Post B5mWf40pW2rvqJWhSS by jaj@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #B5mLta9nhUOc61RVtw by EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu
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Meta's own terms indicate its services aren't for children under 13.Yet Meta is failing to keep them off Instagram and Facebook.We've found Meta in breach of the Digital Services Act.ℹ️ link.europa.eu/yPBWgY
(DIR) Post #B5mM9daoh6DZNwjdeS by spla@mastodont.cat
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@EUCommission just ban Meta.
(DIR) Post #B5mMDxiXoTdkxWPau8 by orangeacme@fosstodon.org
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@EUCommission Could you make the link clickable please?
(DIR) Post #B5mMjd1uGUVa41ZH7I by ABT554@vivaldi.net
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@EUCommission Even ignoring the whole "children under 13" topic, I don't think Meta was ever not in breach of a law or moral expectations
(DIR) Post #B5mNF40Y0kU0iCvD5U by alberto_cottica@mastodon.green
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@EUCommission well played. Keep it up! @HennaVirkkunen
(DIR) Post #B5mNqkZ2ka5RPf1kAq by DrJLecter@beige.party
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@EUCommission Just ban them
(DIR) Post #B5mO1bwN9ZdHqu7NTM by elzapp@vivaldi.net
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@EUCommission The solution would be to make metas services safe for users under 13. That would make it better for everyone. Doubling down on the age checks, makes us all more vulnerable.
(DIR) Post #B5mO9Dh7BRskyGbrDk by Ryoma123@livellosegreto.it
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@EUCommission Ma chissene importa?! Questi violano la privacy e la libertà di tutti i cittadini dell'Unione!
(DIR) Post #B5mOHy7QSkyXGp5WTo by zelgaav@mastodon.social
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@EUCommission Why don't you launch wide public campaign then? There are a lot of parents, who don't know they could (and should) restrict their children access to social applications. Moreover, I encountered teachers at public schools requiring children under 13 accounts in Messenger for contact purposes. They were surprised, when we pointed it is in breach with end user agreement and it is parents responsibility which apps children can use. That shouldn't happen.
(DIR) Post #B5mP8UEmI9VxwVZMzA by mariob@liberdon.com
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@EUCommission yet parents are not keeping their children off the platform. So take your hands off my children EU.
(DIR) Post #B5mS9aZmVepfkobwCu by The_Universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com
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@EUCommission There are two things.1. It shouldn't be META's responsibility in this case. You do not jail a store because they failed to keep the shop-lifters away.2. On the other hand, if they are spying on any user (even not their users) then they are sure to have the age estimates of their users and thus be able to filter them.From all the reasons, however, I found the inability to filter users that are underaged to be the least concerning.
(DIR) Post #B5mSZveAn7e4dKE0Gm by The_Universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com
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@EUCommission The link isn't clickable, by the way.
(DIR) Post #B5mUICNg2IWDEEBMq8 by clock@f.cz
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@EUCommission Whereas the IMO EU support for genocide of children under 13 in Middle East is not in breach of anything?Also, banning people from communicating with other people based on their age, isn't that ageism discrimination? What about freedom of speech? What about human rights?And cooperating with a country led by at least an associate of rapist pedofile human trafficker gang is also not in breach of anything?
(DIR) Post #B5mVcthSmnifKHs3zE by d1@autistics.life
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@EUCommission nice catch. Ironically, it's Meta who spent tons of money lobbying for the age verification laws in the USA. It would seem "they can dish it, but not take it".
(DIR) Post #B5mVmOaPJz35iy6FGK by ricoak@ciberlandia.pt
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@EUCommission just ban Meta and all other platforms hunger for citizens data and invasive algorithms. What's is bad for children is also bad for adults, instead ID checks that will invade Europeans privacy ban all the platforms that are unhealthy for the people.
(DIR) Post #B5mWOeeg1frgZ6L9EW by grob@mstdn.social
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@EUCommission good finding.Nevertheless, I do not think that vetting user information and making that vetted info accessible to companies who are in breach of the law and whose business model is based on extracting as-correct-as-possible user information is a good solution.I am of course referring to age verification.And before anyone mentions zero knowledge proofs: I doubt it will turn out that way.
(DIR) Post #B5mWf40pW2rvqJWhSS by jaj@mastodon.social
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@EUCommission That's the job of the parents. Don't rely on giving the identity of EU citizens to Google to enforce age control.
(DIR) Post #B5mYexatZwdLqSTSYy by ArdentArchivist@archaeo.social
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@EUCommission Agreed: just ban them.
(DIR) Post #B5ma1jvsdcRW5aiQzI by Catha@masto.es
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@EUCommission but how can meta - and all other apps//pages with age limit - check without asking for an ID - which is asking (again) for something private, and imho much too far beyond privacy limits.
(DIR) Post #B5mbQaJRdqN3Rn9HCi by karilapio@piipitin.fi
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@EUCommission THEN WHY is EU trying to destroy GDPR - the one law that actually helps keep kids and everyone else's data safe? We need stronger privacy laws.We need to attack the business model (these platforms farm kids attention for adrevenue) NOT users.What we do NOT need is digital ID "age" verification. That's what these platforms want! It gives them free pass to exploit users more. AND that would end platforms like mastodon, while meta happily starts mass surveillance on our kids
(DIR) Post #B5mcYkRJyPMh7uHzPc by TehAppKiller@mastodon.social
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@EUCommission What about porn and scam forced to be viewed on Snapchat for several years ?
(DIR) Post #B5mdQ2XFQPHib4TNMO by dunklecat@mastodon.dunklecat.dev
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@EUCommission don't use this to push your age verification app down our throat. Not that I really care as I don't use those services, but a lot of people I care about use them. You have a lot of opportunities here: you can force them to be safer and more inclusive for everyone, as they earn money using really shady and hate-oriented practices; you can push for libre alternatives like Mastodon and other fediverse options that doesn't put money over your citizens. 1/X
(DIR) Post #B5me47rN30vOh602EK by rogue_cells@chaos.social
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@EUCommission https://link.europa.eu/yPBWgY
(DIR) Post #B5mffIy2oQtJoRPgpM by gbsills@vivaldi.net
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@EUCommission The EU should fine Meta (or any other web property) a fine for violating the rules and then pay 1/2 the fine to the person who reported it. This will enlist an army of 12-year-old kids who sign up just to report Meta and collect a fee. I suspect that Meta would find a way to keep the 12-year-old kids out if this happened.
(DIR) Post #B5mfj1Oa5QmQTLb87c by luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@EUCommission Didn't need much science to "discover" it...Now let's see how much of nothing will be done about it, over the next years.
(DIR) Post #B5mhH94S9k0W4q1DCi by IncHulk@mastodon.green
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@EUCommission Agreed that Meta are exploiting the young and addicting others. But privacy is a human right so the solution to the problem is not to impose an eradication of privacy for everyone! Age verification is removal of privacy. No age verification has resisted theft/leaks of data which makes the young and everyone more vulnerable.
(DIR) Post #B5mivSQlhBkzesF67E by InfoMgmtExec@mastodon.social
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#DigitalGrifters - #Meta. #GriftersGonnaGrift.@EUCommission
(DIR) Post #B5mjbyZQaiwtV4ZEa8 by gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.lu
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And I see the @EUCommission fail to be immune toeta propaganda.so instead of forcing Meta to do it's thing, you fold under Metas filthy arguments that age verification is the task of the OS and not of the child molesting service provider.
(DIR) Post #B5mw9eyj8gI025EG4e by shanie@mastodon.tails.ch
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@EUCommission Meta continues to hand off user verification to minimize their costs and burdens. California passed a law mandating that Operating Systems, not trillion dollar corporations, need to be the gatekeeper. Meta needs to take responsibility for their bad service and not let them declare “not my problem, the OS said they were 13”. Lobbying here is clear cut and they’re trying to dodge their duty.
(DIR) Post #B5mwcNemcTZihyayki by drmarinusk@mastodon.social
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@EUCommission
(DIR) Post #B5oBInn5RBlmRLYsaG by quwm@mastodon.social
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@EUCommission Freedom dividend:Big (tech) companies who make billions out of (free) public information need to pay virtual shares for market access in Europe, that will be equally distributed among all citizens.Also:Neutral intermediaries (DGA) are a thing, in media too. One could build a reasonable EUDI and be done with bullshit like this.I think that is what the EU tries to do, lol.
(DIR) Post #B5oxBk4heNPWgjV6v2 by EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu
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Hi @paranormal_distribution Thanks for your comment. Under the Digital Services Act, platforms remain responsible for assessing and mitigating risks on their services, including the protection of minors.Our preliminary findings concern whether these obligations are being effectively fulfilled. The process is ongoing and allows the company to respond before any final decision is taken.
(DIR) Post #B5oxiYBQspMRMcICnY by dunklecat@mastodon.dunklecat.dev
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@EUCommission You can support a safer, more inclusive and libre world. You can give your citizens the power they lack right now over their data. You only have to support us, the libre and open source world, as much as possible. You can make a difference, you only have to choose wisely. 2/2
(DIR) Post #B5oxiYQJzTGq6nG60O by EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu
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Hi, @dunklecat Thanks for your comment. The aim of the our work is to ensure that platforms operating in the EU comply with existing rules, including the protection of minors under the Digital Services Act.At the same time, efforts on age verification are designed to be privacy-preserving, so users can prove they meet age requirements without sharing unnecessary personal data. More info here: https://link.europa.eu/DxBdRg
(DIR) Post #B5oyBcaDbVu7PJkRc0 by EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu
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Hi, @TehAppKiller Thanks for your comment. Under the Digital Services Act, platforms are required to take measures to address illegal content, including scams, and to reduce the risks of users, especially minors, being exposed to harmful content.We monitor how these measures work in practice and can take action where platforms do not meet their obligations.
(DIR) Post #B5oyQrZABDYwDhWRfM by EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu
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Hi, @karilapio . The EU’s work on age verification does not replace or weaken GDPR. Data protection rules continue to fully apply.Current efforts focus on privacy-preserving solutions, allowing users to prove they meet age requirements without sharing unnecessary personal data. More info here: https://link.europa.eu/DxBdRg
(DIR) Post #B5ozHb2yKQn0KnbuTo by Kurosetii@mastodon.social
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@EUCommission @paranormal_distribution Discord declares it's for 13+, but anyone can lie and access NSFW servers. I personally reported a 13-year-old in an explicit channel, and Discord did nothing. Their 'protection' is just a button that teenagers can easily bypass, and their reporting system is totally ineffective there's should to be a check by the EU soon as possible
(DIR) Post #B5xZg5tMRydGYxm7A8 by karilapio@piipitin.fi
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@EUCommissionOh no, that is a whole separate effort. Nobody looks at anything holistically. Tech policy is all separated into tiny pieces making it easier for companies like meta to get what they want.You can not age verify without verifying ID and verifying ID requires collecting the most sensitive data. Which can then be breached and misused as we have seen in UK's OSA that EU should be inspecting closely as a warning AGAINST pushing forward with "age verification".