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 (DIR) Post #B5NVCuOAkFssyvSPGC by MoritzGlantz@mastodon.social
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       How much knowledge about using accessible technologies can you expect from users?Can you expect users to know that aria-menu needs the arrow keys?Can you expect them to know how the tabs work?Roving tabindex?
       
 (DIR) Post #B5NVSNJ1VyaR0fQKsS by webfussel@mastodontech.de
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       @MoritzGlantz The most important and basicy thing is to know that sliders are almost always a bad idea. For everyone.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5NwIkDeANZXwNXcUy by cwilcox808@c.im
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       @MoritzGlantz Which users?If you mean site visitors who need to keyboard operate the UIs, if a menu looks like an application menu, I think they'll not to navigate the menu items using arrows. For tabs widgets, again, having the right appearance helps but gov.uk did some user research a while ago and found some users were not experienced with them and only tried the Tab key to operate them. Having a (visible) hint about using arrow keys when focus in the tabs list could help.If by "users" you mean developers implementing any of this stuff, no, you can't assume they'll even think about the keyboard interactions expected when menu or tabs roles are used.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5Ny3gjP3G5CgiLLge by MoritzGlantz@mastodon.social
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       @cwilcox808 Very valuable, thank you. That is my impression as well. I wonder if there is research about this.So we have the classic problem: technically not an issue (if the pattern is implemented correctly), but UX wise…
       
 (DIR) Post #B5OK09uWoqgL1HGl6W by cwilcox808@c.im
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       @MoritzGlantz I can't find the old gov.uk blog post about their Tabs component user research, it might have been a decade old (I think the arrow key issue was only with sighted users, screen reader users generally know what to do when they encounter the 'tab' role).Their current Tabs component page uses arrow keys. It also has some general UX advice for when to use the component or not use it.https://design-system.service.gov.uk/components/tabs/