Post B5nM0Gl8PiZv7V3Pn6 by coolboymew@shitposter.world
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 (DIR) Post #B5n7GMbOxVDwYwiYxk by coolboymew@shitposter.world
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       So what's a non-garbage TV brand these days? I don't even need it to be smart as I will just plug a computer anyways, but they're all smart nowadays...So basically, a non-garbage TV that won't cuck me from non-smart features if I don't put it on the WIFI, because I absolutely won't
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n7bSXO5RCh3GtpIm by ElDeadKennedy@shitposter.world
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       @coolboymew no such thing
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n7lYEDmbpZb6kML2 by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
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       @coolboymew None of them.Just get a decent used non-smart TV, or get a commercial display of the right size.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n7lYUWnysIPgNNku by rain@melonbread.xyz
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       @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @coolboymew@shitposter.world This is the said truth. I did set setup a 55in Hisense the other day that asked if I wanted the "smart features" or just a display. Not that I trust them not to run a bunch of stuff in the background but did find it interesting that I was provided the option.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n7oNIsrEXgaFH3Oy by ElDeadKennedy@shitposter.world
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       @coolboymew my parents bought a new tv not too long ago. i installed it for themthe first thing that appears when you turn it on for the first time: Google's term and conditions, license agreements, privacy agreements and all that bullshitcan't do anything without accepting every single one of them. can't change the volume, can't change the input, nothing. you HAVE to accept all those agreements before you can do anything
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n7rPnu1B3pCtETqq by coolboymew@shitposter.world
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       @rain @Suiseiseki  I was thinking Hisense actually. I know not to go with Samsung at the very least because they apparently run ads. As for>Just get a decent used non-smart TVLiterally does not exist anymore it seems
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n7vYvw15BsgDy1YG by coolboymew@shitposter.world
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       @ElDeadKennedy jesus christ
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n8IPsjptafGeMynY by ElDeadKennedy@shitposter.world
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       @coolboymew the options areuse a crt tvstop being a goy and don't have a tv
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n8PsX7i2PI9gokt6 by rain@melonbread.xyz
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       @coolboymew@shitposter.world I was thinking HisenseI mean as a display it is fine it does not look bad, was affordable. And does not do that weird smoothing thing (I forget what it is called) that a lot of TVs do now and days that boomers love.I think i can dig up what model it was....whoops it was a TCL not Hisense but here it is all the same if interested. I paid $240 USD for it
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n8PslIrJkWrfS4zQ by coolboymew@shitposter.world
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       @rain apparently non-smart TVs still does exists, but the options are... singularhttps://www.amazon.ca/Westinghouse-Parental-Controls-Non-Smart-Monitor/dp/B09QRM1LVN
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n8XqSbIgJc2iV7QG by ElDeadKennedy@shitposter.world
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       @coolboymew or a projector, maybe. some of those are smart tho
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n8Y9pHIakE6YFzuK by hj@shigusegubu.club
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       @coolboymew I have Philips, it's smart capabilities are pretty dumb as it runs its own os, not android
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n8cZYlZ0LJ4gdgDA by coolboymew@shitposter.world
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       @hj Thanks, I'll look into it as most TVs seems to be either Fire OS, some Google OS or Tizen, whatever that is
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n92bcSWqJ6zWmQ2y by rain@melonbread.xyz
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       @coolboymew@shitposter.world Yeah options and sizes are spares the last time I tried to get one was 6  years~ ago and the meta was to search "for camper or RV"
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n92bslYDLpo6PRSq by coolboymew@shitposter.world
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       @rain unfortunately every single ones I've seen that are non-smart are either not 1080p or just not big enough. I just gotta go with a Smart TV that's the least "evil" possible insteadI could also just check the pawn shops around here, but last I checked most TVs they had had pretty major scratches or weren't thin enough for what I need it for
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n97iEfMCdAxX5OTI by hj@shigusegubu.club
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       @coolboymew I miss FirefoxOS
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n9Cndigyq5ASELku by quad@akko.quad.moe
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       @rain @coolboymew You can still find them if you're okay with 1080p.It seems like if you want 4K (and especially fancy 4K with stuff like HDR) you basically can't, because all the SoCs readily available on the market to power these TVs for any reasonable price only support Android TV.Personally I have a hisense, but the input select button on the remote doesn't actually open an input selector, it sends you to the home screen with the input list pre-selected, and honestly I find that annoying enough for me to not readily recommend hisense TVs to anyone
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n9FwEHDFLug0pHfc by xianc78@gameliberty.club
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       @coolboymew GPX is the only company I know of that is still producing dumb TVs. The only "smart" feature is the ability to play video and image files off of removable storage.Though I haven't tried them out myself, but I imagine the firmware is similar to the GPX Projector I got for my brother and it works great.https://gpx.com/in-home/televisions.html
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n9HUKduBUCjYXivA by berkberkman@shitposter.world
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       @coolboymew There's a basic offline mode for Google TV called "Basic Mode," but it's limited to TCL, Hisense, Sony, Xiaomi, and some other brands. It would've been nice if those plasma TVs made a comeback, but those are too expensive and too heavy.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n9JOtT5zSORjkCaO by coolboymew@shitposter.world
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       @berkberkman Def going with Hisense then. Thanks
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n9Jx3w3a22Q2u2ca by rain@melonbread.xyz
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       @coolboymew@shitposter.world hat's the least "evil" possible insteadYeah it is kind of a lose lose game. I wish you the best of luck and am curious to see how things turn out.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n9JyjnpP7FcBUzWC by Fullmetal2255@shitposter.world
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       @coolboymew @rain @Suiseiseki I have a Hisense TV. It's pretty good for the most part. It's a Roku TV, it'll display banner ads sometimes on the screensaver but that doesn't really bother me (it is gay though). The only real problem I've had with it is that it can't take display port to HDMI for whatever reason which probably isn't a big deal for most people.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n9M9zkwd5l6l08cy by xianc78@gameliberty.club
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       @coolboymew And I just realized that they are all currently out of stock on their website. Maybe you can find them on Amazon.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n9O8gAo9VnbdmjgG by Fullmetal2255@shitposter.world
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       @coolboymew @rain Don't buy Westinghouse their TVs are shit
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n9RI7u8iYlm7G8Tg by coolboymew@shitposter.world
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       @xianc78 out of stock unfortunately and there's no nice middle 1080p either shrug
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n9Vx1s0SS3n5ethA by coolboymew@shitposter.world
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       @Fullmetal2255 @Suiseiseki @rain oh I've seen things that has that issue. Mac stuff had that issue last I've seen, but I always try to have an HDMI port in my computers anyways
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n9ZFy438DNOeSFiy by condret@fedi.absturztau.be
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       @coolboymew why does it have to be a tv then?
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n9ZG9PMxHxxplJPE by coolboymew@shitposter.world
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       @condret because monitors of that size are usually insanely expensive and does not have a remote
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n9a6qnQstPPSShFo by rain@melonbread.xyz
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       @quad@akko.quad.moe @coolboymew@shitposter.world Yeah to be honest what sold me on that TCL was that I actually tested it in the retail location and pressed input and it brought up and actual input switcher not the menu thing as you mentioned (that only gets worse as time goes on)
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n9pB9Xicr364Pr96 by quad@akko.quad.moe
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       @rain @coolboymew For hisense it opens the home screen, with the input list pre-selected. which means the video and audio of what you were watching cuts out. And you can't even return to where you were by hitting input again or back. you have to hit a separate "close" button to return.Also the input list isn't static. It will list online inputs first and offline ones later. So your input list won't always be "HDMI1 HDMI2 HDMI3 HDMI4". If only HDMI2 and HDMI4 have a signal, the order of the list will instead be "HDMI2 HDMI4 HDMI1 HDMI3". I haven't found a setting to change this. So I can't rely on "input, then two taps right" actually landing me on HDMI3.I dunno man, I'm still fine with it because it got my TV really cheap, but the fact that something as simple as selecting an HDMI input is such a pain prevents me from recommending hisense. The UX for switching inputs is ass, and it's basically the ONE thing I regularly do. Powering the device on/off and switching inputs are the only things I need passable UX for.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5n9xzlhPpneOWT2QK by xianc78@gameliberty.club
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       @coolboymew Well if you can't buy those, then I guess go with this Audiobox TV. There doesn't seem to be any smart features outside of viewing image and video files on USB, much like the GPX ones.https://www.amazon.com/Audiobox-TV-24D-Widescreen-Monitor-Built/dp/B0BQZJNTBR?xpid=EwoOpk7-2hqVo
       
 (DIR) Post #B5nA5UtE6b7EwWZ7DM by coolboymew@shitposter.world
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       @xianc78 It doesn't ship here. I'm in Canada so my options are mega limited, I'll probably have to pick a smart one and pray it's not shit
       
 (DIR) Post #B5nB8gQblJuRYGGKmG by hj@shigusegubu.club
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       @quad @rain @coolboymew >It seems like if you want 4K (and especially fancy 4K with stuff like HDR) you basically can't, because all the SoCs readily available on the market to power these TVs for any reasonable price only support Android TV.I have 50" HDR 4K TV, it doesn't have android and I got it for 400€, it was on 50% sale. HDR sucks tho. It's a Philips
       
 (DIR) Post #B5nBCmy3OHaKzXrdAm by leyonhjelm@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @Suiseiseki Only if you’re good at replacing capacitors@coolboymew
       
 (DIR) Post #B5nBdGU2H3Dm3wRqLo by quad@akko.quad.moe
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       @hj @rain @coolboymew That's nice, does it have other smart OS instead though?My point was generally that the SoC manufacturer only provides Android TV images.Some brands make their own smart OS instead.If it's a genuine 4K HDR dumb TV, please tell me the exact model, I'm quite interested.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5nBr3gge6MoQlwWH2 by hj@shigusegubu.club
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       @quad @rain @coolboymew titan os I think. https://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/928354/Philips-55-PUS7609-4K-LED-TV
       
 (DIR) Post #B5nC2uyqqOcYtx5u88 by hj@shigusegubu.club
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       @quad @coolboymew @rain point being that titanos is much dumber os
       
 (DIR) Post #B5nC3xtRV3usE040Dw by quad@akko.quad.moe
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       @hj @rain @coolboymew Ah I see.I've been trying to map out non-smart TVs for when I next need to buy one.Closest I've found so far is the Gigabyte F48U. Unfortunately their larger S55U is in fact an Android TV.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5nC60wh7cykGrYtQO by quad@akko.quad.moe
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       @hj @rain @coolboymew hey it's still a win, because finding a TV with a non-intrusive OS is becoming harder and harder
       
 (DIR) Post #B5nEXDVuhb18ye8Nl2 by coolboymew@shitposter.world
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       @hj @quad @rain Not available here, because of course it isn't
       
 (DIR) Post #B5nI69Rc7igqM1TMoa by appipi@outerheaven.club
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       @coolboymew could you not just buy a big monitor and plug a laptop into it?
       
 (DIR) Post #B5nI69iH7m19BhGfmi by coolboymew@shitposter.world
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       @appipi No, as for a 40~ inch monitor, it's minimally twice the price for the cheapest one around
       
 (DIR) Post #B5nLvwft978nfcXRPE by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world
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       @coolboymew @rain Or you can just buy a LCD and then a basic LCD controller with only VGA/DVI/DP/HDMI/SCART/RYW ports.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5nM0Gl8PiZv7V3Pn6 by coolboymew@shitposter.world
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       @mangeurdenuage @rain I have no where near those skillsI opted for an Hisense, no choice