Post B60pf7UPCsbJy7XVUO by Ree@shitposter.world
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(DIR) Post #B60l18D0iGYenf4zyq by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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am i a bad person if i think making ai generated porn of a real woman is a despicable act and i despise it , despite the woman being an evil nazi asshole
(DIR) Post #B60m2YSug3bWTclDfM by kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work
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@fiore bad people still deserve basic rights
(DIR) Post #B60m8BxpFYhWQYuKno by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@kopper its not even a rights thing its just that if u use mysogony as a weapon it just feels so scummy and lame yknow . also if thats how u feel abt women in general .. yikes ..
(DIR) Post #B60mFCTNkvoo270fFA by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink Good question...I hate ai generated stuff in general.And it's disgusting that somebody would make ai porn of a real person without consent regardless of gender.Nazis however... In the case of ai porn of an evil nazi asshole the only thing I despise is that it's ai. Make it the good old fashioned way ffs.
(DIR) Post #B60mFCyvrd3VbxlrQ8 by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@raccoon yea no i disagree honestly , even giorgia meloni is a woman and as such does suffer from mysoginy . using that as a weapon against her is just . lame and pathetic and shows that one doesnt care about women issues , so its . its never gonna sit right with me
(DIR) Post #B60mFu0Vtcs13JqEM4 by winter@translunar.academy
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@fiore no you're just a feminist with consistent politics around consent. and what kind of person would do this to a woman ? certainly not someone we can trust
(DIR) Post #B60mH8vXuTeHcD6qno by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@winter yes agreed . ugh
(DIR) Post #B60mLAFKwmQmrhHfii by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
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@fiore this seems extremely reasonable
(DIR) Post #B60mLGq4R7NbJMW5oG by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
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@raccoon @fiore ehhh nahhh consent still applies to nazis
(DIR) Post #B60mMVsC1bpUEF6NJA by winter@translunar.academy
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@raccoon @fiore is it our body our choice or not ? who else doesn't get the right to consent ?
(DIR) Post #B60mQDtumrrveBfzvM by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
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@lizzie@brain.worm.pink @fiore@brain.worm.pink If it's not AI then it's like... OBVIOUS that it's not the person in the flesh.Also nazis wouldn't care about you when it comes to... Well, anything. So they don't deserve anything back.
(DIR) Post #B60mQE9VqsLUQYySEi by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@raccoon @lizzie kinda disagree its still scummy and very mysoginistic in nature
(DIR) Post #B60mQVmQJSZV6AJGkK by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink LMAO they made Meloni porn?She's a fascist btw not a nazi
(DIR) Post #B60mQyFST6QxOK6qtE by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@raccoon whatev
(DIR) Post #B60mekEbMtBFyyHE7U by winter@translunar.academy
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@fiore what a dearth of principles or even consistent politics on this cursed network
(DIR) Post #B60mjjH6MbmaSCp5Ps by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
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@winter@social.translunar.academy @fiore@brain.worm.pink If it's drawings I really don't think it matters.Nobody would blink if it was art of her getting shot.
(DIR) Post #B60mjjeUxcUvclllsu by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@raccoon @winter yes , the problem is using the fact that she is a woman against her . tjats what mysoginy is , how is that not clear
(DIR) Post #B60mtP8g5DYOtpUpaS by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink @winter@social.translunar.academy Would it be ok if it was not a woman?
(DIR) Post #B60mtPJfQMLPRudbiS by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@raccoon @winter imean , of course not , but nobody thinks about doing that about a man , because a man s body is not inherently sexual in the minds of these people . again , thats what mysoginy is .
(DIR) Post #B60muEEo6BlBNbkwim by winter@translunar.academy
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@raccoon @fiore art about her getting shot is FINE that isn't misogynist and has no impact on other women who aren't nazis, look at this bigger than just this one narrow situation for a second
(DIR) Post #B60n7I9UrAnfHhV8ts by winter@translunar.academy
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@raccoon @fiore it's still rape culture :Synthesis05_angery:
(DIR) Post #B60n7qXR0g9Nvmxjvs by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink @winter@social.translunar.academy Alright that's fair. The fact that you kept mentioning that its done to a woman had me worried that it would be a-ok if it was a bloke.
(DIR) Post #B60nw26QHvdiHCG6sq by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink @winter@social.translunar.academy Anyway.I don't know.I have to think about it.You gave me food for thoughts.As you know I'm not the type to just assume I'm always right and you got me thinking before and change my point of view on stuff.
(DIR) Post #B60nzHYNIaQf45slrE by morrigan@social.xenofem.me
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@raccoon @fiore @winterrape and sexual harassment very obviously != getting shot the intent is different (rape is always about demonstraiting power and domination. murder can be about a lot of things.)the consequences are different (dominating your way to the top of the pile recapitulates the pile.)
(DIR) Post #B60oFaXyRtpKbcTE5w by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink Oh and that was just for fiore@winter@social.translunar.academy 's opinion means fuckall to me after she was part of gang bullying.
(DIR) Post #B60oFak1j5T5D06qsi by winter@translunar.academy
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@raccoon @fiore ????
(DIR) Post #B60oiKtBk9d6RS6KZ6 by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
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@raccoon @fiore “but have you considered that nazis are bad people” believe it or not i have considered that and i still believe in having principles.a lot of this is that ive had to think about this too much as a trans woman on the internet witnessing Internet Wars. people are really fucking quick to call trans women nazis or pedophiles so they can justify cruelty and i justdontwant my humanity to be contingent on how people judge me. we dont have to see evil people as not people to judge their evil as such. stop nazis. kill em if you have to. dont relish in it. dont make their body your plaything physically or via porn.you acknowledged consent factors into this for others. is it okay to rape a nazi bc theyd rape you? i dont think you’d say so but you dont really have an option for saying so while remaining consistent.
(DIR) Post #B60olKfp09SIdrHHYO by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@lizzie @raccoon thanks lizzie
(DIR) Post #B60p1hCV0w5z8qMhGa by ireneista@irenes.space
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@fiore for the record we think your position is correct
(DIR) Post #B60p1rJFQhR4UfbEAq by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@ireneista thanks
(DIR) Post #B60pMNry590bGhcutE by Ree@shitposter.world
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@lizzie @fiore @raccoon is it okay to punch a Nazi?
(DIR) Post #B60pMO4NL0vvtBQpEG by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
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@Ree @fiore @raccoon depends. there are good reasons to do so and bad ones.
(DIR) Post #B60pMOGQcCZgUZ4S12 by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
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@Ree @fiore @raccoon why do you ask?
(DIR) Post #B60pMOUblTuvCXhm7M by Ree@shitposter.world
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@lizzie @fiore @raccoon you said is it okay to rape a Nazi? I would say no because no one deserves it.
(DIR) Post #B60pMOfx5IzVlj0pnc by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
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@Ree @fiore @raccoon i would agree
(DIR) Post #B60pdzx1kTu2IcONNo by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
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Had the same happen to me the other day. I argued against a pair of opaque rules on a server in Fluxer. Resulted in me getting blanket banned from as many servers as the power mods had power or influence in.Straight up called a neo-fascist, blocked and banned despite having in my biography that I'm a libertarian. 💀@lizzie@brain.worm.pink @raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest @fiore@brain.worm.pink
(DIR) Post #B60pe0Bur7oR2nMGae by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@Saorsa @raccoon @lizzie i forgot to add “no gamers and libertarians allowed” to the end of my OP , sorry i shouldve been clearer
(DIR) Post #B60pf7HdyKOPKXZJb6 by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
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@Ree @fiore @raccoon also i wasnt asking you bc i dont see you advocating for making porn of nazis
(DIR) Post #B60pf7UPCsbJy7XVUO by Ree@shitposter.world
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@lizzie @fiore @raccoon porn is harmful as it is. Ai porn just another can of worms.
(DIR) Post #B60pl0SaFr1JuAUhpA by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
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@Ree @fiore @raccoon i agree i just happen to find your chain of replies a little confusingly timed
(DIR) Post #B60pnms3EfaicxjTOq by Ree@shitposter.world
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@lizzie @fiore @raccoon sorry
(DIR) Post #B60q1qAxkDFevqHNIm by winter@translunar.academy
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@raccoon @fiore oh g-d of fucking course it’s about kio, he harassed me for fucks sake, I told him never to talk to me again and he immediately got his girlfriend to readd him to the chat to yell at me and my wife more, I’m so sick of the seemingly endless repercussions of being targeted by this horrible person
(DIR) Post #B60q1qOQw81jbca8Ia by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
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@winter@social.translunar.academy @fiore@brain.worm.pink Wow, amazing how bullying a trans person and calling them cishet makes you the victim.
(DIR) Post #B60q1qaUDJfUD0Dl5M by winter@translunar.academy
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@raccoon @fiore Receipts Or It Didn't Happen
(DIR) Post #B60q1qlTYSSUl5MXDM by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
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@winter@social.translunar.academy @fiore@brain.worm.pink Oh yeah sure let me scroll back in months of fedi posts.Meanwhile, provide me the exact links of him bullying you or it didn't happen.
(DIR) Post #B60q1r7SEk2VrFe5TM by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@lizzie @raccoon @winter there is literally 0 need to bring this whole thing up now . its been months , everyone has moved on , i do not wanna have to see this on my timeline ever again unless its just a friend venting about the stress of the situation . this is gonna be the last post in this part of the thread.
(DIR) Post #B60quDBCQtQjulJfBQ by kirby@freerobuxextremist.com
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@fiore all that means is that you believe 2 wrongs don't make a right. that's a pretty standard thought process
(DIR) Post #B60rEMp6HuTtcCafHU by MossGrowsOnNormanRuins@defcon.social
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@fiore @raccoon @winter Imo its not ok to do to a man, but it's like especially bad to do to a woman, bcs the purpose of someone making ai porn is to degrade and humiliate the woman along the lines of the poster saying "this is all you'll ever be to me and society in general because of your gender, there is no difference between you and the women in porn i jerk off to" and it doubles as a threat to all other women seeing it to not get out of line. So like it's messed up to do to a man, but it's a punishment drawn along societal lines to do to a woman.
(DIR) Post #B60vyx2ONLGL4NHAg4 by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
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@Ree@shitposter.world @lizzie@brain.worm.pink @fiore@brain.worm.pink @raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest I don't like hypothetical nazis. A "nazi" is just a label and can mean anything with any sort of severity. Does this hypothetical nazi actually commit crimes or did they just scratch their windmill of friendship logo on a bathroom door?
(DIR) Post #B6235qCx3n0ykgPJuC by tori@brain.worm.pink
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@fiore whats the story here??
(DIR) Post #B6235qNERZEpGZDWvg by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@tori eh , itpol
(DIR) Post #B623sLn4wJcUbVR8C0 by maxine@brain.worm.pink
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@fiore worlds scariest thread in history