Post B5nS8cMMaSm89cpcBM by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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(DIR) Post #B5nQaTk01clBcj2ovg by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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The comic I posted today is the first one that I have created from A to Z under a Wayland session (KDE Neon User Edition, Plasma 6.6.4, Krita 6.0.1), and that after 17 years under X11. A big thanks to:- the Wayland team for improving the color management- KDE Display/Input team for the tablet and ICC support- Krita team for a better experience on Wayland. I can finally adapt my workflow to this tech! I'll post a new install guide on my blog soonโข https://www.davidrevoy.com/index.php?tag/linux
(DIR) Post #B5nQcrM1CdW5RCxl68 by hacknorris@mstdn.social
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@davidrevoy <3
(DIR) Post #B5nQyWpYBq7u9i6o5I by waffles@masto.yttrx.com
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@davidrevoy omg your cat in every picture.
(DIR) Post #B5nR4NWHihP714t2x6 by gideonstar@mastodon.gideonstar.de
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@davidrevoy Do you know a trick for spotting the palm of the hand more easily, or do you use a glove?
(DIR) Post #B5nRm5EF5RCr1tHu4W by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@waffles hehe, yes. I already took the picture for the new article. I started by that. ๐บ
(DIR) Post #B5nS8c9FNEHdUwh8jo by feff@sakurajima.social
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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org that's awesome! I'm glad there's been some movement towards creative Linux use especially from Wayland given the direction of development recently
(DIR) Post #B5nS8cMMaSm89cpcBM by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@feff Yes, it was a path of the last two years of trials and errors, long long implementation discussion or small release step by step, sometime signifiant but only as a lib in backend before getting the real option. I tested them and reported bug on the way, but finally good to get all my check-boxes check and stop the "bug report and testing on a spare laptop era" and just install it for my workstation, because it exceeded feature parity. There is now some improvements too.
(DIR) Post #B5nStwHWKsEVYF8AyW by chris@mastodon.chrispelli.fun
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@davidrevoy It's great that you are having such success. I feel like a lot of loud people are incredible negative about Wayland (and SystemD). So it's nice to see someone have a positive take.
(DIR) Post #B5nSwfybPk6xqnaT5c by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@gideonstar I guess you want to spot the palm of the hand to reject it? (palm rejection),Here, for the laptop, I deactivate touch support totally on demand (made a *.desktop shortcut and bash script for that).On my workstation, the XpPen Pro 19 (gen2) don't have touch, so I use only the stylus. I don't usually use a glove, except on signing session (paper) to not put too much sweat of hand on the books of the owner I'm drawing something on. Eg. https://www.davidrevoy.com/data/images/blog/2023/2023-04-08_david-revoy_at_trolls-and-legendes-festival-in-mons_2023_pepper-and-carrot-comic-signing-session.jpeg
(DIR) Post #B5nT1h7YaR44qdAViy by gideonstar@mastodon.gideonstar.de
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@davidrevoy Hehe, I thought there could be something better than a script. I'm doing the same thing ;-)
(DIR) Post #B5nWAuzagKg4L2X3lQ by ToonLink@fandom.ink
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@davidrevoy We can safely move to Wayland now? 8D YAAAY!
(DIR) Post #B5nWAvETmyaT5DUwyG by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@ToonLink Yes, it is still "fresh paint" situation and small workaround in some places here and there (I'll detail that in my post), but for the big fundamental: it's here, and it has even a couple of improvements and quality of life on some aspects.
(DIR) Post #B5nWxspzTww7qROGIq by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@jussi I had fresh ICC files, so I fed KDE Plasma device settings with that, and installed DispcalGUI as a Flatpak, started it, toyed a bit with it, and concluded (maybe too early, if I refer to your experience) that I could make a ICC if I turn "sRGB color intensity" to 0% and run the Flatpak as a XWayland sRGB pure surface, on the display device without Color Profile.I'll try to generate a ICC tomorrow, I'm worry I had a blind spot in my tests about this part now ๐
(DIR) Post #B5nXrFNfMv6lgjXcH2 by keen456@infosec.exchange
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@davidrevoy That's amazing news! Thanks so much for sticking with it over the years and trying it every so often.
(DIR) Post #B5nbMbQ5mGFgsgJpzc by redj@piaille.fr
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@davidrevoyThat's great, can't wait to see your post detailing your setup!Will you stick to KDE Neon as a daily driver, or another distro? Neon always seemed to me as a bit too dangerous for everyday use...
(DIR) Post #B5nc58PAV73DvM7aNM by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@redj True about Neon KDE User Editon: it can be dangerous with the "rolling KDE Plasma latest D.E." on top of a 24.04 LTS Ubuntu (probably 26.04LTS in october). But right now, I need on my requirement the latest, for Wayland/Qt reasons, and it is among all other option (Arch based, Fedora) the least dangerous of the pack. But there is still a risk.
(DIR) Post #B5ndi3tfIOFHBrVn6G by redj@piaille.fr
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@davidrevoy Oh, coincidentally I just made the switch from Mint Cinnamon to Fedora KDE last weekend, after a few days of testing on a spare drive.I guess I'll see how it goes on the long run, stability-wise... ๐
(DIR) Post #B5ntd88Biwdw8oyW9I by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@Tapewolf Putting Plasma desktop 5.x on top of Mint is an excellent way to still have a rock solid install, and security updates. I think Plasma 6.6.4 is also the frozen version for the 26.04LTS ecosystem; so certainly next Mint will get this too (Mint team often rebase on top of LTS around October, afair).I really wish Mint KDE could come back as official, it was my favorite distro.
(DIR) Post #B5o0b2ERNwfCwfqcc4 by roytoo@mstdn.social
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@davidrevoy <3
(DIR) Post #B5oR1iHqFL8biIovFg by 70hz@livellosegreto.it
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@davidrevoy I want to really thank you for all the work you put into this, without it I couldn't be able to use linux for my job at all
(DIR) Post #B5ofOcDQNrrwu1ZL2u by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@danielsteinborn It's a part I had overlooked, because I had fresh ICC files at hands during my tests, coming from my previous calibration/profiling at the start of spring. I just checked that I could run DispcalGUI (flatpak) and I assumed that I could just turn off the profile manually in my session to let it do the work. I'll try to profile this week-end, and if it doesn't work, I'll search for workaround. This is something I need (and it will be part of the blog post).
(DIR) Post #B5ojETot8zFJmhVzKy by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@danielsteinborn Because I had the calibration device around, was curious, and a bit stressed this part could not work under Wayland, I decided to test it now. It's a success! But you have to know:- DispCALGUI can't reset profile, you have to do it manually prior launching the app- DispCalGUI can't install itself the ICC or apply it after completion; but can produce a 7zip archive with the ICC inside it.
(DIR) Post #B5ojfZgTRsk3n6UzSq by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@mica @jussi Yes,my prev ICCs came from my Debian 12 X11 session. But because I had the calibration device around, was curious, and a bit stressed this part could not work under Wayland, I decided to test it now. It's a success! ๐ But you have to know:- DispCALGUI can't reset profile, you have to do it manually prior launching the app- DispCalGUI can't install itself the ICC or apply it after completion; but can produce a 7zip archive with the ICC inside it.
(DIR) Post #B5pRnknqOAXUZjelns by mica@gts.silentumbrella.com
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@davidrevoy the xwayland window that displaycal is running in isn't forced to be sRGB?@jussi
(DIR) Post #B5pRnl1Ja5JZFVxWng by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@mica @jussi Yes, dispCalGUI runs on a XWayland windows, so, a assumed sRGB surface. That's why you need to turn off any profile on the Display Settings of Plasma before running it, so the sRGB isn't applied and the apps use all gamut of the monitor (unprofiled RGB).
(DIR) Post #B5wUU1cToaAKuPLRNQ by Juankprada@mstdn.jp
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@davidrevoy I really wish I could follow your steps. My current hardware is a limitation. Iโll stick to X11 for as long as Wayland misbehaves with Nvidia GPUs or I can afford a new laptop without Nvidia gpu ๐คท