Post B5vugC2JJbUSLAvho0 by RichiH@chaos.social
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(DIR) Post #B5vdD3SEReto6bZfG4 by azonenberg@ioc.exchange
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Whenever me and my wife are driving somewhere together and are backing out of a driveway, making a turn at a sketchy intersection, etc whoever is in the passenger seat always acts as a second set of eyes calling out traffic or "clear right" etc as appropriate.From what I've seen this is common practice in military and fire department circles but pretty rare in the civilian world for some reason. Not sure why, better situational awareness definitely makes things safer.
(DIR) Post #B5veZAPjLkYm11Vnsm by robryk@social.wuatek.is
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@azonenberg I don't like that it creates implicit expectations (that the passenger is looking at the area the driver thinks they're looking at). Do you have a way to avoid that?Also, what do you communicate when distance/rate of closure is actually important?
(DIR) Post #B5veZAfgORJuoUyXkO by azonenberg@ioc.exchange
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@robryk usually we'll explicitly say "clear" or "wait", and explicitly state the direction or area we're looking at. Or something like "can't see" if our view is obstructed
(DIR) Post #B5vegkJGHyeRN46H3I by becomethewaifu@tech.lgbt
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@azonenberg Same here with me and my parents, my preferred seating position in the truck has my head, the headrest, and the monster B pillar all perfectly positioned to block the driver's line of sight towards oncoming traffic at a few of the intersections by them.It's become such an ingrained habit that I just automatically do it at any intersection with restrictive sight lines now...
(DIR) Post #B5vegkWjTtQW2qP236 by azonenberg@ioc.exchange
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@becomethewaifu yep when pulling out of our driveway the curvature of the street is such that the passengers head blocks the drivers view of oncoming traffic from one side so you either have to lean forward to see around them or have them be a spotter.Less of an issue when solo
(DIR) Post #B5vfHwFQrjlz6y2mEi by robryk@social.wuatek.is
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@azonenberg Mhm. So, you have the passenger express judgement on whether you can go, right?
(DIR) Post #B5vfHwVjt6ohvXfnea by azonenberg@ioc.exchange
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@robryk yeah. Obviously this requires some level of trust in the passenger.Not necessarily something I'd do with a random but if it's my wife, sure.When I'm on a SAR mission searching roads with a teammate it's usually somebody I know and have trained and served with before. In that case we're explicitly looking for a missing person and will brief sectors of responsibility before we get moving to make sure we don't miss anything, typically driver looking forward and left with pax covering the right side and double covering forward.If i have to look away from the road to write down notes from radio traffic or check the map or something I'll call out "losing eyes right" or otherwise make sure the driver is aware I'm no longer paying attention.In that kind of situation I'm perfectly fine delegating responsibility.
(DIR) Post #B5vlqDuqHalBTi91OK by azonenberg@ioc.exchange
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@sen yeah but that's a professional environment with a formal expectation.Same thing in fire/military, that's something they probably train and have as a formal policy/SOP.
(DIR) Post #B5vlzlpfYENVH6HFWC by hennichodernich@radiosocial.de
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@azonenberg I do this every time I'm in the passenger seat, regardless if the driver expects it from me or not, I just can't stop it.
(DIR) Post #B5vo1gsR96NIOScCDQ by ivor@ivor.org
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@azonenberg indeed. we've always done that, I just assumed everyone did.
(DIR) Post #B5vugC2JJbUSLAvho0 by RichiH@chaos.social
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@azonenberg of course you do that. Why would you not? It's extra eyes that can turn independently of the main eyes!