Post B5dFYF6GRlIMYmag9A by kevin@fedi.kbg.sh
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 (DIR) Post #B5d2A107urR4TjpxCK by kevin@fedi.kbg.sh
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       One of the worst arguments against banning LLM code from open source is that “people will just lie”1. This is just an argument against any kind of rule or normative ideal. You could just as easily say open source itself is a waste of time because people will just lie and copy and paste non-FOSS code. 2. The GitHub style of development where projects have hundreds of unvetted drive by contributors was *already bad* and a security nightmare, pre-GPT. No software benefits from this!
       
 (DIR) Post #B5d2A1EJ48mJBiTHIe by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
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       @kevin there are contexts where making a rule and not enforcing it only punishes honest people, and is demoralizing.It's most pronounced in competitive contexts.If people compete who gets most changes merged, in a low-trust environment, that's called a Hacktoberfest and we already know it doesn't work.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5d2AJS5JeUjhf3XH6 by kevin@fedi.kbg.sh
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       Like, is the goal here to make serious software or to make toys? I don’t care what hobbies people have but I also don’t find hobby software particularly interesting. If the purpose is to make something good, then I’m sorry, but unvetted, uncoordinated volunteers are just not going to cut it. This entire idea of just importing the transitive closure of cargo or PyPI or npm micro-dependencies clearly doesn’t work well. What we need is cohesively designed applications.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5d65MWMsSenafxEYK by kevin@fedi.kbg.sh
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       @wolf480pl I don’t see how “not having your contributions accepted” is “punishing” someone. No one has any particular right to contribute to any particular project. That they would seems really upside down to me.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5d79PuOKC3DD1gk1g by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
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       @kevin what I'm trying to say is that the intuition behind these "people will just lie" arguments is not entirely wrong - it does make sense in certain situations.It's just that contributing to open-source project is not one of those situations.And people using those arguments should spend some time thinking about which situations it applies to an why.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5dFYF6GRlIMYmag9A by kevin@fedi.kbg.sh
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       @wolf480pl ah yeah, I see what you’re saying