) Post #B61bVFNBpuzVK6WRxg by chjara@akko.tuxcrafting.xyz
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@snacks @wyatt @stilic @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @june Wide spectrum genetic sequencing before you're allowed a shagging loicence.
(DIR) Post #B61bbsBMSQjpQR9J5M by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@snacks @chjara @wyatt @stilic @june and is asking people not to smoke during pregnancy also a slippery sløpe to eugenics just like asking people not to fuck their cousin?
(DIR) Post #B61bbsYl3RSAb05zYO by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
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@FiringSquadsEnjoyer @chjara @wyatt @stilic @june is asking people with cystic fibrosis not to fuck that hard?
(DIR) Post #B61becBaO7vegMYt2O by chjara@akko.tuxcrafting.xyz
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@FiringSquadsEnjoyer @snacks @wyatt @stilic @june Genetic depression from one generation of closely related people having a relation is effectively 0. It only becomes a problem over multiple generations.
(DIR) Post #B61c3E0LQlewvP2SNU by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@chjara @snacks @wyatt @stilic @june if youd read the article id linked you'd see that *first cousin marriage* (not sibling tbc) controlling for location, ethnicity and income *doubles* the rate of genetic disorders from 3% to 6% as well as harms the kid in a host of other ways too
(DIR) Post #B61c3EPrts4mCYyqA4 by chjara@akko.tuxcrafting.xyz
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@FiringSquadsEnjoyer @snacks @wyatt @stilic @june The article later mentions it could also just be because it's a small endogamous community. (And I do question the emphasis on a specific Pakistani minority community by the BBC yknow.) Eg Ashkenazi Jews also have that one degenerative disorder they have a sky high rate of due to the same thing.
(DIR) Post #B61cce5aROg3xaNeQi by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@snacks @chjara @wyatt @stilic @june there is nothing to do within a moral liberal society to reduce the likelihood of a person with cystic fibrosis from passing on the condition to their kids, and they have the right to kids, banning someone from having sex with a dozen or so people out of tens of millions in the country is not the same as chemically castrating a person with a genetic condition. Is telling people not to drink, smoke and take drugs a slippery soykafe to reduce the likelihood of birth defects eugenics too or is it just incest that we need to protect?
(DIR) Post #B61cceHHju2EXrqzfE by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
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@FiringSquadsEnjoyer @chjara @wyatt @stilic @june where do you go to jail for drinking during pregnancy?
(DIR) Post #B61d4EYmx05WtLC7M0 by dps910@freedombits.org
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@snacks @chjara @wyatt @stilic @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @june just read this entire thread anyways, drinking and smoking during pregnancy is ofc not illegal, but, it is irresponsible and i would be morally against it, if i was a woman.incest is mentally ill tho, but, so long as it's not reality then i dont really care at all for whether people are into it i always just assume when people are talking abt "incest", they are referring to their friends as siblings, which, obviously doens't cause inbreeding or anything harmful like that.
(DIR) Post #B61d4ElCCs0rVp01h2 by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
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@dps910 @chjara @wyatt @stilic @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @june nono, this thread was started by a person in a relationship with their sister. The eugenics argument against incest just doesn't hold up in our society
(DIR) Post #B61ezdQFHmzISd8KKe by wyatt@soc.megatokyo.moe
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@snacks @chjara @stilic @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @june ignoring the whole "eugenics" component of this it annoys me how we're talking about this like the act of *dating* is intended for sexual reproduction when it very clearly isn't the case here
(DIR) Post #B61fXOaCxra4HctKwS by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@wyatt @chjara @snacks @stilic @june as stated before, this part of the thread isnt me responding to people claiming that incestuous dating itself is fine, but responding to people making the ridiculous claim that having children from incest is morally fine.
(DIR) Post #B61fXOmGF3Dot0WxjE by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@wyatt @chjara @june @snacks @stilic Also this is *eugenics* in the same sense that saying smoking while pregnant is bad for the fetus is eugenics.
(DIR) Post #B61fZlF1gyyx8V6zpo by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
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@FiringSquadsEnjoyer @chjara @wyatt @stilic @june >Eugenics is a largely discredited set of beliefs and practices that aim to improve the genetic quality of a human population.
(DIR) Post #B61fiA6B9oTSXvymsS by chjara@akko.tuxcrafting.xyz
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@FiringSquadsEnjoyer @snacks @wyatt @stilic @june Smoking or drinking in pregnancy directly causes measurable harm to the baby. Incest *amplifies* existing genetic defects, but if the rate is already close to 0 anyway, it's still close to 0 after *one* instance of it.
(DIR) Post #B61fsdwl2P9m0wZRR2 by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@chjara @june @stilic @wyatt everyone on this site is dogpiling a 19 year old for saying 'incest is bad and harmful' because he did an appeal to authority and a "mansplaining". Sorry MFs, the femboy's right — Ayn-Randians DNI!
(DIR) Post #B61fseE7zp3EsohJVg by wyatt@soc.megatokyo.moe
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@FiringSquadsEnjoyer @chjara @stilic @june I hate ayn rand and am glad she's dead, but you need to get off your high horse.if you were more familiar with these two you hopefully wouldn't be so fast to let society brutalize them
(DIR) Post #B61fseQtENG9WOfVOy by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@wyatt @chjara @stilic @june I don't know these two or particularly care to, you are also shouting right past me, i have never tried to brutalise them / let society brutalise them. On the contrary, the call to legalise incest is a call for the legalisation of the widespread brutalisation of women and children not yet in the womb by patriarchal forces in their own homes.
(DIR) Post #B61fsedIUFBU8sTPk0 by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@wyatt @chjara @june @stilic but tbc on the ayn rand thing, hate her all you like but you pushing the idea that policy for the good of society as a whole shouldn't exist in case it imposes the will of the individual in certain niche cases is fundamentally a randian concept
(DIR) Post #B61fsjSUXqVn6oSM5o by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
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@snacks @chjara @wyatt @stilic @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @june HOW DO YOU GET TO THIS FROM A SYSTEMD SERVICE OP.
(DIR) Post #B61fyqTJNnMYb6krUO by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@snacks @chjara @wyatt @stilic @june is the idea that smoking is bad for fetuses discredited now?
(DIR) Post #B61fyqhUX4hnJ5OBai by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
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@FiringSquadsEnjoyer @chjara @wyatt @stilic @june telling people who to fuck to improve genetics is just the most standard eugenics ever while smoking during pregnancy doesn't change anything about genes
(DIR) Post #B61g2e8ZBUznV6rcv2 by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
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@mischievoustomato @chjara @wyatt @stilic @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @june read the ops bio
(DIR) Post #B61gCQf88d7ObalBoG by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
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@snacks @chjara @wyatt @stilic @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @june im usually live and let live but man, stuff like this makes glad im part of the fat right. muting this.
(DIR) Post #B61gDmRCfBtCQitFlQ by georgia@netzsphaere.xyz
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@snacks @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @chjara @june @stilic @wyatt it probably has epigenetic effects like alcohol does
(DIR) Post #B61gjC0ddg6iiRRXo8 by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@snacks @chjara @wyatt @stilic @june i also think people shouldn't fuck animals for health reasons, is that eugenics too?
(DIR) Post #B61gjCGEhgaHUok07U by georgia@netzsphaere.xyz
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@FiringSquadsEnjoyer @chjara @snacks @wyatt @stilic @june people shouldnt fuck animals because its rape tbh
(DIR) Post #B61hUR47TiFj1QbBNg by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@snacks @chjara @june @stilic @wyatt also smoking during pregnancy does literally change people's genes, it is explicitly eugenicist by this definition to prevent the mother doing damage to her kids DNA https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3581096/
(DIR) Post #B61hVtKBteaIxKoHvU by wyatt@soc.megatokyo.moe
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@3 @chjara @snacks @stilic @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @june nah i have fun laughing about people taking this seriously
(DIR) Post #B61hVtYj1cD7gPbta4 by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@wyatt @chjara @snacks @stilic @3 @june yes i take this seriously because widespread incest is one of the most horrible forms of patriarchal violence regularly enacted on women growing up in cultures where its common, it's utterly abhorrent to defend it.
(DIR) Post #B61hXpJHnHA95HJGAy by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@wyatt @3 @chjara @june @snacks @stilic its like laughing about people taking russian law to allow wifebeating seriously. Throughout the vast vast majority of human history incest has been used as a patriarchal disciplining tool against young women within the home, it's only in a very recent blip that it's become taboo and then banned within a small section of the world and now everyone on here's acting like it's the actions of a tyrannical state to ban it.
(DIR) Post #B61hvXsYFootyL7BEO by FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me
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@3 @chjara @june @snacks @stilic @wyatt > However, research has shown that 10-20% of children who live through incest become victims of rape by a family member (Langan and Harlow, 1994). Most rape victims in the United States are traumatized before the age of eighteen, and 29% of those rapes occur before eleven.> Of child rape victims, 11% are abused by their genetic fathers, and 16% are raped by other relatives. There are no statistics on how many women commit incest with their children.> Incest between a father and son is under-reported, and the prevalence of incest between a parent and their child is difficult to estimate because of the secrecy.> Boys who adult family members molest have solid psychological responses such as denial, anxiety, dissociation, and self-mutilation.
(DIR) Post #B62nB1iqGzz1nojc0G by apophis@yourwalls.today
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@winter @fiore Miss Drugs is a beautiful name for a girl
(DIR) Post #B62nBP2TaAM47N67Ie by apophis@yourwalls.today
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@ozzelot @fiore burn down every machine in the universe that might have a copy or be capable of storing a copy
(DIR) Post #B62nC1TkfCkfKy9R5c by apophis@yourwalls.today
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@fiore anyone in this thread smoke weed
(DIR) Post #B62nC1mBYfUsG8m9p2 by patchuun@social.xenofem.me
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@apophis @fiore not me!!
(DIR) Post #B62nDJM3ge8H4HAQCm by Alex@boymilk.cafe
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erm... being transgender is illegal in some jurisdictions? and its even more illegal to be trans in the presence of a minor? there are literally children on fedi right now...