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(DIR) Post #B5ir4KPUuIX6OGY73w by Gargron@mastodon.social
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Male fragrance sections at shops are always so sad. Would you like to smell like you just downed a bottle of gin, like a leather couch, or like you were sitting on the wrong side of a campfire? Women get all the nice fruits and flowers. This stuff shouldn’t be gendered anyway like most things.
(DIR) Post #B5irET03pEvVvWUBF2 by nickfrederiksen@expressional.social
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@Gargron the ingredients between male and female fragrances are identical. Only difference is ratios.
(DIR) Post #B5irFg3WllGOhzgVYe by Ameboid@mastodon.social
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@Gargron Would you like some banana? What about bubblegum? Or candy? Maybe an exotic raccoon?
(DIR) Post #B5irQJAkBrbOvD84nY by cpy@mastodon.social
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@Gargron You just stay away from my motor oil flavored body wash, shampoo, perfume, dish soap 4-in-1.
(DIR) Post #B5irbMrenrwZYfTWHw by stuart@cyberpunk.gmbh
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@Gargron Tom Ford is one exception that doesn't split their fragrance line (with a couple of minor exceptions). Of course, if you still _want_ to smell like a sofa, they've got you covered, but they also have some very delightful florals and fruits.
(DIR) Post #B5ircVfjXfapAFRV3o by Pinchy63@ottawa.place
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@Gargron Bacon, maple, musk anyone?
(DIR) Post #B5irsEOPYQ44CrpvvM by VileLasagna@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@Gargron fun fact, my (cishet dudebro type) favourite Axe body spray flavour is called: Anarchy for HerSo... Touche patriarchy?!?(Well, it was. Can't find it any more because, of course not)
(DIR) Post #B5irwn1Uk0t4lkI7zk by Heartofcoyote@neuromatch.social
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@Gargron I actually prefer some of the “men’s” fragrances. Alas I have not found a Drakkar-noir-scented car air freshener for… at least a decade?
(DIR) Post #B5irzNhBMhIp5N1gBc by Fietsbel@mastodon.social
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@Gargron Yep, you’re right. But despite being female, I myself rarely use(d) fragrance, and only the #organic lines, for health and environmental reasons. I also focus on sustainable packages, and also that is an issue for most fragrances.
(DIR) Post #B5is6O3WQL30EKoeGG by covercash@mastodon.social
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@Gargron tons of unisex fragrances, usually in the women’s section. Byredo and DS&Durga are two of my favorites.
(DIR) Post #B5isFgEQDS11CwLUDg by gneilyo@mastodon.online
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@Gargron Recently had a laugh at the men’s personal care products aisle. There was so much black and safety orange on all the packaging that it looked like the auto parts section.
(DIR) Post #B5isVNJMKT6XA18fVA by noodlemaz@mstdn.games
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@Gargron someone in our building drowns themselves in cologne before getting into the lift.You cannot breatheAnd I hate when people do this before using public transport.Just... Wash yourself. You don't need to douse yourself in smell, really. It's so icky (and gives a lot of people genuine respiratory problems!).Smelling nice is one thing but the overdoing it can get in the bin.Maybe we millennials can kill Fragrance like we killed laundry conditioner... 🤔
(DIR) Post #B5isluaqM57x14CbYm by PizzaDemon@mastodon.online
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@Gargron in my family, when we bake, we put a drop of vanilla extract behind the ear. Make that persistent and I'd wear it.
(DIR) Post #B5ismvag8HQeOnbrY8 by VsQ@mastodontti.fi
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@Gargron Same goes with clothing. Men’s color are black and different shades of (dark) gray. If you’re a brave soul you might find white or melange colors.Meanwhile women and kids get all the colors of the rainbow.
(DIR) Post #B5itI1yQS00ZAlY3Em by catbrainz@retro.pizza
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@Gargron that's cultural I think - in the gulf countries rose is commonly used by men, for example. But in the west I find niche perfumers tend to not divide their scents by gender, which is nice.
(DIR) Post #B5itgTQ83VM3FPA4Fk by HappyCrow13@mastodon.social
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@Gargron Go buy what you want, don't let packaging stop you.
(DIR) Post #B5itqSgrcnXXsYkfmC by JPZ@mastodon.social
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@Gargron I tend to always get the "Tobacco/Cigar/Whiskey" scented body wash as a gift. I really like Lavender or Cherry, though...
(DIR) Post #B5iuJKqJsegrwEwV1s by RBWells@mastodon.social
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@Gargron scents don't really have genders. Just get what suits you, it will smell like you if that's what you wear. I will here put in a plug for Neil Morris Perfumes, indie perfumer so good and most don't have any man or woman labeling.
(DIR) Post #B5iuOLjK0esq8b3nnc by Philip@social.simplexity.quest
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@Gargron on the other hand, it feels like women are stuck with smelling like either flowers or food. Chocolate shower gel, etc
(DIR) Post #B5iv2YYBlMH7U01c3s by stinerman@mastodon.social
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@Gargron leather couch!
(DIR) Post #B5iw0Q0sdJEkNczQUy by flori@metalhead.club
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@Gargron are you based in Berlin? Check out the not gender specific fragrances at https://voostore.com/en-nlI have the wonderful Kirsch from Headspace.
(DIR) Post #B5iwALcNpRere2GYq0 by ashkendo@mastodon.social
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@Gargron what, you don’t want to smell like sawdust and otter musk?
(DIR) Post #B5iwVR9uQK4WuV0I3E by snaprails@cupoftea.social
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@Gargron On a related theme a popular scent for fabric conditioner is so called "Summer Meadow".I can't help thinking that summer meadows quite often smell of cow shit 🙂
(DIR) Post #B5iwadclVMTt1EysjY by aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@Gargron there's a cafe i used to live next door to that had a little shop in back that sold clothes and jewelry and stuff. i always liked that they didn't have space to partition things off by gender so the customer gets to use their own best judgement on these things. among other things they had some fancy fragrances that would be pleasant on anyone. can't remember the brand name though
(DIR) Post #B5iwmqfQpxPUwj3CUK by zimzat@mastodon.social
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The good news is that even moderate applications of men's _or_ women's fragrance are enough to suffocate me.A coworker thought I was joking when I said their lotion was making it hard for me to breathe.Walking behind someone outdoors yesterday and I started to choke up.No, I don't have asthma; there's just something about perfumes and colognes that I can't hand.I have a very mild deodorant I can tolerate but that's about it; everything else I use is fragrance free.
(DIR) Post #B5iyiNR9lwTh2YMwds by Flowermob@mastodon.social
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@Gargron That's right. I mean I am not sure I want to smell like a bad ginger subsiitute, but smelling like honeysuckle or lavender would be great as opposed to smelling like last night's single malt.
(DIR) Post #B5iyr25mV7SJRlUxNY by benroyce@mastodon.social
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@Gargron that works both ways:i have it on good evidence that many women prefer men's underarm deodorant/ antiperspirantsome because they say it works betterothers because they resent floral scents, that it clashes with natural odorsthe grass is always greener on the other sidebut yes: degender the entire fragrance product category
(DIR) Post #B5izGJsXVaXdqlMWQq by ratsnakegames@mastodon.social
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@Gargron you can just buy women's fragrances
(DIR) Post #B5j0B3fkR4dy5qQyum by khzimmer2@literatur.social
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@Gargron :) Couldn't agree more!
(DIR) Post #B5j0CmMzjkDj0fU12W by trinityblair@mastodon.social
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@Gargron as a woman, I can't stand the fruity and floral scents. I want to smell musky or like a fire dammit.
(DIR) Post #B5j0NUtD4KWhyrf7RI by screwturn@mastodon.social
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@Gargron "Why sure, I would like to smell like a deer's ass"
(DIR) Post #B5j0dVuz0oy5nv83ZA by bjoreman@toot.cafe
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@Gargron Motor oil and regret.
(DIR) Post #B5j162VHSCW8yTi0bQ by screwturn@mastodon.social
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@trinityblair"did you set fire to the Tesla showroom?""No sir, that is just my fireside parfum" @Gargron
(DIR) Post #B5j16ZHFbNu2cWOloe by trinityblair@mastodon.social
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@screwturn @Gargron *me hiding my lighter in my purse right next to my fire side perfume* :blobsweats:
(DIR) Post #B5j1C1kLBK0QMcbm5I by momo@woof.tech
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@Gargron so trueeeeee
(DIR) Post #B5j1IThg9PY8oCRITA by Bewilderbeast@ohai.social
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@Gargron, 100%!One of my favorite fragrances is DS & Durga's Rose Atlantic. I find great personal joy when I wear it for meetings in the male-dominated industry I work in. You can see the gears grinding as they try to process what they're experiencing. The look of, "I want to ask, but it would be weird" is what gets me through some of those meetings.
(DIR) Post #B5j1NsO5nrvwoSqswy by gumnos@bsd.cafe
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@Gargron @neil I find similar biases in alcohol. The last time I was in a bar (stupid work "dinner" meeting after a day on-site at a customer's, more than a decade and half ago) I took grief for ordering a "girly" ginger-ale+peach-schnapps. I have no qualms about ordering something my mouth would prefer over the taste of overpriced wood-stripper and leather that the other guys were drinking.(fwiw, I'm not a drinker, at one or two drinks per year, so this easily met my quota 😆)
(DIR) Post #B5j1agdSoC0g849N8y by JeffreySmith@mastdn.social
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@Gargron The fediverse is waiting for the official Scent of Mastodon to come out! For the physically imposing but emotionally accessible citizens of the fediverse!
(DIR) Post #B5j21kVgVkpFxrPqz2 by joejoetom@famichiki.jp
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@Gargron I buy both. 😀
(DIR) Post #B5j2AklEwop3Lgz9hQ by StumpyTheMutt@social.linux.pizza
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@Gargron Beats "Stale Tobacco" or "Eau de Outhouse"
(DIR) Post #B5j2Fga9uZmJpw9cuW by CaptainMalu@mastodon.social
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@Gargron I think it's often what does the other people like to smell if they are standing close to a person.Also just wear what you like why should a shop be able to tell you what you are allowed to.Maybe if more people do so the men/female categories vanish over time.I mean in history we had also a switch for heel sizes on shoes. As far as the Internet told me.
(DIR) Post #B5j2aY6obtB7deNSpE by LordCaramac@discordian.social
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@Gargron I want to smell like some forbidden incense that you burn to invoke a long forgotten deity.
(DIR) Post #B5j2p7Z3aHJdejXGiG by VampirePenguin@mastodon.social
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@Gargron Grass clippings and diesel exhaust
(DIR) Post #B5j3IRTwbtRxpL7r96 by Ighostrider@mastodon.social
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@Gargron it makes me laugh that 'Sauvage' for men is one letter away from 'Sausage' snigger
(DIR) Post #B5j3UJlR8AlDMiyDaq by dmitrylitosh@mastodon.social
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@Gargron clinique happy? Kenzo leupar? Paco rabano blackxs?
(DIR) Post #B5j3pWEFywZO6cYmwa by Fedihacker@masto.es
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@Gargron True. I like more "female" perfumes.
(DIR) Post #B5j5FzjmzZsr6mUv6O by chrislw@podcastindex.social
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@Gargron dollar shave club has some decent scents
(DIR) Post #B5j5Y9nyIgHLXp79wu by benjamin@piaille.fr
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@Gargron knowing a few good perfume shops in Paris most of them have mostly non-gender perfumes. Like l'artisan parfumeur
(DIR) Post #B5j69KD8ZfPCX4bn3A by rominator@mstdn.social
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@Gargron same goes for women section in new yorker, i want a t shirt with mickey mouse as well !
(DIR) Post #B5j7FkSO0O7pcmMrku by the_turtle@mastodon.sdf.org
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@Gargron ...then why do so many women in DC smell like burning insecticide?
(DIR) Post #B5j7YqZlTlXW6WvTdY by redchrision@mastodon.social
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@Gargron One of the best parfume I've ever worn is Van Cleef & Arpels Midnight in Paris *Pour Homme*, though I'm a woman. I totally recommend it!
(DIR) Post #B5j7oX6Jed7gKxdCK0 by leeloo@c.im
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@GargronThe leather couch one is for when you want to attract JD Vance. 😉
(DIR) Post #B5j9G7mtShGptMGcm8 by funcrunch@me.dm
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@Gargron Ugh. As an agender trans person I definitely agree on the silliness of gendering things.(FWIW, I strongly prefer unscented products, whereas my genderqueer spouse loves fruity flowery scented everything.)
(DIR) Post #B5j9SOkkD8ixz479Zw by OohOkayKay@beige.party
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@Gargron I'm over here in the corner wanting everyone to smell of nothing so I can still breath. 🫢
(DIR) Post #B5j9UYWWr2yQrmUh1c by rafalbla@infosec.exchange
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@Gargron Nah. Mine smell like Yak's piss.
(DIR) Post #B5j9swtVtdlNOusOlk by MaryAustinBooks@mstdn.social
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@Gargron It gets even worse with that. I remember first seeing Hummer cologne at the mall with my then boyfriend, who's an Army vet. He was like, "What TF does it smell like, axle grease?"And Hummer is STILL coming out with colognes that help women know which guys to avoid. I suppose I should be grateful.https://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Hummer/Hummer-4328.html
(DIR) Post #B5j9uDLYDGXKiSatIe by bit101@mstdn.social
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@Gargron I just want to not smell like sweat. I'd rather not smell like the detergent aisle in the supermarket too.
(DIR) Post #B5jAl5xUPcc99NYTXE by mossman@vivaldi.net
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@Gargron I am really not "into" fragrances, much to the chagrin of my wife, I'm sure, but the one aftershave I currently have in my cupboard is for men, from a big brand (YSL) yet it does actually smell quite sweet and fruity. I like it because it reminds me of cherries and marzipan.Edit to mention that one of the reasons I generally refuse to pay stupid money for these things is because my dad used to work for l'Oreal so I knew from an early age that the basic product costs nothing - all that premium you pay goes to packaging and advertising. There is fundamentally almost no difference in manufacturing cost between the no-name supermarket scent and the typical high-end highly advertised fancy-bottled stuff with the celebrity endorsement and stupid name.
(DIR) Post #B5jCGrugGewcoIxKLI by AimeeMaroux@mastodon.social
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@Gargron I am a woman and I adore Davidson's Cool Water and Hot Water. In fact, I use Hot Water whenever I put on any perfume. It's unlike any of the smells you describe.
(DIR) Post #B5jDYaAV5634wUMk7c by wizarro@vivaldi.net
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@Gargron it’s only gendered if we believe it to be. The only real difference is the marketing and typeface on the bottle. Wear what makes you feel good (and smell good).
(DIR) Post #B5jEXJ5jBgKPdy5atc by szczurtorebkowy@ohai.social
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@Gargron You like a scent marketed for women, you got and use it! Scents have no gender. Perfume called Hommage a Homme is great on me (a woman), my husband uses my Perles perfume and it'd gorgeous on him...
(DIR) Post #B5jEcISQyH5r7s5agi by argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org
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@Gargron Male fashion in general is like this.Women have all manner of clothes and accessories. Walk by 10 women on the street, and you will see 10 outfits.Walk by 10 men on the street, on the other hand, and you will see 1 outfit: pants, a T-shirt, and maybe some kind of jacket. On rare occasions you'll see a business suit. And if you see more than one business suit, all of them will look exactly the same. Not a single accessory between the lot of them, unless earbuds count.Boring!
(DIR) Post #B5jEh4cFrSpLe2xc5g by Kintarian@norcal.social
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@Gargron Real men wear whatever they want.
(DIR) Post #B5jFE9dwBvqEnCWPxo by causticmsngo@mastodon.social
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@Gargron Males in the wild also seem to more frequently use overtly offensive fragrances in quantities that would kill a small horse.Must be the same dynamic that motivates them to drive loud, oversized vehicles.
(DIR) Post #B5jFnqCpw45avzrWSm by preya@mastodon.social
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@Gargron Labels and marketing strategies around fragrances are ridiculous. I share a set of unisex fragrances by Aesop with my female partner ranging from "earthy" to "floral".
(DIR) Post #B5jFt3DMztR8jBb0dc by laescude@mastodon.cr
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@Gargron My husband loves Commes des Garçons. They don’t do the “gender” split https://comme-des-garcons-parfum.com/
(DIR) Post #B5jGSGz1nVevZ9gOUy by Neotheta@finfur.net
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@Gargron Maybe this is gay thing but leather and campfire scents sound nice & hot, I wouldn't want my man smelling like artificial flowers and discount fruit juice. Or maybe it's the association where I find camping fun (smell of smoke) vs grocery store scents (I don't like masses of people) and pollen allergies (flowers).No parfyme is always best though, people with good hygiene and natural (unique) scent is unmatched.But in the end, nobody else has say in which shelf you buy stuff from.
(DIR) Post #B5jIeYHxTy38cYWJWK by stonewolfmedia@mastodon.social
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@Gargron I actually craft custom scents for people. My husband smells like cinnamon and citrus and ocean water. And everything I make is non toxic ✨
(DIR) Post #B5jJsqBnpBbo9C1Bc8 by erwinrossen@mas.to
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@Gargron I feel the same in the clothes sections. Why do only women get to wear colors and patterns?
(DIR) Post #B5jK09UwQx5C3jSMq0 by lemgandi@mastodon.social
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@Gargron Dudes. D00ds!Mawaan had the last word on this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snGaZm7ScfM&list=RDsnGaZm7ScfM&start_radio=1
(DIR) Post #B5jS2w0jpn16jQAPj6 by luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@Gargron Male fragrances on my commute trains are far worse, even on early morning, trust me.
(DIR) Post #B5jTOecnFxGT8Nt5ay by matera@mastodon.sdf.org
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@Gargron Anything's better than an overdose of Old Spice! 🤮
(DIR) Post #B5jXvbktLSo7bke156 by tarraccas@mastodon.social
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@Gargron Ladies get the best shoes too, in my experience. Too many times I've been intrigued by styles that turned out to be women's only. Maybe I want to wear something fun and colorful. 👟
(DIR) Post #B5jZFVEXP2Bb7uYsee by bentley_lucas@mastodon.social
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@Gargron Shop at Lush
(DIR) Post #B5jl0f2FsOACdIVPxA by Skane_Canyon@mastodon.social
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@Gargron Yeah, I dont know why we need to smell like booze and leather. The only fragrance shop that I need is the bath and body aisle of my local grocery store. Brut Classic by Faberge has stood the test of time. It's a good clean smell that lasts a long time and it's cheap. That's the smell of a working man right there.
(DIR) Post #B5jovL4z2oPr6pV37A by grishka@friends.grishka.me
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Clothing is sad too. I distinctly remember that back when we had H&M in this country, one of their largest stores in the city was 3 floors of roughy equal area, of which the bottom two were for women, and the top one was split about in half between men and kids. Other brands aren't as drastic, but they still usually devote very noticeably more floor space to women than to men.
(DIR) Post #B5ju1tVUSL2pOOqLCa by Beachbum@mastodon.sdf.org
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@Gargron Paul Sebastian is pretty nice.
(DIR) Post #B5k232q82d2aGEYYAy by JohanDiederik@toot.community
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@Gargron That’s about what you can smell. The real reason of using fragrances is to feel attractive. Pheromones is the answer! You cannot smell these but they can certainly be effective: go round your genitals with your hands and then rub your neck and face. Have a pleasant evening going out without sofas, cigars, tar, motor oil or roses! 🥳😎😉P.S. I never tried it myself but my friend did😂😂😂
(DIR) Post #B5kDirf95SNpFnYx2u by walsonde@antifa.style
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@Gargron I prefer musk. who wouldn't want to smell like an ox penis?
(DIR) Post #B5kuSvWdFo8Qd5E9tA by markholmwood@mastodon.social
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@Gargron Issey Miyake Pour Homme and Clinique Happy For Men might cheer men up. A bit.
(DIR) Post #B5mRhjBysidoMtC2qG by baralheia@dragonchat.org
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@Gargron I miss Candie's for Men, the original from the 90's/2000's. It was a fresh, fruit-forward cologne with top notes of watermelon, but it was discontinued in the late 2000's. The online fragrance retailer FragranceNet makes a clone of it called "Exceptional... Because You Are" that's relatively close.There's also a website called Fragrantica.com that has a search tool where you can tell it what sort of notes you are looking for or an existing fragrance that you like and it'll give you a list of suggestions to try. I've found several fragrances I like that way! And there are a number of men's fragrances that are fruit or floral-forward still in production that it can help you find!
(DIR) Post #B5oSB9Ruj5pSW6b0Lo by xilebo@norden.social
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@GargronI would very much like it, if more women smelled like campfire istead of whatever they are spraying now...
(DIR) Post #B5pEfF09RYASDx1WpU by crimsonpirate@mastodon.social
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@Gargron is there a reason you can’t just buy the fragrance you prefer? I get the issue with gendered marketing but I think just buy what pleases you.
(DIR) Post #B5sZT9bcMMGmWgVQ3s by ikari@8bit.red
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@GargronI wanna smell like the ocean, like pine forest, like fresh wood ;D
(DIR) Post #B5topam7iZ4TdFXMUS by GreenSkyOverMe@ohai.social
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@Gargron I have been saying: Women’s shampoos are “peach” and “rose”, men’s shampoos are “tires” and “punch in the face”.
(DIR) Post #B5vLcwIlrXJoHCLGaG by geonz@mathstodon.xyz
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@Gargron masculinity has to be destructive, don't yuo know?
(DIR) Post #B5vLrUQllhfYBD1OHQ by geoffl@mastodon.me.uk
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@gargron I'd prefer it if people didn't smell like they'd fallen into a vat of chemicals. Especially in places where food and drink are served.
(DIR) Post #B5vU0VZZguA1xex2Yq by mildpeach@mstdn.social
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@Gargron @CiaraNi This is why I spritz with a good bourbon daily. No need for specialty products like perfume…
(DIR) Post #B68B1KOfM8HDW00O3c by sloanlance@mastodon.social
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@Gargron I don't know… you make it sound rather appealing.