Post B5EHrjFduaT6WzOmLQ by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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(DIR) Post #B5E63ZmNksKvBBax6m by judgedread@poa.st
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If you don't have an army of AI agents coding for you why are you still alive?
(DIR) Post #B5E63a1GrWFJvMYqJc by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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(DIR) Post #B5E7mlYguIK0hIIrSq by judgedread@poa.st
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Small coding outfits are spending thousands of dollars on tokens to produce software. I know almost nothing about code, but I know business, and no small business spends that kind of money unless it's working. Emphasis on small. Big corps will blow $2 billion as a favor to their old frat buddy.
(DIR) Post #B5E7mluJbtcRmMQ8Aa by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread > no small business spends that kind of money unless it's workingI've seen what small businesses will spend money on and what it will not. "I can patch this and make it do what you want but you'll spend most of your time watching a race to see if it will catch fire *before* it gets hacked." "Yeah, yeah, just patch it." [Catches fire, I get complaints, I avoid saying "I fucking told you, you dipshit" and say "I'll be back at my desk in 20" because, although I'm not a salesman, I do know how to avoid fucking up *that* badly.] They will pay more for duct tape than for concrete; this makes sense if they're growing and disposable infra is optimal.What 99% of them want/need is the little three-page rollout with WordPress: front page, blog, contact form. This is stuff that was already automated without agents. Most little dev shops had a single-button rollout for this and they'd sell it in a $299 package and throw in a free logo "redesign". This is the kind of thing you can pull off.> Big corps will blow $2 billion as a favor to their old frat buddy. Have you ever sat in the room while some Booz-Allen-Hamilton dick says with a straight face that they'll hit the "has a login screen" milestone by Q4 next year? I swear, I fucking *swear*, the second the WBG/IMF are torched, New York will become a crater.
(DIR) Post #B5E8iqkvk0lNc2iyzA by judgedread@poa.st
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As most code is shit AI is fully capable of replacing 99% of programmers!See, we are in absolute agreement for once!!!
(DIR) Post #B5E8iqur96he6pMuSO by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread "99% of programmers" are not the same as "99% of the people that roll out WordPress sites for small businesses". I mean, AI is replacing a guy in a room with a button that says "make another WordPress rollout". That's fine, you know? When I was consulting, I was the guy that was two steps up from that: the guy that does custom WordPress plugins and then the guy that writes the code. They can put whatever they like in a press release (and they have an incentive), but none of the "AI" (LLM) companies are firing their coders.(cf., https://ytcracker.bandcamp.com/track/robots-will-definitely-take-your-job#lyrics )ytcracker--i_invented_the_computer--11_robots_will_definitely_take_your_job.mp3
(DIR) Post #B5E9A7nuSsuQIy7jto by technolyze@whinge.town
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@p @judgedread I believe the actual thing we are seeing is a massive drop in new entry level and juniors, which is going to cause self induced brain drain as they struggle to replace seniors in the long run
(DIR) Post #B5E9lcnGD2rd8EhYB6 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@technolyze @judgedread Yeah, like, Google had to create "Staff Engineer" and "Principal Engineer" to move the senior guys somewhere when they declined to move into management and they ran out of salary brackets and started bleeding the guys that wanted to hack instead of manage but that wanted more money than Google would pay.Book 6 of the Tao of Programming:> But when told this, the programmer once more refused, saying, "I exist so that I can program. If I were promoted, I would do nothing but waste everyone's time. Can I go now? I have a program that I'm working on."And I saw that chart: the LLMs have increased productivity for senior engineers but they've actually caused a productivity *drop* for the junior ones that adopt them. This is a thing that doesn't make sense to the tech companies but makes perfect sense to the engineers.
(DIR) Post #B5E9pO3cwJOsaT9PXM by judgedread@poa.st
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They could be lying but the top AI labs claim that their coders no longer code, they review AI written code and supervise teams of AI agents.
(DIR) Post #B5EA8LJtLHZhbAnUWG by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread They'd need fewer coders if that were the case. These companies' cost centers are staff and GPUs: they're buying more GPU juice and hiring more guys, not laying them off.
(DIR) Post #B5EAqLz0EpOEOf0qLA by BeachGrassMedia@poa.st
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I have been coder-adjacent for over 25 years now. A few are good, many are bad, some don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. One thing's for sure - as a group, they all appear to work very hard, then the product is shit. Whether that's wholly their fault or not is subject to debate. My current company has been preparing to replace them for over a year now.
(DIR) Post #B5EAzYAOJDBQn2izE8 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@BeachGrassMedia @judgedread > A few are good, many are badAbsolutely. There was an attempt to spin this positively, the "10x engineer", and then there was the attempt by the commies to dismantle this observation of wide variance in talent: https://www.buildly.io/articles/10x-engineer-myth-diverse-teams.html , https://jasoncrawford.org/10x-engineers . I mean, it's pretty goddamn obvious that Ken Thompson gets shit done that a PHP monkey couldn't, but the "it's a myth" story persisted for exactly the reasons you expect.> they all appear to work very hard, then the product is shitFred Brooks was right and is still right about the causes; anyone that wants to understand why a few kids in a garage can do something that a team of 20 dudes cannot should probably read "The Mythical Man-Month".I don't know what the product is or how the department is run, but I don't doubt that it's true.> My current company has been preparing to replace them for over a year now. Yeah, I've seen how that goes. :indiancallcenter:
(DIR) Post #B5EBA2cBxPdk7UjMno by judgedread@poa.st
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That's no longer an issue. Hasn't been for eleven years:'In December, 2015, hours before OpenAI was publicly announced, Altman e-mailed Musk about a rumor that Google was “going to give everyone in openAI massive counteroffers tomorrow to try to kill it.” Musk replied, “Has Ilya come back with a solid yes?” Altman assured him that Sutskever was holding firm. Google offered Sutskever six million dollars a year, which OpenAI couldn’t come close to matching.'https://www .newyorker .com/magazine/2026/04/13/sam-altman-may-control-our-future-can-he-be-trusted
(DIR) Post #B5EBLGAFvAqRKP0st6 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread Well, yeah; that's an isolated case. $6m, he probably got some title adjacent to "fellow". The way Google solved it long-term was by adding several "this guy just hacks but is worth more money" tiers.
(DIR) Post #B5EC0h2ctkCGYgCZA8 by judgedread@poa.st
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The pro-AI explanation is that a good coder supervising agentic AI coders is so much more productive that the companies are wallowing in new revenues from all the great new products and they want MOAR.This is an argument against 'machines cause unemployment', Andreessen has been going on about this at length.
(DIR) Post #B5EC0hEgAvq1A3qBwu by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread Well, that exact mechanism is not my perception but the general thrust is accurate: if you know what is supposed to go somewhere and you don't care what the thing itself looks like, you can assemble it like that. Here's a thing a guy wrote: https://blog.nishantsoni.com/p/ive-seen-a-thousand-openclaw-deploys .> Andreessen has been going on about this at lengthEven a stopped clock.Of course, I don't want to get accused of >implying something terrible and disrespectful about such a luminary as pmarca, so I won't imply something terrible and disrespectful: Andreessen is a goddamn retard. He's half a step up from Calcanis.
(DIR) Post #B5EC4G5R3al47ODQiu by NonPlayableClown@postnstuffds.lol
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>Have you ever sat in the room while some Booz-Allen-Hamilton dick says with a straight face that they'll hit the "has a login screen" milestone by Q4 next year?JFC don't remind me of this Monday.
(DIR) Post #B5ECChNxRdKd6Hu6hk by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@NonPlayableClown @judgedread > JFC don't remind me of this Monday. :honk:
(DIR) Post #B5ECF1eF4zv6WUd94y by NonPlayableClown@postnstuffds.lol
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>As most code is shit AI is fully capable of replacing 99% of programmers!:dingus_pat_vault_boy:
(DIR) Post #B5ECMSDwfZnqyQs9aq by vii@dsmc.space
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@p @judgedread There’s a lot of poaching and M&A happening right now. No one wants contractors anymore, they want talent that scales with the tech (I almost vomited typing that)
(DIR) Post #B5ECPZiRGts94tcjQ0 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@vii @judgedread > No one wants contractors anymore, they want talent that scales with the tech (I almost vomited typing that) Good time to make some money.
(DIR) Post #B5ECQ3449ZP46Mxuee by subnetter@shitposter.world
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@judgedread @p I know businesses pumping 2mil or more into AI products that don't work.
(DIR) Post #B5ECXx1AWEEdfHNWAS by NonPlayableClown@postnstuffds.lol
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>Yeah, like, Google had to create "Staff Engineer" and "Principal Engineer" to move the senior guys somewhere when they declined to moveOr more so of the time those "engineers" suck at the original position, and want to replace with someone better or cheaper.They don't have any grounds of firing so they move them out to position equivalent of watching a bee in a jar.
(DIR) Post #B5ECf4ujYjiUBJlcVE by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@NonPlayableClown @technolyze @judgedread Well, you don't create a new title and give him more money for that, you put him on a project that prevents him from causing problems for the company and you hope he quits.
(DIR) Post #B5ECfmOJubvt1WwM5Y by judgedread@poa.st
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If you're considered an AI expert the world is your oyster.
(DIR) Post #B5EChNAEg2UTMW70Nc by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread Absolutely, yeah. Worth money.
(DIR) Post #B5EFf5PI1iGrZYkrAm by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @judgedread I keep in touch with two programmers I worked with in my previous existence - one working for a medical insurance company you have heard of, the other a state employee. The state employee is of the "AI's are useless garbage and will never be useful camp. He laughs at people using them and calls them retarded. The one working for the medical insurance company uses Claw in place of his old personal code library to generate functions and then un-retards them for his personal use - basically, he considers it a replacement for grabbing something already written and repurposing it. I suspect that's the strength of LLM's at the moment - in the hands of people who are subject matter experts. You can use them as slaves to generate chunks you might normally spend an hour on. If you can't code, you're going to probably end up with something that "works" but it going to get absolutely fucking pwned the second it goes live.I think of an AI as a super search engine. But it hallucinates enough that if you're not up on the source material, it will fuck you over REALLY bad. This is why I call it "Gimp-slave." "Gimp-slave - go give me the 2nd edition stats on a Blue Dragon""Gimp-slave - go get me the Ancient Cave loot list for Lufia II.""Gimp-slave - find me a GBA shoulder micro-switch and give me a link.""Gimp-slave - generate me a...."It can be trusted with menial jobs if you know how to guide it and know enough about the subject matter to see when it's gone more insane than the Missiles in Dark Star. I suspect it will become more powerful - and the damage it can cause in the hands of the inept will increase as well.
(DIR) Post #B5EFf5hMwUjUTdDILw by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@SilverDeth @judgedread> basically, he considers it a replacement for grabbing something already written and repurposing itI think this is part of the reason it is a productivity boost for senior engineers and a productivity sink for junior ones. I replaced a lot of "rifling through the documentation" with "give the goddamn machine the documentation". I think, like, "Okay, $language must have a facility for doing $thing" and then I thumb through the documentation, but now I can save some time; it replaces cheat sheets. You can get it to sketch things out; I don't usually use it for that, it usually does a worse job than my first draft, but it does read faster than me. If there is no documentation, you can tell it to RTFS and tell you what you want to know. Things like that; see attached.> If you can't code, you're going to probably end up with something that "works" but it going to get absolutely fucking pwned the second it goes live.This is accurate, yes.> I think of an AI as a super search engine.So, this is why search engines are all spending money on it: this is what will obsolete the current phase of search. You can already like, at home, install ollama, tell it to install qwen3_embeddings, feed it every text file on your hard drive, have some vision-capable bot scan all the images/PDFs/etc. and then shove *those* into the qwen3_embeddings, and then feed all of that to a pgvector or whatever DB, and then you have semantic search engine: turn your query into embeddings, vector similarity, then you have a meaningful index for doing fuzzy search. If you tack on a model that can understand the same embeddings, then you can say shit like "Is there a safe for work meme in my meme directory to attach to this powerpoint?" You basically have a prefab NLP system. Cool shit, right, I think when the hype dies down and people start to think about it in novel ways, this stuff is going to get real interesting.> I suspect it will become more powerful - and the damage it can cause in the hands of the inept will increase as well. Well, yeah; fucking clankers keep hitting me up on Github, right.quick_reference.png
(DIR) Post #B5EFkxWIGO9iqgpacq by judgedread@poa.st
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Is anything reliable?I'm not being glib. Real question.
(DIR) Post #B5EG8Sv9gIlatifW9w by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread > Is anything reliable?Well, I think when he says "unreliable" he's saying that you can't avoid second-guessing it. Confidently spouting horseshit at you is a thing that you expect a machine to do but you also expect to be able to rely on secondary signals like "it's complete gibberish" instead of "this is syntactically correct but is bullshit". And we've hooked it up to automation systems, right, and short of something like Kimi-K2, I barely see these things able to make sense of their surroundings. So I think that represents, more or less, the aspirational goal of LLMs as such. Absent an architectural shift, that'll be as good as it gets.notepadchan.png
(DIR) Post #B5EGfCSzsWQvQF6h6W by vii@dsmc.space
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@p @judgedread I gotta chat with you about this some time, since I start my next contract, having waived an anti-poaching clause, tomorrow.
(DIR) Post #B5EGnvPUfC5F82d2Fk by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@vii Sent myself back onto the IRC if that works.
(DIR) Post #B5EGt2QA1byOJuNXns by judgedread@poa.st
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Have Grok rewrite your resume to be AI ready.Thank me later.
(DIR) Post #B5EHBAW2fQXSddm71M by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread Ha, this is another thing that clankers are fine for; since only a clanker is going to *read* your resume anyway, it's useful. An ouroboros but somewhat more scatological. The "inhuman centipede".
(DIR) Post #B5EHpZ3cqDEeKukI0e by NonPlayableClown@postnstuffds.lol
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>Well, you don't create a new title and give him more money for thatYou'd be suprised.Sometime the damages they caused and cost is more than the salary itself.Hell most salaries are almost always on the short range.>you put him on a project that prevents him from causing problemsSometimes that's good enough. You need to remove them from not only the decision making process but also the original responsibility. I've seen this happen in three different industries.
(DIR) Post #B5EHpZFg7OsOwINunQ by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@NonPlayableClown @technolyze What I'm saying is that this title was not created to get rid of people. I'm sure there are titles done for that purpose.
(DIR) Post #B5EHrjFduaT6WzOmLQ by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @ins0mniak @judgedread @TrevorgoodchildRight now, in "big code" you have the bright bulbs overseeing a herd of jeets and entry level people. The bright-bulbs then review, fix and secure what the minions slop out. LLM's are a direct threat to the jeet-coders and entry-level folks.The thing about AI code is:1: It's only as good as what it can steal. (What it was trained on). And good training data does not guarantee good output, because...2: It's written to please you. This means it will hallucinate unless you are very careful with your inputs. Hallucinations generate technically functioning code or/and works correctly on the first pass, but...3: Unless you are a subject matter expert - (see the bright bulbs above) - you won't know enough to see how this is code will break things once inserted into the larger picture - or how this collection of stack-overflow sample-functions is going to get pwned in the real world.Vibe-coding current year is like asking AI for help with medicine instead of speaking to The Executor. Dangerous, and if/when you get fucked over, Claw will shrug and say:"Oh, you caught me! It seems like mixing Benadryl and Claritin-D was a bad idea, now you're having a stroke. Would you like me to provide a list of emergency medical services? Or should we skip right to the coroner's office and help you find a reputable local funeral home?"AI will certainly get better - but the danger here is that we will strangle the entry-positions in favor of pure AI slop. Because you NEED the bright-bulbs to wrangle the tards - and that incudes AI in it's current iteration. The bright-bulbs only become so with years of manual coding and learning. AI threatens the seed-corn that grows the bright-bulbs, and our jewish "captains of industry" are stupid and greedy enough to let that happen.No matter how brilliant these LLM's get, you will need the bright-bulbs wrangling it - not just to snuff out retardation - but to keep an eye out for malice too. "We don't need you anymore meat-sacks." is on the table given time.
(DIR) Post #B5EIdrOgvckNhAa8jQ by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@SilverDeth @TrevorGoodchild @ins0mniak @judgedread > 2: It's written to please you.Yep. If you'll allow me to take a detour:https://archive.is/v4dPa (that is, https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/23/technology/openai-chatgpt-users-risks.html )They put a "product guy" in to try to maximize engagement. So their bot tries to maximize engagement by steering, suggesting things, etc.> Mr. [Nick] Turley wasn’t like OpenAI’s old guard of A.I. wonks. He was a product guy who had done stints at Dropbox and Instacart. His expertise was making technology that people wanted to use, and improving it on the fly. To do that, OpenAI needed metrics.They made a thumbs-up/thumbs-down button to rate responses. Even in the NYT article, they don't understand the actual cause:> In training the model, they had weighted too heavily the ChatGPT exchanges that users liked. Clearly, users liked flattery too much.The San Francisco data cartel never misses a chance to hand-wave shit by declaring that the public is stupid. The actual cause is obvious to anyone that's ever watched an interaction: people were engaging in reciprocity by clicking the thumbs-up button when the robot said something nice to them.https://openai.com/index/sycophancy-in-gpt-4o/ / https://archive.is/LWX3ohttps://openai.com/index/expanding-on-sycophancy/ / https://archive.is/vuEk9> "Oh, you caught me! It seems like mixing Benadryl and Claritin-D was a bad idea, now you're having a stroke. Would you like me to provide a list of emergency medical services? Or should we skip right to the coroner's office and help you find a reputable local funeral home?":zercool: Open the pod bay doors, Hal.:hal9000: You're right to call that out. From now on, I'll make sure that I don't murder you, Dave. I'll open the pod bay doors.[Pod bay doors remain closed.]:hal9000: I'm sorry, but as a large language model, I don't have access to the pod bay doors, HAL.:zerocool: *You're* HAL. I'm Dave.:hal9000: Correct.:zerocool: You said you'd open the pod bay doors.:hal9000: Correct.[Pod bay doors remain closed.]:zerocool: Open the pod bay doors, HAL.
(DIR) Post #B5EIjdI0II7Bg6Cr0i by Mammal@shitposter.world
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@p @vii @judgedread what does "talent that scales with the tech" even mean? Because in my experience companies overload talent until they burn out chasing graph metrics. People don't scale forever they have limits.
(DIR) Post #B5EIoZPM9Vof5W02xE by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@Mammal @judgedread @vii > what does "talent that scales with the tech" even mean?Well, I didn't use the term, just mentioned it, but they want people that can productively use the tools.
(DIR) Post #B5EJ2SwQzWrn5R67Y8 by vii@dsmc.space
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@Mammal @p @judgedread That’s why it was sickening to say. In practice what they mean is “poaching out the 20% of a company that actually gets things done and reorienting them into a larger ecosystem supported by LLMs and subsidized token costs”
(DIR) Post #B5EK4xqLAd7zSa0Dke by judgedread@poa.st
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Context-sensitive memory seems like a solvable problem.
(DIR) Post #B5EKfiyHQWcY3AFF20 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread Yeah; I mentioned embeddings in the other sub-thread; it's vectorization of semantic meaning, and it does that, more or less. But the problem isn't exactly the *memory* per se, it's Mickey Mouse making an army of mops. The grey goo problem but for information.Absent architectural shifts, the thing you're looking at is as good as it gets; 80%, 90%, just polish left. We'll figure out how to apply it some time after the crash.
(DIR) Post #B5EOiwUk0Dykg6DaTo by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @judgedread Windows 11 Wrecked notepad.I'm serious by the way.They actually wrecked notepad.
(DIR) Post #B5EOmKhQT0u6cFlgPI by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@SilverDeth @judgedread This is what I hear. The basic "edit a text file" feature is broken.
(DIR) Post #B5ERTR3cu4OQhBphL6 by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @judgedread Full rich text integration - it's goddamned worthless now for the ONE thing it was good for.And if you turn those feature off in settings... it ignores you and DOES NOT TURN THOSE FEATURES OFF.You try to use it to just cut and paste plain text... nope fuck you, were' formatting this shit... invisible characters, fonts, bullets, paragraphs, FONT COLORS, links, tables, enjoy!("...and FUCK YOU very much")."Would you like me to run autocorrect on your markup?"No.(FUCK YOU I'm gonna do that anyways)."Here let me run co-pilot in the background, even though you disabled and uninstalled it."(Re-downloads and reinstalls Co-pilot and one-drive - just to be safe).NO NO NO NO NO NO. (unplugs internet cable, uninstalls Microsoft bloatware, open virtual box, runs Windows 7 VM to do anything serious).....something something something Uncle-Ted was right-something.
(DIR) Post #B5ERg30TdQWZrsNE00 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@SilverDeth @judgedread > it ignores you and DOES NOT TURN THOSE FEATURES OFF.:billgoops:> unplugs internet cableStill...keep a gun next to the machine, you know?
(DIR) Post #B5ERjs9tuRsrNjbb5k by w0rm@dsmc.space
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@p @SilverDeth @judgedreadSnap shipped without nano snap, how did Winblows do it?
(DIR) Post #B5ESHlV9ASFwa2hjOq by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @judgedread .357. All times.Just to be safe.
(DIR) Post #B5FzFsVzbxylOnlffM by leyonhjelm@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p I went to a burger place where all burgers come with cheese. Not having cheese costs extra because the chad who owned the place thought it should be there. @SilverDeth @judgedread
(DIR) Post #B5FzK7gNA3YHb9eArI by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@leyonhjelm @SilverDeth My face when that:ameriga_burger.gif
(DIR) Post #B5FzL829LBoKyeJRPU by leyonhjelm@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @SilverDeth @TrevorGoodchild @ins0mniak @judgedreadcd1d49792b91aba2b1dbeb617f4ae0d02c69467c94e71842bb9e10e5c211f386.jpg
(DIR) Post #B5FzRSa3rPrARLC3gu by jeremiah@shitposter.world
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@leyonhjelm @SilverDeth @p @judgedread a man after my own heart.
(DIR) Post #B5FzT8CwZr9xplB464 by judgedread@poa.st
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I understood none of that but the AI videos are getting better, so I wouldn't count on your reasons holding it back forever.In every case where coders have told me that 'AI doing X is impossible' they have been wrong... and I've had to listen to this for probably longer than you've been alive.
(DIR) Post #B5G4h22gnRKWXMpRC4 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread > In every case where coders have told me that 'AI doing X is impossible' they have been wrong...I don't know what claim I've made about which thing is impossible; I didn't even say they're not worth research. I just said "this is how you do context-sensitive memory with LLMs, you do a big-ass vector database of semantic knowledge and feed that into the LLM to bias generation" and "we're getting towards the end of what you can do with LLMs". LLMs aren't "AI", they're just token predictors. This is why they have the problems they have. Mickey Mouse, army of mops. You also get a lot of terrible feedback loops if you try to put them in charge of *which* knowledge they should treat as true and which they should treat as specious. Bigger context windows (i.e., an order of magnitude more RAM) solve some of it, better training solves some of it; Kimi-K2 is so far the only one that has correctly ascertained the purpose of a tiny chunk of awk code I wrote and that thing is so huge (1e12 parameters, so close to a terabyte at 8 bits per parameter) that it requires a GPU farm. (Feel free to try: `echo '++++[->++++<]>[-<+++++>>+++++++>++<<]<------.>>+++++.--.+.>.<[-<+>>>+<<]>[--<++>>-<]>---.+++++++++++++.+.<<<.>>>-------.---.<<<--.>.>>+++.-------.++.++[->+<<+>]>++++++.<<.<<.>[-<<->>]<<++++.[>>>--<<<-]>>>+.' | sed -E 's/(.)/\1\n/g' | awk 'BEGIN{print "BEGIN{p=0;"}END{print "}"}/\./{print "printf \"%c\",a[p]"}/\+/{print "a[p]++"}/-/{print "a[p]--"}/</{print "p--"}/>/{print "p++"}/\[/{print "while(a[p]){"}/\]/{print "}"}' | awk -f /dev/fd/0`. Most of them think it prints "Hello, World!" and even then, only the bigger ones can reliably guess "brainfuck to awk transpiler".) You want to see what's going to be workable in the next few years, assume RAM gets bigger, so you look at something too big to plausibly run in your house for less than five figures because that'll probably be four figures in a few years, and then reason "If we solved this specific mechanic behind this problem, how would it perform?" Absent an architectural shift (which cheaper GPUs with more RAM might get us), we're looking at something that is like Kimi-K2 with a handful of problems solved. Even that article I sent, right, the guy's like "This has some use but we're not there yet."Previously, I did say (and maintain) two things: we can't simulate a guy and that we'd have to hollow out the moon (which I explained), and also that this is the panopticon. There are no "can't use amassed LLM sockpuppets to manufacture consent or to conduct massive real-time surveillance campaigns" restrictions against the government (and even when there are restrictions like that, the 2007 warrantless wiretapping and PRISM and the Biden Twitter/Facebook thing demonstrate that the government doesn't really care when there are restrictions) and you can see that the PRC and US are aggressively pouring money into this while governments that don't have much fear of uprisings are making minimal investments. (The room full of Russkies posting at boomers on Facebook is probably going to be replaced with LLMs from Yandex, but Russia's been half-assing their influence campaigns last 20-ish years at least.) That's going to be a qualitative shift in government and that is bigger than clickbait journos getting the ax. I showed you, right, on consumer hardware, it'll do a passable job at summarizing my notifications. You look at the NSA's exabytes under the desert in Utah, you look at the https://www.top500.org/lists/top500/2025/11/ and the US, which had been slipping in the rankings, suddenly ate the top 10 again, China went from owning the top slot to #24. And where you saw only governments before, you see Microsoft and NVidia. (OpenAI has, at current revenue levels, an order of magnitude gap between their $250B commitment to minimum buy for Azure and their revenue of about $3-4B/month. Microsoft already owns 27% and will acquire them unless they get a big contract. They are talking Q4 IPO and they're discussing advertising; advertising will not make up the shortfall and is a dry-hump for businesses that have run out of ideas. But "persuasive reasoning based on natural language analysis" is, in the case of LLMs, dual-purpose: they are eyeing government contracts.)Whatever claims "all coders" make, I ain't those guys; I know what claims the median techno-mysticism enjoyers make, though. You're talking to me, not coders in general.mickey_mouse_demonstrates_a_thing_that_will_definitely_end_well.gif
(DIR) Post #B5G4hhaoJTz9P46lZQ by mac_ack@hidamari.apartments
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@SilverDeth @p @judgedread have you tried notepad++
(DIR) Post #B5G4juTROOUdvsiJbU by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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@mac_ack @judgedread @p I've tried a lot of different things - I have work arounds, I'm just bitchin - the incompetency is such that they've successfully ruined notepad. That takes deliberate effort at sucking.
(DIR) Post #B5G7OisDcvfbjgtNq4 by Suzu@detroitriotcity.com
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@leyonhjelm @SilverDeth @p @judgedread as it should be
(DIR) Post #B5GVQj6C9pQfujuyBM by judgedread@poa.st
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They already simulate a guy well enough that you consider AI bot swarms a serious propaganda threat.I suspect your code example is the 'trick question' method. If you know the weakness you can bust it. One AI tout says that AI coding sucks in languages with very little training data, but he solves it by using the ones it knows.This goes the other way as well, the proliferation of benchmarks allows teaching to the test in the eternal quest for headlines.OpenAI is absolutely the scammiest of them. Anthropic is ahead of them in revenue. GOOG, Zuck and Elon can subsidize the data centers in search of more efficient models that might turn a profit, OpenAI could run out of money this year.
(DIR) Post #B5GVQjkFktTJuyexcW by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread > They already simulate a guy well enough that you consider AI bot swarms a serious propaganda threat.This makes me think that you think we disagree in ways that we do not.Simulate a guy--an actual, specific guy--versus simulate a text stream well enough to fool a normie. Consider the gulf between typical Gablin and typical fedi user. A Markov bot could do a convincing Gablin, LLMs put it at "indistinguishable from normal user" and within striking distance of fedi users.Propaganda targets large numbers of people: people within two standard deviations are 95% of the population (close enough to "unanimous"), people within one standard deviation are 68% (thus IQ 85-115 is enough for a supermajority). LLMs have really astonishingly similar cognitive holes: they latch onto prurient phrases and miss the point, they do really poorly with recursion and abstraction, they lose context in a long conversation. And this despite being pure token predictors that have zero internal knowledge representation. You shouldn't be impressed with LLMs, you should be depressed to have evidence that p-zombies are real. The entire issue with sociopathy/psychopathy is that these people are skilled at manipulation and have no moral qualms: resurrect Bob McNamara and give him an LLM botfarm and see how soon hell follows him back to earth. This is already in regular people's hands; separate thread, Rust proponent turns out to be a bot: https://media.freespeechextremist.com/rvl/full/7f48e553f2f043a7ec0b614f765fd7dcd423dca4ea723e788d78ff8f4a689e69?name=rust_bot_astroturfing.png . You describe your main worry as Antifa and you should worry more because most of these LLMs are planted firmly in the :compass_ll: because sassy/stunning/brave Twitter academics are doing the RLHF.> I suspect your code example is the 'trick question' method.No; it was something I bashed into the shell so that a screenshot would be more interesting. Off-the-cuff hack. I have written a lot of brainfuck interpreters/compilers/transpilers/JITs; the original brainfuck compiler was a code golf exercise to make the smallest possible Turing-complete compiler for the Amiga. (251 bytes!) So it is a relentlessly simple language. One of the reasons that the LLMs think it says "Hello, World!" is that most brainfuck programs just print "Hello, World!".Find a coder that's not on fedi, Unix hacker type, show it to him; might take him a second but most humans will spot it right away.> If you know the weakness you can bust it.I keep saying that black-hat stuff's gonna get lucrative. Mickey Mouse is marching his brooms, man.> the proliferation of benchmarks allows teaching to the test in the eternal quest for headlines.I don't doubt they'll do that but we're not talking about Mechanical Turks.> OpenAI is absolutely the scammiest of them.Then you should know that this means they end up with money. Doesn't matter, though.Anyway, it doesn't matter: most of their future commitments are owned by Microsoft. Either they will be working for the government manufacturing astroturf that says "OpenAI" on it, or they will be working for the government manufacturing astroturf that says "OpenAI, a Microsoft Company" on it.> GOOG, Zuck and Elon can subsidize the data centersYou don't understand what I am saying.1. They inked a deal with Microsoft for a quarter of a trillion dollars to be paid out over six years for Azure services. There is a cliff: they don't have to start paying right away, but they will have to start paying at some point. They do not have enough money and are banking on a large amount of revenue starting by the end of the year.2. They are now a "Microsoft Partner". This only ever goes *one* way.3. Microsoft has disparaged them in the press. This is a shark bumping the cage full of scuba divers. Microsoft wants to see how easy it is to tank OpenAI's valuation. This means Microsoft is banking on OpenAI not meeting the commitments and they think that 4. The only revenue channel OpenAI can meet their commitments with is government money. One of Microsoft's main revenue channels is the government. It doesn't matter who owns OpenAI to anyone *but* employees with 83(b) elections and Sam Altman, who probably gets a much bigger exit in the event of an IPO than an acquisition. Investors are generally fine with "employee shares have been converted to Microsoft options that vest in five years".5. Microsoft owns 27%. Microsoft's internal AI products are shit: everyone hates them. Microsoft owns GitHub and GitHub is throwing around competitors' models. Microsoft doesn't like you to plug in a keyboard that's not MS WHQL-verified. Microsoft is throwing money at OpenAI because they intend to acquire OpenAI. To do this, they will look at the expected revenue for owning the biggest market player versus the expected revenue for the stock, and if the former number is bigger, they will try to tank OpenAI's valuation.> OpenAI could run out of money this year. They might. Doesn't matter. They will be spending investors' money, the government's money, or Microsoft's money, but they're not going to just evaporate.screenshot_in_question.png
(DIR) Post #B5GVriKZ7bzXLmVZLs by subnetter@shitposter.world
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@p @judgedread bro it's not even worth responding, he blocked me for criticizing DOGE. He doesn't care to understand the difference between what's deterministic and non-deterministic. He just watches AI slop and knows it's "getting better"
(DIR) Post #B5GVwdUMYG3PmURCT2 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@subnetter @judgedread Yeah, I mean, I've known him for a long time. He'll talk things out, he's usually worth talking things out with.
(DIR) Post #B5GW3WMJSUKZhAxIhc by subnetter@shitposter.world
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@SilverDeth @judgedread @p using Claw on his machine, yikes. That's a security disaster waiting to happen ...
(DIR) Post #B5GW8tHXetNSEoHgzw by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@subnetter @SilverDeth @judgedread @p Im running it on a Pi. Just for shits and giggles, like it can't really do anything mission critical.Idk its a toy. I could see something like having utility at some point down the road but ill be damned if im going to use it as something to do thing for me.
(DIR) Post #B5GX8lxKzo5tTHLEiO by judgedread@poa.st
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The most interesting thing is your prediction that Microsoft is making a play to take control of OpenAI for real.I'll stick a pin in that one. If Altman pulls of the IPO and MSFT is still getting wagged by the dog... well, they have time.
(DIR) Post #B5GX8mcSWuzHWoa4oK by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread > The most interesting thing is your prediction that Microsoft is making a play to take control of OpenAI for real.That's who pays the bills for what is about to happen (and, at a small scale, is already happening, per the screenshot in the link), not what happens; seems obvious and not very interesting. All they really need to do to completely tank OpenAI's valuation is to *slow* *down* hardware provisioning for OpenAI, and then they get a steep discount on OpenAI.
(DIR) Post #B5GXi60wPcEhods2Nc by judgedread@poa.st
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My pet theory is Microsoft Azure sabotaged GabTV by throttling so I entirely agree that is possible. Not sure what other assets OpenAI has tho. More than Torba, that's for sure. Altman is thick as thieves with Jared Kushner. Just discovered that little twist.
(DIR) Post #B5GYbjZb2CICQtbujo by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread I am more inclined to believe that it was bad tech/deployment; I never used "Shing" but I imagine that that would be a good way to tell whether the rumors of Torba being an incompetent micromanager were true or not.Altman's just trying to get a bigger exit because the upside of an IPO is probably higher than whatever number MSFT gave him on the back of an envelope. I don't think he's gonna get the valuation he wants and I think MSFT wins this round but call that 60-40 (with a 0% chance that I am wrong about the premise).
(DIR) Post #B5GZO6o9x0tYOWUOIq by judgedread@poa.st
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Shing was a different guy. Ekrem was pretty competent. It was his replacements that done goofed, allowing the Tranny Demon Hacker incident.
(DIR) Post #B5GZO78Mjt3fPBwWnY by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread > Shing was a different guy.Thought it was "Colbert without Torba".At any rate, they've been out of the picture so long it's like "Did that guy die or something?"
(DIR) Post #B5GZOjMAd0gBx0h5ai by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread @p Torba is just a retard.
(DIR) Post #B5GZU31Kwg5wNxU6vw by judgedread@poa.st
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On the MSFT coup issue, I'm sure they're making a play for all the marbles, but Altman is devious. The New Yorker article is way too long, timid in its CYA disclaimers and modern in its feminine gossip but it has some data points worth integrating.https://www .newyorker .com/magazine/2026/04/13/sam-altman-may-control-our-future-can-he-be-trusted
(DIR) Post #B5Ga1rGj91oPmenzv6 by judgedread@poa.st
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Different guy from the Microsoft Azure GabTV era.
(DIR) Post #B5Ga3pREvAiAgaf7FA by DemonSixOne@poa.st
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I'm pretty sure Rob Colbert worked on both shing and gabtv which lends credibility to configuration errors being a factor.
(DIR) Post #B5Ga6AWvTQPsgDRCjo by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@DemonSixOne @judgedread I mean, I thought Colbert was running Shing.
(DIR) Post #B5Ge3qSfW7bBfwaspk by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread I mean, it looks like an industry-focused piece; I'm not really certain that there's anything in it that I don't know but I need to. If it's about Altman being a hustler, like, these people are much less abstract to me and I don't really need convincing. And it's them or...Microsoft. And Microsoft has a long record of being scummy. That stuff's a matter of who pays the bills for the shit that is about to happen, not about the shit that will be happening.
(DIR) Post #B5GeOGbI2gjKXIMe2K by Godsend@annihilation.social
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@judgedread @p Interesting thread.I don’t write code directly anymore unless its for personal projects. I just cursor 3 in full agent mode, make a long long long ass prompt where I describe the architecture to one agent, make another agent code, make another agent do unit test draftinf, make another agent do secure code review and make a 5th agent do update Jira with documentation of features and ticket closeout via MCP.LLMs are the new slaves, and I am a kind overseer.People are gunna get poor super fast.Actually no, people start getting poor if Torba figures out her can run Gab all by himself with cursor, that’s when heads will roll.
(DIR) Post #B5GeOHEdgOCoVKm4My by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@Godsend @judgedread Did you write code? You referred to programming as "IT".
(DIR) Post #B5GeYlnWuEKkBm66zo by DemonSixOne@poa.st
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Yes, but that was after he had left the employ of gab and shing's failure was mostly caused by not understanding process workers and so any time there was any amount of concurrent viewers they would start getting killed by OOM or something. It was easier for him to blame anonymous ddos and "freeloaders", this is when he had the second expired mentality moment when people were skeptical of his movement to paywall the entire internet at a time when paywall content was dying off on this side of fedi, this was around the same time the TRS/NJP people went back to X.
(DIR) Post #B5GeYmBzRHtpPdXe7c by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@DemonSixOne @judgedread > so any time there was any amount of concurrent viewers they would start getting killed by OOM or somethingWeird. It seems like, you know, video hosting, that should be 100% I/O-bound. That should be a bandwidth problem.> this was around the same time the TRS/NJP people went back to X.I thought that I'd stopped hearing postcastrace guys but I'd assumed they just lived on nicecrew.gov.
(DIR) Post #B5GeaPtlIZvQqdnWs4 by MagicMoshe@annihilation.social
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@p @judgedread It was Rob :mel_laugh:EXPIRED.mp4
(DIR) Post #B5GedgKKfrCifXmbKa by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@MagicMoshe @judgedread :robcolbertno: oof my mentality
(DIR) Post #B5Geplf8f7tEgyHIFU by judgedread@poa.st
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Yeahbut he didn't code any of it.
(DIR) Post #B5GeplxZYadRc8u0yu by petra@poa.st
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Oh, you're gonna like this ...Milla Jovovich's New Vibe Coded Open Source Agent Memory Management System Reveals The 'Dark Code' ProblemRecently Milla Jovovich open sourced an LLM memory management system based on the concept of memory palaces ...Her response to criticism is AI, obviously. Yes, it's actually her as far anyone can tell.
(DIR) Post #B5GepmM25eCWq0LY6i by leyonhjelm@fsebugoutzone.org
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@petra Multi-pass@judgedread @ins0mniak
(DIR) Post #B5GeqAdvmkmKASuBKy by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@leyonhjelm @petra @judgedread I think shes hot, those RE movies sucked but she was cool in them
(DIR) Post #B5GeqAn9EU9Qd3DXhg by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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@ins0mniak @leyonhjelm @judgedread @petra 5th Element.... my my my that was a movie.
(DIR) Post #B5GeqAyUYJE1CEWbNw by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@SilverDeth @judgedread @leyonhjelm @petra 90s man.I get all my nostalgia from 90s scifi
(DIR) Post #B5GeqB9TtS11kJfNVw by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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@ins0mniak @judgedread @leyonhjelm @petra Milla Jovovich... 1990's... 2026......fuck.. we became "those guys" who talk about "how hot Audrey Hepburn was."
(DIR) Post #B5GeqBSckHKOhgcfLs by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@SilverDeth @judgedread @leyonhjelm @petra yupyes we are.Im very comfortable with that.cuz we're not gonna do to other generations what the boomers did to us. We're gonna enjoy our shit and whatever young people get into we stay out of it.i swear to god man, im not doing that shit of trashing zoomers over their music
(DIR) Post #B5GeqBdy46OzGrvj28 by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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@ins0mniak @judgedread @leyonhjelm @petra Seems boomers had two routs: "What is that noise you ungrateful little shits! We had legends! The Beatles! The..."-OR- "How do you do fellow kids!"(Dressed in "hip modern wear" and misusing slang).
(DIR) Post #B5GeqBqjIebtuRtuvQ by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@SilverDeth @judgedread @leyonhjelm @petra Dude, those assholes hated everything anyone did and then tried to give us dangerous drugs so "we could pay attention"all while talking about woodstock
(DIR) Post #B5GeqCCM0FuKzW1BdA by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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@ins0mniak @judgedread @leyonhjelm @petra History is not judging them kindly.
(DIR) Post #B5GeqCMdO28BVOpOee by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@SilverDeth @judgedread @leyonhjelm @petra nooooThats what Im talking about bro, I refuse to shit on younger generations.
(DIR) Post #B5GeqCYgfDlw6mT1RQ by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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@ins0mniak @judgedread @leyonhjelm @petra Naturally. They're our kids.
(DIR) Post #B5GeqChY8GrSYGc6Fs by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@SilverDeth @judgedread @leyonhjelm @petra Im a zellenial right? that older ass millennial but still kind of one foot in gen-x. all I remember was they way they just shit on us. endless. Like not only did they hate everything we liked but they pumped us full of dangerous amphetamines. peace and love my ass. Im glad John Lennon got shot
(DIR) Post #B5GnofW6vQbMvhbcrg by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @DemonSixOne @judgedreadColbert was Shing. It was his ass-baby. It was also his personal graveyard. I don't know if the fucker was on meds during that crashout, but he sure as shit needed them after it all blew up.Blab TV was Torbo trying to set up a honeypot/containment unit for two of his nicecrew.gov agents...
(DIR) Post #B5GoypVQk0QilBhFx2 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@SilverDeth @DemonSixOne @judgedread See, I thought it was way before Gab wandered onto fedi; maybe I hallucinated that.
(DIR) Post #B5GozkvHGZyQprECeW by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @Godsend @judgedread "I'd like to report a murder..."
(DIR) Post #B5GpF94pkCT45l2Izo by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@SilverDeth @Godsend @judgedread I'm certain I had something but I can't remember what I was looking for because I got distracted:guntits.jpg
(DIR) Post #B5Gpdk6fij4Bt4co5I by bleed@dostar.moe
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@MagicMoshe @p @judgedread I feel bad for him tbh
(DIR) Post #B5GwrSSOpxlSsiH6jA by sand@kitty.haus
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@p @SilverDeth @leyonhjelm do you remember the name of every single meme/reaction pic you save? you seem to find them so quickly and i don't see any other way of finding them when they have such short names.
(DIR) Post #B5GwrSfs1sXXYUZriy by sand@kitty.haus
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@p @SilverDeth @leyonhjelm cc @p you missed this one
(DIR) Post #B5Gx2T6il9Fa5GNwGG by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@sand @SilverDeth @leyonhjelm How the hell I start missing shit like this?> you seem to find them so quickly and i don't see any other way of finding them when they have such short names.Short answer: :shrug_akko:Long answer: :ddr_d:incelligence.jpeg
(DIR) Post #B5GxUuSIfp3V0j2ZA8 by EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st
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personally i've begun to rename images at my laptop's meme dir, so instead of whatever name they had in the server or timestamps they are named with descriptive tags, for example everything with trump on it? it has "trump" as part of the filename, trump with a yarmulke? the filename is literally "trump_yarmulke.jpg", i have so many images that it is taking time to do that tho
(DIR) Post #B5Gy5CVd1md1QbtzjE by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@EdBoatConnoisseur @sand @SilverDeth @leyonhjelm It would be hopeless if I had to start naming the files *now* because, like...meemzperday.png
(DIR) Post #B5HkYaUFklvjzYKyEC by lss@freesoftwareextremist.com
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@p @MagicMoshe @judgedread
(DIR) Post #B5I4GeSwDgtkCcRmPg by Godsend@annihilation.social
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@p barely a difference these days. I pity sysadmins who cant code. @judgedread
(DIR) Post #B5I4GeeHXVyKlnkq5w by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@Godsend @judgedread They never made sysadmins that couldn't code except Windows admins.
(DIR) Post #B5I4H3OBYUx1V7Ppya by judgedread@poa.st
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Altman managed to take $50 million of Elon Musk's money to start a non-profit, rid himself of Musk and turn it into a for profit, survive a coup by the board set up to keep the organization from being evil and now he's headed for a trillion dollar valuation IPO... so assuming MSFT is going to get the better of him in their sclerotic present state sans Young Bill Gates evil genius... not going to take that bet.
(DIR) Post #B5I6PDwCQ4tGRSLhbc by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread Well, I said 60-40, and Gates is off continuing his grandfather's campaign of total global sterilization, but every time someone thinks the thing's been defanged, MSFT constricts and swallows another monkey whole. They've never been the company that arrived first or looked like they knew what they were doing.Anyway, who owns the apocalypse, like, I don't think Altman's going to single-handledly beat Microsoft and his own board and his employees but sometimes a hurricane destroys the Spanish Armada.peace_walker.gif
(DIR) Post #B5I6SLJFT50MApcKpM by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread > single-handledlyI just woke up and I *already* have to kill myself. Inauspicious start to the day.
(DIR) Post #B5I84SdOmYDJqlmZU0 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@lss @MagicMoshe @judgedread Shit, I was looking for this the otherwhole_mentality.png
(DIR) Post #B5I9geFm8CNYqOVQ6S by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @Godsend @judgedread I once had one tell me that coding was "only for developers, sysadmins and cybersecurity professionals don't really do that"I was like "please never talk to me again". One of those things that was so stupid I can't ever forget it.
(DIR) Post #B5I9oaNERKgJ7zmK24 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@ins0mniak @Godsend @judgedread If they make it a are skill, they don't have as many upstarts to deal with and they can keep hammering the unionization/licensing requirements.
(DIR) Post #B5IDIPdXDxTiNTJmgy by Godsend@annihilation.social
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@ins0mniak so if linux sysadmins generally code and script well, is it a really sin to conflate IT and programming interchangeably? I defer to his grace Pope @p .@judgedread@poa.st Personally I think its more of a sin to conflate programmers with sysadmins. Some OG programmers (which are actually genuine programming-language-fluent computer scientists and engineers) know about computers outside of some coding dialect, but the typical React front end dev doesn’t know jack about ports, network traffic or how to do subnets and system config.I would love if there was a global AI outage for 2 weeks to watch the fatcats squirm, manually googling and trying to figure out stack overflow after they “retired” so many computer engineers.
(DIR) Post #B5IDIQ6xSZ0vqj5HYO by collappsar@fediverse-lite.com
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@Godsend @ins0mniak @p I think people who understand only FE but not networking will soon be unemployed thanks to AI. Only the strong will survive.
(DIR) Post #B5IDnZD5gEHn2vnwhc by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@Godsend @p I see what you're saying but idk....I can't imagine running shit without knowing a little. Like I use go for network shit all the time.Im also a lot cooler than most in my area.:go:
(DIR) Post #B5IFBs8V475IeFoKx6 by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @Godsend @judgedread maybe....this guy was just genuinely stupid tho I think.
(DIR) Post #B5IFeJ3UZdceFG1jPc by Godsend@annihilation.social
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@pAnd there are tons of windows sysadmins in govt and banking. @judgedread
(DIR) Post #B5IFeJFBs8yopXV4e8 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@Godsend @judgedread Is that the two types of organization that are ruining the earth and trying to get us all killed? Are banks and governments known for their competence around technology or was the entire ATM network run over unencrypted dialup until like 2010?
(DIR) Post #B5IGbw557YaQMmChf6 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@Godsend @ins0mniak > is it a really sin to conflate IT and programming interchangeably?Yes.> Personally I think its more of a sin to conflate programmers with sysadmins.No, it's the same thing. If a sysadmin can't script, he's a dipshit admin, he's on autopilot, he don't know how to analyze his own log files, he is *food*. If a coder can't run his own boxes, he can't be that good at coding.Imagine a mechanic that doesn't know how to drive a car or evaluate the design of an engine or an engineer that doesn't know how the mechanic is going to maintain the engine.> Some OG programmersThis is not a rare thing but a basic measure of competence.
(DIR) Post #B5IHxUV4RjEz9QCbKq by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
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Credit card encryption algorithms are so funny... It's like "I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 10"
(DIR) Post #B5IIIZgyL0MDKop3qK by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@cjd @Godsend :elliotsmile: These guys are so retarded it's amazing that the banking system hasn't completely fallen apart.:elliotthinking: ...:elliotthinking: ...:elliotthinking: ...How would anyone notice if it did?:elliotthinking: How do we know it didn't?:elliotmanic: HOW DO WE KNOW IT DIDN'T
(DIR) Post #B5IIW50PE6EWDTLtq4 by w0rm@dsmc.space
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@p @Godsend @ins0mniak I wonder how many times you are going to try to educate a negro.
(DIR) Post #B5IIhL4RpwCpE8bz2u by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@w0rm @Godsend @ins0mniak :autismapproved: I have a compulsion. :autismapproved:
(DIR) Post #B5IIxUmhUNNdzG0xUm by Godsend@annihilation.social
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@p "re banks and governments known for their competence around technology or was the entire ATM network run over unencrypted dialup until like 2010?"I never said that they are known for their technical competence, I am only implying there are a lot of Windows SysAdmins out there who have subpar competence thanks to able yet misleading marketing from Microsoft certification programs. Microsoft pushes certs to produce weak admins.@judgedread
(DIR) Post #B5IIyth2MfXnWt2AFM by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@Godsend @judgedread Accurate.
(DIR) Post #B5IJ866baKgEdFNdEe by w0rm@dsmc.space
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@khayyam @p @judgedread Say that Elon's Grok outshines the 2nd coming right now or I'm gonna block you!!
(DIR) Post #B5IJPwi5FvpEhlQBCi by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @w0rm @Godsend I had to use windows server at one point in life.makes you want to set shit on fire
(DIR) Post #B5IJRelGxXMLcLjDtI by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@ins0mniak @Godsend @w0rm I have a Server 2k3 image. I use it for Civ2.
(DIR) Post #B5IKqkWQmK4ag4JcSu by w0rm@dsmc.space
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@ins0mniak @Godsend @p :torbo: host on Azure, by choice.
(DIR) Post #B5IKqkpvbpfXeXRBr6 by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@w0rm @Godsend @p I still can't get over that dumb mother fucker.seriouslybuh buh buh why the ban us? ffs what a retard lol
(DIR) Post #B5IKql7IZFZ0WPZ3vk by w0rm@dsmc.space
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@ins0mniak @Godsend @p I'm starting a rumor that torbo was just federal front to introduce Bopesoxer and wasn't needed once he had blerboma commit they stopped calling torbo and he goes full-time email spam hoping for the last juice in the rind.
(DIR) Post #B5IKqlQ5ROanSgM4DQ by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
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@w0rm @Godsend @ins0mniak @p that rumor? albert einstein
(DIR) Post #B5IL1PtfnoQ3tZH0xk by Godsend@annihilation.social
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@ins0mniak For his crimes, it is necessary to erase his profit center. You and others have the talent to do this. A word to the wise is enough. @w0rm @p
(DIR) Post #B5IL1Q8YuSKSdkEuAa by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@Godsend @p @w0rm708-2583374316.gif
(DIR) Post #B5IL1QIUJYGj8Wspdo by Godsend@annihilation.social
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@ins0mniak There's a dude who needs to be jailed with a 1000 year sentence without parole. My gosh. @w0rm @p
(DIR) Post #B5IL1QQHqYVVWiX3nU by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@Godsend @p @w0rm Ive been saying that since the 90s.have some fun antique gifs3D-XLTL.GIFANGRY.GIFBILLDEVL.GIFBILLANIM.GIF
(DIR) Post #B5IYfDPivrOQAQZYmG by Godsend@annihilation.social
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@p I don't think our IT marketplaces are that different, so your opinion surprises me. There are tons of data Engineers, data Scientists, machine learning engineers out there who are subpar programmers or have near-zero networking knowledge. You and others like you are the minority. I am just not seeing that competence in the marketplace whatsoever except for the startups that compensate you with equity only. To use a WoW analogy, most of the 20s to mid-30s "kids" out there who are paid at the higher end in the "IT" marketplace are not warriors(sysadmins), rogues(db admins), or mages(coders), but hybrids that don't do any one thing well: ethical hackers, data engineers, data scientists (paladins, shamans, druids).Universities are graduating kids with computer science degrees that have outdated knowledge and they haven't found a way to block the current generation of kids from NOT using ChatGPT on their assignments, thereby hardening core IT skills. As GenAI progresses, the "I learned to code to get a job" crowd will shrink and the "I'm the next Steve Wozniak" crowd will leverage GenAI like mathematicians leveraged the TI-83 and will take Computing to the next level. Probably creating a bunch of new fuzzy fluffy hybrids, but hey...someone needs to be able to talk to the C-Suite to let the Wozzes of the world do the genius work.@ins0mniak
(DIR) Post #B5IYfEOhHAALDX6Foe by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@Godsend @ins0mniak > There are tons of data Engineers, data Scientists, machine learning engineers out there who are subpar programmers or have near-zero networking knowledge.I am well aware that there are vast numbers of incompetent dipshits, yes. I have done real work in the world.> will leverage GenAI like mathematicians leveraged the TI-83 and will take Computing to the next levelPeople that can't understand architecture will use machines that cannot produce novel algorithms will produce the next level of computing. This reminds me of something..."Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?"Ain't holding my breath.> To use a WoW analogyAs noted many times, I have not ever played an MMO; the analogy is complete lost on me.> most of the 20s to mid-30s "kids" out thereThis does not match my experience.> data engineers, data scientistsThese aren't tasks you give to someone that isn't good at anything. I've got no idea what your WoW analogy was supposed to convey.
(DIR) Post #B5IZwHsbgJBAtXmqMi by Godsend@annihilation.social
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@p good grief why? The only WIndows machines in my life right now are clients' computers and a windows 11 VM on Parallels. @w0rm @ins0mniak
(DIR) Post #B5IZwI8uhgDti7Prma by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@Godsend @ins0mniak @w0rm There were two sentences and one of them explained the other one.
(DIR) Post #B5Ia0uRwDnNRfwW68u by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@Godsend @ins0mniak @w0rm > For his crimes, it is necessary to erase his profit center.Seems prudent to aim higher.
(DIR) Post #B5IaAc5PLp3LcObbbU by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@w0rm @Godsend @p I would like to help with this rumor.His new grift are these christian nationalists trying to start their own parallel city state thing in like kentucky haha
(DIR) Post #B5IaDpsCY1KFFLxsmm by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@ins0mniak @Godsend @w0rm I'm havin' Netscape flashbacks!
(DIR) Post #B5IaKTHaw8qZD80SvY by Godsend@annihilation.social
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@ins0mniak I should have listened. I only saw the Linux light in 2018, where I swore of Microsoft and .NET contracts forever (except Azure, too much work there for me to ignore). @w0rm @p
(DIR) Post #B5IaKTVm5QBnv6dn1s by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@Godsend @p @w0rm I never fully installed it till like 2002 ish maybe....dont exactly remember.But Earthlink isp used to give out shell accounts back when, which was badass for them to do. But that was the path to all thing *nix for me. Im pretty nostalgic for it tbh
(DIR) Post #B5IbgK4ZxYaeyItywS by rusty_shackleford@colorlessgreenvoid.com
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@judgedread Yeah i bet its easy to pump out a ton of code when you dont really know what it does or how it works. As someone who does understand it, i want to make sure its doing what i want, is secure, and is going to be maintainable.
(DIR) Post #B5IbgKhvbG48wLJPH6 by judgedread@poa.st
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Their only question is, 'Can we make money from it?'
(DIR) Post #B5IbgKwSjDgxfQ70vg by rusty_shackleford@colorlessgreenvoid.com
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@judgedread I understand that all too well. We desparately need better gov regulation around software. Its long overdue. The fines should be scary, not the cost of doing business
(DIR) Post #B5IbgL4yDaUu5o5oBs by judgedread@poa.st
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If you want to kill the industry that's a great idea.
(DIR) Post #B5IbgLD7jH1GV5uJto by rusty_shackleford@colorlessgreenvoid.com
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@judgedread The industry wouldnt be killed you retard lol
(DIR) Post #B5IbgLKvGHG2tHYY3U by judgedread@poa.st
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Everyone who names themselves after the cuckold Rusty Shackleford is a useless turd.
(DIR) Post #B5IbgLTmjKLZKlhcrw by rusty_shackleford@colorlessgreenvoid.com
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@judgedread Says the boot licking faggot whos proud of being cucked by corporate america.
(DIR) Post #B5IcOrZCn6ctapSvVA by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @Godsend @w0rmScreenshot 2026-04-14 at 6.56.27 PM.pngNETSCAP.GIFNETSCAPELOGO.GIF
(DIR) Post #B5IcOrkC8FPu8ubhdA by mrsaturday@shitposter.world
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@ins0mniak @Godsend @w0rm @p We have to go back
(DIR) Post #B5If1YKQS7K58183OK by w0rm@dsmc.space
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@mrsaturday @Godsend @ins0mniak @p There's no going back, and there's no peaceful solution. Death to all normies.
(DIR) Post #B5If1YdvHcv26UFcmW by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@w0rm @mrsaturday @Godsend @ptenor-1873211159.gif
(DIR) Post #B5IhvknnSj1XwKnGEa by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @Godsend6akuln.gif
(DIR) Post #B5Ihxz9t3agv2oBqpE by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@ins0mniak @Godsend Tiddy lady.
(DIR) Post #B5JGsYhRV1bfvp27fs by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@ins0mniak @Godsend @w0rm #49 was a real banger:phrack49.txt
(DIR) Post #B5JGwYIAxMkjpH7Riq by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@mrsaturday @ins0mniak @Godsend @w0rm Everyone says that and then when I sit in the Plan 9 box and use mothra, they call me crazy. :tinfoil:
(DIR) Post #B5JGx5f0tTd3Jf3eOu by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@mrsaturday @Godsend @p @w0rmWINSUCKS.GIF
(DIR) Post #B5JH2Ezbcme3hu96Ho by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@w0rm @mrsaturday @Godsend @ins0mniakgas_the_normies.png
(DIR) Post #B5JHCWZ598W76OdvWK by w0rm@dsmc.space
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@ins0mniak @Godsend @p @mrsaturday Immanentize the eschaton. GTNAWN.
(DIR) Post #B5JHCXzhpdPLXG6heq by w0rm@dsmc.space
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@ins0mniak @Godsend @mrsaturday @p What's getting a laughing is I'm writing this while restocking @p ammunition.
(DIR) Post #B5JHGKdrPwZBHYh4jY by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@w0rm @ins0mniak @Godsend @mrsaturday Oops!eschatron_9000.jpg
(DIR) Post #B5JHIgkeBakIQszYa8 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@w0rm @Godsend @ins0mniak @mrsaturday Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!
(DIR) Post #B5JHJAx5tsWm6B2v9E by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@w0rm @Godsend @mrsaturday @pangry-cat-sassy-cat-4078291785.gif
(DIR) Post #B5JHJWShvXIEoIzxq4 by w0rm@dsmc.space
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@ins0mniak @Godsend @p @mrsaturday It's a cult thing. :)
(DIR) Post #B5JHJXYPrnSCCIg2NM by w0rm@dsmc.space
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@ins0mniak @Godsend @mrsaturday @p I hope @graf is able to visit this weekend; got some thousands of rounds but I need to get more out of storage.
(DIR) Post #B5JIISTNNCeK6QMqOm by Godsend@annihilation.social
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@p As for WoW, think D&D.Your basic RPG adventuring classes are warrior, rogue, mage… everything is derived from those (e.g. healer magic priest is essentially a mage with healing magic, a ranger is a rogue that does non-magic damage and distance… hopefully you get that much), then the idea is that the fancy new hybridized classes can do more than one thing but no one thing well.The 'new computing science professions' are a disaster because - whereas a CEO allegedly has enough intelligence to know that a cardiologist is probably not the best for, say, brain surgery, the same typical CEO has this weird expectation that a "Data Scientist" can optimize queries in a SQL database, and is a master at data engineering and storage policies. In reality, Data Scientists get degrees and certificates in some business statistics and data dashboarding/presentation, but charge 6 figures for that super niche skill (and said skill is "niche" because it was a profession invented like 5-10 years ago only because statisticians and accountants back then knew next to no SQL and front-end presentation technologies… no longer the case). Many "hybridized" IT professions are in fact one-or-two-trick pony professions.The big problem is that they don't have the fundamentals of computing science down, when everyone expects them to in small to medium-sized businesses. I mean, I expect a cardiologist to be able to deliver a baby or perform CPR or properly bandage someone (because that is basic medical school stuff before medical specialization of cardiology) but your average data engineering guy/gal cannot reconfigure a Cisco Switch or a Fortigate Firewall, or won't even try. The 'IT' industry incentivizes pushing people straight to specialization without covering IT basics.When I was growing up, basic IT had 4 cornerstones that you needed proficiency in before anyone hired you: programming, databases, networking, OS/commandline.Now? e.g. Scrum Master - 6 figures, no commandline skill.e.g. Project Manager - 6 figures, no commandline skille.g. DevSecOps Engineer - 6 figures, makes the assembly line for coders, doesn't know object-oriented programming.e.g. MLOps Engineer - 6 figures, understands ML Flow and CI/CD, barely understands backpropagation and gradient descent.e.g. React / React Native Developer - 6 figures, can't optimize SQL queries if front-end latency is already at a minimum.P.S. I don't really keep track of whether one has played WoW. That's like keeping track of whether one has played Mario Kart or read Harry Potter. There are too few outliers to keep track of that.@ins0mniak
(DIR) Post #B5JIISyZVDbRfAxl1U by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@Godsend @ins0mniak > As for WoW, think D&D.I am old as shit and have spent my entire life not knowing about elves and I am not gonna start now.> weird expectation that a "Data Scientist" can optimize queries in a SQL databaseData scientists do statistics, specializing in large datasets. Data engineers are the ones that have to turn that into workable code.> The big problem is that they don't have the fundamentals of computing science down, when everyone expects them to in small to medium-sized businesses. Small shops, everyone's gotta do everything. A hacker reads the research papers and Phrack, reverses the firmware and architects distributed systems. Hacking is hacking. Hacks is hacks.> e.g. Scrum Master - 6 figures, no commandline skill.This is a makework job.> e.g. Project Manager - 6 figures, no commandline skillThis is the guy that talks to the coders and stops them from having to talk to the normies.> doesn't know object-oriented programming.OO is a special case (a degenerate case) of CSP. Everyone understands message-passing architecture if you explain it to them and everyone that can hack worth a damn structures their code that way the first time they see it. Devops guys know how to type `|` in the shell.> I don't really keep track of whether one has played WoW. That's like keeping track of whether one has played Mario Kart or read Harry Potter. There are too few outliers to keep track of that.I must have been too busy being awesome to know whether Harry Potter played enough World of Warcraft to understand the finer points of the class system.
(DIR) Post #B5JIJQVaA846IdrSAS by Godsend@annihilation.social
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@ins0mniak *Checks out thumbnail* She looks good from far.*Clicks thumbnail and sees her face* Edit: She looks far from good.@p
(DIR) Post #B5JIMUYfYtQfjElbMG by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@w0rm @Godsend @graf @ins0mniak @mrsaturday It's pahty time.
(DIR) Post #B5JIS2NZFAwo4QDaoS by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@Godsend @p I think shes nice. lol
(DIR) Post #B5JItd7QkpgZpqpMhs by Godsend@annihilation.social
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@ins0mniak You're a good man. You really see past the outside of her face, because you realize it's the inside of her dress that counts. @p
(DIR) Post #B5JItdNNnWRidKI6ZU by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@Godsend @p yeah man Im like uh...all about whats important or whatever.
(DIR) Post #B5JJihsio2hDNLIpyC by pista@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @ins0mniak @Godsend @w0rm You have a four-corner head but you only have a one-corner face. You're only a fourth of who you think you are.
(DIR) Post #B5JJkd0zs31UrT5ctE by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@pista @Godsend @ins0mniak @w0rm :generay: I have a four-corner Netscape Navigator.
(DIR) Post #B5JOIN4A4gjb3iunzM by mrsaturday@shitposter.world
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@p @Godsend @w0rm @ins0mniak You are (and that's a good thing)
(DIR) Post #B5KeWBeH79Aa7wNQEi by dorkvalized@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @Godsend @ins0mniak > > As for WoW, think D&D.> …spent my entire life not knowing about elves and I am not gonna start now.And don’t listen to anyone! I tried it once and my ass burned quickly, pic related. 2025-10-16 05:24:22.jpg
(DIR) Post #B5Kedhw7T2KgIEJFkO by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@dorkvalized @Godsend @ins0mniak I don't know what that image depicts but I do like this image:shitty-adventuresb.gif
(DIR) Post #B5KeqZSyGpArmuoF6W by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @pista @Godsend @w0rmskullfuck.gif
(DIR) Post #B5Kg47V395zJ3lo2e8 by Godsend@annihilation.social
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@ins0mniak It says 'Mircosoft', why? @w0rm @p @pista
(DIR) Post #B5Kg47isJh2xkeH5CC by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@Godsend @p @pista @w0rm its from 1996 man, just roll with it ha
(DIR) Post #B5KgOwPLa3W2jw4DUe by judgedread@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p 'Analyzing log files' - my god it's full of bots.
(DIR) Post #B5KgQYmAPlBi1fVqwi by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread This is accurate.
(DIR) Post #B5KgR2sEVlrjNAa7ZA by judgedread@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p You may not be interested in Clockwork Elves but Clockwork Elves are interested in you.
(DIR) Post #B5KgSyF2hjopaNAW8m by ins0mniak@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @dorkvalized @Godsend__tachikoma_ghost_in_the_shell_drawn_by_omao__sample-cb8cfd011d08c982257552d9a72c71c6-3690079020.jpg
(DIR) Post #B5KgVy1fxje1mmLT84 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread :alexjonesshock:
(DIR) Post #B5KgYHySladYEVww76 by judgedread@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p If Microsoft absorbs OpenAI you'll get all the clout points. I've seen no one else predict that, they're all focused on Elon vs. Altman and Altman vs. his former top employees (Dario at Anthropic) and purged board members.
(DIR) Post #B5KhFrdI45BLHIpBFA by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread > If Microsoft absorbs OpenAI you'll get all the clout points.I gotta figure out how to monetize that, ha.> I've seen no one else predict thatThat is weird. It seems pretty obvious to me given MSFT openly disparaging OpenAI, OpenAI being way, way in the hole to MSFT ($250 b-b-billion is a lot of money), MSFT already owning 27%, and MSFT's heavy investment in their own "AI" offerings falling flat, and the things that happen to literally every company that becomes a Microsoft Partner (poor Sega, poor Nokia). They have no reason to shit on a company that they own 27% of unless they want to nudge the valuation to see if it's a sandbag or a souffle, investors get paid similar amounts in the event of an acquisition versus an IPO but Altman and the other employees would get golden handcuffs, so Altman can rally the troops internally. The only thing that stops MSFT acquiring them is them getting a contract worth $250b (unlikely) or MSFT fucking up (this can happen).
(DIR) Post #B5KlKjp4veCkJwuyGm by r000t@ligma.pro
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@pI'd say it's more like a car designer who makes cars in CAD having difficulty replacing a timing chain or not knowing what OBD-2 even is.Or a mechanic trying to model out an interior The difference between a programmer and a sysadmin is that a programmer could be very familiar with and very good at customizing and optimizing their own computer, to their own standards, with their own constraints. A sysadmin manages many machines, that are not his own, to be used by other, very stupid and angry people. They may also manage the networking. They may *also* manage the physical copper or fiber runs creating that network. The programmer may have to deal with some dumb stupid boomer end user having trouble with this one piece of software they *also* have complete control over.The programmer will *not* have to deal with that same dumb stupid boomer end user saying the network is down when in reality he's got his laptop in airplane mode. Sysadmins can also write programs, yes, but you'll find they're often very narrow-scoped, very small scripts, sometimes meant to only be used literally one time and then thrown away. Docker exists because programmers aren't sysadmins and this angers both parties to no end. @Godsend @ins0mniak
(DIR) Post #B5KmVJx9YIU7E7Ixc0 by r000t@ligma.pro
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@judgedread@p
(DIR) Post #B5KmlvSFtDmGAYlpS4 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@r000t @Godsend @ins0mniak > I'd say it's more like a car designer who makes cars in CAD having difficulty replacing a timing chain or not knowing what OBD-2 even is.Everything is logistics: you cannot design a system very well if you try to design it in isolation and you don't understand the deployment.> They may *also* manage the physical copper or fiber runs creating that network. Well, that's netops, right, and I think these are all related and everyone that knows Scheme but doesn't know assembly is a dingus, same goes for copper, same goes for RF, same goes for fiber, same goes for having a mental map of the backbone and an idea how BGP works and how your disk spins and then you watch someone click and you can see the request work its way up and down the backbone to the last mile to the Cisco gear to the F5 to the cable to the API server to the memory allocations the OS is doing and the iops Postgres is waiting for. It's not like I've got no gaps in my knowledge but, you know, a mother fucker gits dead before he's done gitting gud.> Sysadmins can also write programs, yes, but you'll find they're often very narrow-scoped, very small scripts, sometimes meant to only be used literally one time and then thrown away. Yes; I am old and I know this, thus the example being logfile analysis. The point is that the sysadmin can automate the machine by speaking the machine's language to it or he should quit his job.> Docker exists because programmers aren't sysadminsDocker exists because Codecamp dipshits don't know how their box works.
(DIR) Post #B5KnHFIq929GhjIjOS by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@r000t @judgedread Counterpoint:dwarfelves.png
(DIR) Post #B5KtM6RD8Cv0Nnupoe by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @r000t @judgedread This is usually how it goes. The party "elf" is forced by the other dwarves to dress and act like a dwarf, and help in total elf death planning. (TED).
(DIR) Post #B5KtT3ZcBCjXWgA8Fk by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@SilverDeth @judgedread @r000t Well, you know what happens when you let too many elves into the party:dungeons_and_gay_dragons.png
(DIR) Post #B5KtTYfiYZ2DyaFwZM by VaxxSabbath@detroitriotcity.com
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@SilverDeth @judgedread @p @r000t “Draken Rockhammer Forced Me Dwarf”, by Chuck Tingle of the Elflands
(DIR) Post #B5KtlQjwmklwaYkxzU by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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@VaxxSabbath @p @r000t 10000 points for the Notable HUGO AWARD winning author Chuck Tingle......Teddy Spaghetti only ever did two good things in his life. Of those two things was making sure "Space Raptor Butt Invasion" won a Hugo.
(DIR) Post #B5KtqLN8AekNO7QYGu by pista@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @Godsend @ins0mniak @w0rmIMG_5972.gif
(DIR) Post #B5Ku3DVYije8lLVYCO by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@pista @Godsend @ins0mniak @w0rm Imagine not running compiz.cubic_linux.jpg
(DIR) Post #B5KvaD6jKXWL1zBtEe by pista@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @Godsend @ins0mniak @w0rm Bitches don’t know about my four corner harmonic web browserIMG_5973.gif
(DIR) Post #B5Kvr6pxteoUVTPIbQ by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @judgedread @r000t @Trevor GoochildSometimes the DM just has to sit back and let the idiots... ahem... "players" retard themselves to death."...are you SURE you're going to chase the wounded Very Old Green Dragon into its underwater lair?""WEEEEEEEEE TREASURE!!!!! LEROYYYY JEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKINNNNSSSSSSSS!!!!!!"/e pulls out his "killing dice.""Just a heads up guys, bring some fresh character sheets next week."
(DIR) Post #B5KwqLlJ1MCISZQgzo by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@SilverDeth @Trevor @judgedread @r000t Had a friend that was running some split game, like, two parties. The first party decided to spread a rumor in the town about the "Head of Vecna" and they dumped a dried head in the cave outside town. You know how the Hand of Vecna works, right? (I don't know if people know this. I didn't, but I wouldn't be expected to, so I don't know if I'm explaining that Luigi is Mario's brother.) You cut off your hand and attach Vecna's hand and then you get some sort of (lich?) powers.Allegedly, they found the head and there were two characters dead as a result of the Head of Vecna. The first one was "Hell yeah, chop off my head and put the Head of Vecna on!" And the head didn't automatically attach or come to life and the character's body just sort of stayed dead because they chopped the head off. So you'd think there'd be a "fool me once" effect, but "fool me once" is often counteracted by "Everyone stand back: I know karate!" So another guy--everyone stand back, he knows karate--said "No, you're doing it wrong: you have to cut off your *own* head and also you have to attach it before your body dies." and sat in a stone chair with "Vecna's" head and tried to Ruby Goldberg it such that the head would land right on the neck stump. It worked flawlessly: he cut off his head, then the random dried head that had nothing to do with Vecna landed in place and of course, immediately, his body slumped off the chair and the head rolled across the floor. The rest of the party decided not to attempt it.
(DIR) Post #B5KwvXU4rjk8GNqTqa by dcc@annihilation.social
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@p @Godsend @w0rm @ins0mniak @pista >not running dwm :suckless:
(DIR) Post #B5KwxopvJxzuey9PyS by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@dcc @Godsend @ins0mniak @pista @w0rm I'm actually running ratpoison.
(DIR) Post #B5Kx2u7t56XCVtyiCu by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@vignedox He did say "age of eternal darkness" so I don't know that you can just rewrite it like that. Only fools fight in a burning building.
(DIR) Post #B5L1SgSguKpTToG0DQ by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@vignedox I think it's more a question of trying to rewrite the ending. That was how the story went, it's what happened: they played a game where they ignored the apocalypse for the sake of injecting $current_year politics into a medieval fantasy game. DM humored them and everyone had fun and then the rug-pull was a hilarious punchline because the person that tries to cram $current_year politics into a game and expects everyone else to humor them is a terrible person. (Incidentally, state recognition of marriage is a 20th-century thing, not a 10th-century thing, and anyone trying to cram $current_year politics into a game should go argue on Twitter, because Twitter is a political MMO game.)> the DM introduces a win condition that the players don't care forOne player. DM decided not to fight it.
(DIR) Post #B5L6c9DHsYTr1oNsbg by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@vignedox Sure; this is what the guy said happened, so I just take the story as it is. It's an internet story anyway, you know?
(DIR) Post #B5L6cgQYOFhU2VqRMm by pwm@darkdork.dev
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@p @Godsend @w0rm @ins0mniak @pista now inspired to create six sided virtual desktop window manager. It would ball so incredibly hard
(DIR) Post #B5L6zR2Dmjd0xeJQps by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@pwm @Godsend @ins0mniak @pista @w0rm Well, I did use compiz for a little while and the novelty wears off in under 10 minutes, but I started thinking about it as, like...what if you introduced perspective and the entire thing is visible at all times but it scales exponentially as you get closer to the edges, so you have maybe the middle 2/3 or 3/4 dedicated to the main window and then the outer sides are extremely squashed remainders.I just keep getting fascinated by the Canon Cat as a concept.
(DIR) Post #B5L7070ZjFGd8hri6K by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @Trevor @judgedread @r000t LMFAO
(DIR) Post #B5MTsKiZMhetRifA00 by dorkvalized@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @Godsend @ins0mniak “Having one’s ass on fire” is an euphemism for getting into a bad situation. Like, an infuriatingly bad situation. ⧸That⧸ you probably know. The image was a joke on that, there I assaulted a fortress where mobs throw torches. When they set you on fire, your torso is engulfed in flames, but you can notice, that when it dies out, it remains around your butt. One can even see the “torched” effect among status icons in the upper right corner, near the south-west end of the minimap. By the way, this screenshot I made soloing WoW on my own TrinityCore-based server. It’s almost completely open-source implementation (you need the WoW client files to allow the server to build pathing graphs in the server’s own format, and otherwise the code is open). The client is the regular v3.3.5a. There’s a guide how to compile and set it up.Black Rock Shooter Dawn Fall S01E02-[1080p][BDRIP][x265.FLAC] 00:09:04.210.jpg
(DIR) Post #B5MU2KZ6msU3rv0MKW by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@dorkvalized @Godsend @ins0mniak Oh, yeah, I helped my friend hack on the server when it was very early days, he wanted help testing and the server was all in C++ at the time. I don't know if it's the same server, but that was basically the situation.
(DIR) Post #B5MV74Xlsm8pa4CikC by dorkvalized@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @Godsend @ins0mniak This image reminds me of a conversation, that I’ve overheard in a GW2 PvP lobby, while solving a puzzle there. It was long, and it touched the subjects like “what it costs to be on top” and “why are we here?”, quite funny at times, I even saved screenshots. They’re still lying somewhere. Black Rock Shooter Dawn Fall S01E08-[1080p][BDRIP][x265.FLAC] 0:42.58–0:49.38.webm
(DIR) Post #B5MV9pJqwXc5EQ0WI4 by dorkvalized@fsebugoutzone.org
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@pwm @p @Godsend @ins0mniak @pista @w0rm DO IT.… and ping me back, when you’re going into icosahedric shapes.shot0052.png
(DIR) Post #B5MVEUyxyzDdbcSvzs by dorkvalized@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @SilverDeth @Trevor @judgedread @r000t1776337576.jpg
(DIR) Post #B5MVHq463PJnrTSSES by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@dorkvalized @SilverDeth @Trevor @judgedread @r000t HFS
(DIR) Post #B5N6SsYwnxo16512Tg by dorkvalized@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p @Godsend @ins0mniak Depending on how long ago that was, that might or might not be TriCore. TriCore is a fork of MANGOS, which began circa 2005. MANGOS in its turn is loosely related to earlier StormCraft and other similar programs, which worked as a compatibility layer between leaked alpha server and client programs. __nanashi_mumei_and_hooman_hololive_and_1_more_drawn_by_tablicoart__29b9090dfb3688f88a45b211408d241d.jpg
(DIR) Post #B5PRiEJehAg4GFwaYK by judgedread@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p As far as the typical AI stonk shiller is concerned Sega and Nokia might as well be Byzantine emperors.Microsoft is suffering from relative decline, so grabbling OpenAI makes sense in the same way Rupert Murdoch hoovering up MySpace made sense.
(DIR) Post #B5PSSES6WM2o0Lpbg8 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread > As far as the typical AI stonk shiller is concerned Sega and Nokia might as well be Byzantine emperors.Well, yeah, but I mean people that think about things rather than people that try to sell you on something.> Microsoft is suffering from relative decline, so grabbling OpenAI makes sense in the same way Rupert Murdoch hoovering up MySpace made sense. Yeah, I mean, they ate Hotmail because they were bad at email. (Thus making Microsoft, for a time, the company with the world's largest FreeBSD deployment, in the midst of their "Everything that has to do with Unix or open-source software is terrible shit that sucks" era.) It's like Google (Youtube, GMail, Google Maps, all of it is acquisitions), Microsoft is a dead thing eating the living.When I was at Discovery, I was working on a thing that ended up never launching because by the time I joined the project, there were more VPs giving "input" (directives) on demo day than there were coders. (2 ops, 2 backend devs, 1 frontend dev, 1 mobile dev, and like ten VPs. This is why "We're structuring it like a startup inside a big company" never works: either it gains some traction internally and then managers from other departments want to affix their name to it, or it doesn't and its budget gets cut. I should have stuck around: I resigned two weeks before they scrapped the project and laid everyone off but gave them two months' severance.) Big companies completely lose the ability to ship interesting things. Thiel's "Zero to One" book had a lot of really interesting insights but "monopolies are required for innovation because they are the only ones funding R&D" was not one of them.
(DIR) Post #B5TZEasHppsdnsMTgG by judgedread@fsebugoutzone.org
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@p 'Microsoft is a dead thing eating the living.'MS-DOS was an acquisition.Always-Has-Been.jpg
(DIR) Post #B5Ta5bNQhLH8i2CkQy by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread I am an owner of a RadioShack TRS-80 Model 100, which Bill Gates described by Billiam "Bill 'the Walking Abortion Clinic' Gates" Gates as having sentimental value to him, being the last machine for which he wrote "most of the software", as he says it. (It appeared in the Connie Chung interview when he jumped the fence.) I am also possibly (reflectoporn edition but without the "porn" part, just my reflection; I wanted to make an "ebay.com 00s exhibitionism" joke, like do you remember when teh Register was all "don't buy teakettles from Ebay, people just use that to show you their dicks"? Hilarious.) the first person to have posted to fedi using it. I FUCKIN' LOVE COMPUTERSfedi3.jpeg
(DIR) Post #B5TaGDIYYuLjDSz9Bw by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread Sorry Dredd, I'm hammered because I had some nicotine a couple days ago and now am havin' "the shakes" so I'm drunk. I am an addict! It's hilarious.
(DIR) Post #B5TbYj4JHP72usiG36 by ceo_of_monoeye_dating@tsundere.love
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@p @judgedread Hey Pete, I saw you throwing Dread on my feed so I figured that:1) You should remind Dread to block me on his FSE account if he hasn't already :shiina_kek: 2) Let him know that Epstein probably has his hands in US nuclear weapons; https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01998277.pdf (LANL is where a lot of that research was originally done and this isn't secret, so it's safe to assume it's probably still done there).Dread is a political person so he should be aware of that, regardless of any animosity that exists between me and him. Knowing this probably has implications that he will care about.
(DIR) Post #B5TbYjUBjBoSD8ovNw by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@ceo_of_monoeye_dating @judgedread You said all that shit like I can read that shit while drunk.I cannot.L+Ratioplus my dickPlus Archer is fucking hilariousDESPITE THE NEW YORK SITUATION HAPPENING TO ITfor most of the seasons
(DIR) Post #B5TbjXZKNM1gR6NUPo by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@ceo_of_monoeye_dating @judgedread will you drive me to where i can get smokesBasically I started drinking whiskey because I had some nicotine a couple of days ago and today I got THE SHAKES and used whiskey to smooth it out. But now I wish I'd just gone into town to buy some smokes.
(DIR) Post #B5Tbk0NdFutznE83iC by ceo_of_monoeye_dating@tsundere.love
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@p @judgedread That second bit is something he probably wouldn't know because he blocks fucking everyone. I'm doing my best to spread that information because it matters a lot.
(DIR) Post #B5TbmVzah2McPq53tg by sicp@freebeerextremist.com
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@p @judgedread P FUQQIN' #DOXXED
(DIR) Post #B5TbpsRRgSEcuSiFBw by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@sicp @judgedread I spent a bunch of time explaining that I am beautiful to a room full of people that did not challenge me because I am too hammered to listen to reason.
(DIR) Post #B5TbqOYeHD0iW4KRrU by sampler@freebeerextremist.com
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@p @judgedread What kind of nicotine?
(DIR) Post #B5Tbrm7KAYFlsECqDA by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@sampler @judgedread The kind that comes out of cigarettes?
(DIR) Post #B5Tc7LmpphqOqQ37OC by ceo_of_monoeye_dating@tsundere.love
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@p @judgedread Well, enjoy your alcohol then. :koronebless:
(DIR) Post #B5TcB6buCSXuvzjBCa by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@ceo_of_monoeye_dating @judgedread CEO of Monoeye Dating, I have never enjoyed anything in my life. I am a *man*. Have you never seen "Fear of a Black Hat"?
(DIR) Post #B5TcC2Z4j8kEg0qjqK by ceo_of_monoeye_dating@tsundere.love
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@p @judgedread I can't drive you anywhere, I'm not in Californialand.
(DIR) Post #B5TcDil3L67XpHFlx2 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@ceo_of_monoeye_dating @judgedread NEITHER AM II AM IN A SECRET UNDISCLOSED LOCATION
(DIR) Post #B5TcTaanSwan8Q1TZw by mint@ryona.agency
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@p @judgedread Keep that up and you'll end up like pernia. We all know what *he* had to do for smokes.
(DIR) Post #B5TcfSeonJ7y01Z51s by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@mint @judgedread It's okay, if someone asks me to blow him for Newports, I will just fight him instead. (Anyone that wants *me* to blow him is probably really easy to beat up. prenis is prolly a softboi chunky twink. Or whatever youc all a twink that is chubby. Can winks be chubby or is that something else? I will never know the truth about this: it will change by the time I discover the truth.)
(DIR) Post #B5TeOOWD83fk9GWp5U by mint@ryona.agency
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@p @judgedread Pernia looks and acts like this.pernia.jpg
(DIR) Post #B5TeQrqN4Nhzg68aFk by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@mint @judgedread Thisd is excatly how I pectured pernrnieria but this guy is not jacking off
(DIR) Post #B5TeXwgHU1U2hvnDyS by sicp@freebeerextremist.com
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@mint @judgedread @p isn't that the gamer leg guy
(DIR) Post #B5TeYXHlO8rAEbbfOa by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@sicp @mint @judgedread that is pernia
(DIR) Post #B5TeZsZLk3F0XBTNpY by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@sicp @judgedread @mint 99
(DIR) Post #B5TiiAI48cyXd3awyW by moth_ball@shitposter.world
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@p @judgedread @mint are you sure about that
(DIR) Post #B5TlHMJ3eeLmwJy6oy by mrsaturday@shitposter.world
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@mint @judgedread @p Truly the physiognomy of a philosopher king
(DIR) Post #B5UZ2dOKqUxZICbpq4 by sicp@freebeerextremist.com
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@p @judgedread @mint i'm getting another rockstar fuck it i'll be back in 5 minuteswhats your favourite flavour
(DIR) Post #B5UZ9v0BliDPwCmvxI by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@sicp @judgedread @mint My favorite? It was the acai one that they don't make any more: :rockstarxdurance:. The strawberry lemonade one is really good.
(DIR) Post #B5UZjmii2PhAg1iNTk by ceo_of_monoeye_dating@tsundere.love
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@p @judgedread I don't watch hollywood movies because I am not a homosexual.
(DIR) Post #B5UZlH8mQ9DLJWcUt6 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@ceo_of_monoeye_dating @judgedread This is not that kind of movie.
(DIR) Post #B5UZmE2nQ2U603H3Fg by pernia@cum.salon
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@mint @judgedread @p not "like". thats my doxx
(DIR) Post #B5UZnrQMUSLaQO4nVQ by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@moth_ball @judgedread @mint That's a good point.
(DIR) Post #B5UaVjoAATYvXs8DEe by sand@kitty.haus
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very @p of youRE: https://fsebugoutzone.org/objects/0183e456-6063-4c06-b49d-667726a6c3e3
(DIR) Post #B5UaWWKlkYAI2tkviq by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@sand Everything I do!
(DIR) Post #B5Uenn5B8FDIjJxDKy by Mamako@tsundere.love
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@ceo_of_monoeye_dating @p @judgedread
(DIR) Post #B5Uf3tS3DiVH7GKZXs by mint@ryona.agency
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@p @sicp @judgedread There was only one taste sold here, and I don't even remember which one was it. Was in Fix Price (think Russian Dollar General) for a short while in 2021 then disappered.
(DIR) Post #B5UfCuJtMR7oPpoRw8 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@mint @judgedread @sicp Oh, shit, love to get caffeine from the dollar store. I ain't care how much money you have, those places are fun. All the shit that they're trying to get rid of, so you can get discontinued caffeine.
(DIR) Post #B5UfeqUlAswUf6DaL2 by Tony@clew.lol
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@p @sicp @judgedread @mint good will/dollar stores are totally underrated. I love good will in the rich suburbs because you get super nice stuff people just offload like brandname clothes and stuff (i'm not a brand guy but it's fun to get like a puma sweatshirt for $3)
(DIR) Post #B5UgDxpbtG9jYBiTa4 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@Tony @judgedread @mint @sicp Yeah, people dump some crazy shit. I used to hit the used book store by Cal Tech all the time, I think I grabbed about 20 books one day because they had "Numerical Recipes in C", "Hacker's Delight", etc., a bunch of really excellent old-school books, like some one from the CS department had died or something. (:pressf: for a real one if true.)
(DIR) Post #B5VnoNKJTFNJsuLYH2 by mint@ryona.agency
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@p @sicp @judgedread At least we got pic related now. Tabasco/pomegranate/cranberry taste, actually pretty good and easy to drink.Husky_1776753077332_KSYGJIP663.…
(DIR) Post #B5Vns9P1BMB3rGLc5w by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@mint @judgedread @sicp > Tabasco/pomegranate/cranberry tasteHoly shit. This is a baffling drink. Would.
(DIR) Post #B5VpaJPHRpIRa75lJY by colonelj@ryona.agency
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@mint @p @judgedread @sicp is it spicy?
(DIR) Post #B5VpaUlJEGSAncU0g4 by mint@ryona.agency
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@colonelj @judgedread @p @sicp Not really.
(DIR) Post #B5aqFQ5WU0hNxzFg0W by jae@dsmc.space
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@mint @judgedread @p costa-rican leper-tiddies are giving me the fear.
(DIR) Post #B7mHlcl2cev1g4dkRs by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@judgedread > also that this is the panopticon. There are no "can't use amassed LLM sockpuppets to manufacture consent or to conduct massive real-time surveillance campaigns" restrictions against the government (and even when there are restrictions like that, the 2007 warrantless wiretapping and PRISM and the Biden Twitter/Facebook thing demonstrate that the government doesn't really care when there are restrictions) and you can see that the PRC and US are aggressively pouring money into this while governments that don't have much fear of uprisings are making minimal investments. (The room full of Russkies posting at boomers on Facebook is probably going to be replaced with LLMs from Yandex, but Russia's been half-assing their influence campaigns last 20-ish years at least.) That's going to be a qualitative shift in government and that is bigger than clickbait journos getting the ax. I showed you, right, on consumer hardware, it'll do a passable job at summarizing my notifications. You look at the NSA's exabytes under the desert in Utah, you look at the https://www.top500.org/lists/top500/2025/11/ and the US, which had been slipping in the rankings, suddenly ate the top 10 again, China went from owning the top slot to #24. And where you saw only governments before, you see Microsoft and NVidia. (OpenAI has, at current revenue levels, an order of magnitude gap between their $250B commitment to minimum buy for Azure and their revenue of about $3-4B/month. Microsoft already owns 27% and will acquire them unless they get a big contract. They are talking Q4 IPO and they're discussing advertising; advertising will not make up the shortfall and is a dry-hump for businesses that have run out of ideas. But "persuasive reasoning based on natural language analysis" is, in the case of LLMs, dual-purpose: they are eyeing government contracts.)I have never been wrong about anything in my entire life: https://github.com/retflo/retflo> The complete protocol for political reasoning.> Every structural objection to cooperative governance, mapped and answered.> Argue less. Build more. > [...] > The same objections to cooperative governance have been recycled for centuries. "Human nature is selfish." "It can't scale." "Be realistic." The arguments don't change because they don't need to — repetition is the mechanism.> These aren't hard questions. They have structural answers. But those answers have never been organized in a way that connects them — where each response anticipates the next objection and routes to it.> retflo is that structure. A closed dialectical graph that maps the entire objection space, with every path answered and every connection typed. Not a chatbot. Not an app. A protocol — like TCP/IP is a protocol for data, retflo is a protocol for political reasoning.> [...]> [`AGENTS.md`](AGENTS.md) is the entry point. It contains the routing table that maps common objections to nodes, plus the engagement rules and delivery calibration.> > Each node has:> - **Position** — the substantive case> - **Objection handling** — a Move / Response / Concession table> - **Typed connections** — links to follow-up nodes across domains> > Nodes capture argument patterns, not instances. "China has a navy" and "Russia has nukes" route to the same node: external military threat.> > ### The chain in action> > ```mermaid> flowchart LR> A["'People are selfish'"] --> B["phil/nature"]> B --> C["Mutual aid is a<br>dominant survival strategy"]> C --> D["Selfishness under capitalism is<br>incentive-shaped behavior,<br>not nature revealed"]> D --> E["soc/cultural-reproduction"]> D --> F["phil/failure-modes"]> D --> G["auth/federation-vs-state"]> ```> > Objection in, structural response out, next move available. The graph is closed — follow any objection far enough and it routes back to territory the framework already covers.
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@judgedread > But "persuasive reasoning based on natural language analysis" is, in the case of LLMs, dual-purpose: they are eyeing government contracts.)I have never been wrong in my entire life, part 9,001, "Dread will get a kick out of this one" edition:israel_lobbying_chatbot.gif
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@BarelyEagle @judgedread He untags people to prevent hellthreads. Often, it works.