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(DIR) Post #B5CTfMHwGvMayIQ8fY by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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/e/ and Murena have been been promoting their products by misleading people about GrapheneOS for years. This has turned into an all out war on GrapheneOS by their company and supporters. We began regularly debunking their inaccurate claims and they try to frame it as aggression.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfPa81khDBZxCwC by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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They've created widespread misconceptions about the GrapheneOS project with inaccurate claims about the purpose of the project and what it provides to users. Many people incorrectly believe they aren't our target audience or that it wouldn't be a good fit for them due to this.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfQVYaEdK3gp4S0 by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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GrapheneOS is a privacy project which is intended to be usable by everyone. Usability and app compatibility are top priorities. Our userbase largely isn't highly technical. It's very easy to install and use. Devices can be purchased around the world with GrapheneOS preinstalled.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfReSKdLVbZzgxc by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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There's a comparison between operating systems based on the Android Open Source Project at https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm which provides a good overview of how GrapheneOS compares to other options. GrapheneOS is clearly a privacy project and is a major innovator in privacy protections.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfSgySkxEpgBDWa by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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GrapheneOS has an extremely high level of app compatibility. Nearly every Android app can be used on it which is crucial for broad usability. A tiny subset of Android apps banning using an alternate OS which we haven't yet worked around or convinced to allow it are incompatible.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfTfEqh9zqaNLSS by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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Our primary focus is improving the usability and out-of-the-box experience of GrapheneOS. We're continuing to add own privacy and security focused implementations of functionality normally provided by Google apps/services. The user-facing apps are being overhauled and replaced.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfUafPB66ihFCyG by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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We already shipped our own network-based location and geocoding implementations which we'll be making more discoverable. Our high quality local text-to-speech implementation is shipping soon and we'll also be providing a local speech-to-text implementation. A lot more is coming.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfVUg2vttWPRwH2 by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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/e/ bundles many privacy invasive apps/services. That includes adding a bunch of Google services not present in AOSP with privileged access. They implement speech-to-text by sending user data to OpenAI without informing users about it. We cannot do that.https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114880528716479708RT: https://grapheneos.social/users/GrapheneOS/statuses/114880528716479708
(DIR) Post #B5CTfWRWW8yKSuyvzs by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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Providing users with privacy requires ongoing work to address privacy vulnerabilities. GrapheneOS keeps up with the standard Android privacy patches. We also fix many Android privacy issues ourselves including VPN leaks. We're actively working on fixing remaining VPN issues.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfXLt8a3hHjLwqu by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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Privacy heavily depends on security. Security vulnerabilities are widely exploited to obtain user data. State actors aren't the only ones exploiting vulnerabilities and it's not at all limited to targeted attacks. Privacy depends on fixing both privacy and security flaws.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfYFBoyIK3FE73A by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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Commercially developed exploits are widely deployed against users both online and in the physical world. Broadly using exploits against many people at a protest, crossing a border or visiting a high traffic website is not a small scale targeted attack. This is not going away.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfZAyM8W0wSGG7E by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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/e/ and Murena have repeatedly repeated attacks by authoritarians on privacy technology by claiming without basis that GrapheneOS is mainly useful to criminals and used by criminals. They're claiming it about hardening against vulnerabilities in general:https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116353973732143171RT: https://grapheneos.social/users/GrapheneOS/statuses/116353973732143171
(DIR) Post #B5CTfa9whRHvzYmx9c by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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These inaccurate talking points used by /e/ and Murena to mislead people about the purpose of GrapheneOS, what it provides and who uses it are heavily propagated by their supporters to harm GrapheneOS in podcasts, blog posts, forums, social media and elsewhere. It's pervasive.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfb5jEbVcslp6Dg by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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/e/ and Murena are based in France. Recently, France's national law enforcement has been smearing GrapheneOS, Signal and other privacy projects. They've heavily pushed the same false narrative as /e/ and Murena claiming GrapheneOS primarily benefits and is used by criminals.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfc19n5RjksgxjU by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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Both state and corporate media in France repeated inaccurate claims from their nationa law enforcement without questioning it. They presented false claims about the features, distribution, marketing and userbase. They conflated it with sketchy products which aren't GrapheneOS.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfcwaLZNqczYpFI by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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/e/ and Murena are aligning themselves with these false narratives about genuine privacy and security projects. Their supporters are also aligning themselves with this. Their concept of privacy is control and surveillance by EU corporations and governments instead of the US.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfdtmnSjrabG6WO by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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Podcast Projets Libres heavily promotes /e/ and Murena. They've consistently misrepresented the GrapheneOS project to promote those. Our corrections have consistently been ignored. They recently published an episode heavily pushing many of these false narratives about GrapheneOS.
(DIR) Post #B5CTferhCif2aPHwu0 by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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The /e/ enthusiast interviewed in the podcast replied twice to our thread from 4 days earlier addressing Duval's claims about hardening being for pedophiles and GrapheneOS somehow not being a privacy project. This is exactly the narrative which was heavily pushed in the episode.
(DIR) Post #B5CTffpxaernbJU4ps by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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After our response to their post promoted the podcast episode was once again ignored, we posted https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116380872236123594 as a top-level thread addressing it. Following this, they made one minor correction while keeping the outrageous claim we aren't a privacy project fully intact.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfglO98nuTQLwLg by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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Podcast Projets Libres and Framasoft have closely worked with /e/ to promite it. /e/ is not a legitimate privacy project but rather one which fails to provide basic standard patches and protections while adding invasive services. These people are not legitimate privacy advocates.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfhiab29vR23Dcm by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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/e/ isn't a privacy project but rather a digital sovereignty project. It receives millions of euros in funding from the EU with the goal of moving technology within the control of the EU. /e/ supports violating people's right to privacy as long as it's France and the EU doing it.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfieN8CNcKF5Mgq by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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https://www.projets-libres.org/en/podcast/e-os-a-degoogled-android-gael-duval-e-foundation-murena/> The European Union has subsidized us to the tune of several million for this project.Murena sells products largely built with funding received from the EU. It's government funding being used to heavily enrich the shareholders of the Murena company.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfjaVe2stEYHnJA by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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Many European countries have a major issue with Apple preventing them from accessing user data by implementing strong security protections and strong end-to-end encryption. /e/ provides an option within their control which fails to keep up with basic privacy and security patches.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfkVaDqXQ5YzNGi by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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France's government and law enforcement have become extremely hostile towards disk encryption, end-to-end encryption and secure devices. Murena is trying to differentiate themselves from projects providing strong privacy and security while deriding those as being for criminals.
(DIR) Post #B5CTflYoJKiJLrVSwC by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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People shouldn't underestimate the harm which is going to be caused by them repeatedly telling people serious privacy and security are for pedophiles, criminals and spies. It's not a one time statement but rather a consistent narrative in years of their posts. This is a problem.
(DIR) Post #B5CTfmXmedUEOy29ya by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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Murena and /e/ have been largely successful in how they've branded themselves despite lack of substance. Many people believe their false marketing. Governments now have an ally accepted within a lot of the privacy community which is saying strong privacy only helps pedophiles.
(DIR) Post #B5DGeYon61lvIS2IIi by niavy@masto.bike
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@GrapheneOSSTOP BASHING OTHER ALTERNATIVE ANDROID ROMS
(DIR) Post #B5DGeZ9LraDcKDeiLg by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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@niavy These threads are a direct response to attacks on our project and exist to address the inaccurate claims made about the GrapheneOS project and our team. We're defending ourselves from /e/ and Murena along with their supporters continuing to mislead people about GrapheneOS.We're going to address the fact that their supporters use the tactic of portraying our threads addressing their inaccurate claims to falsely present us as the aggressor. It's another of their inaccurate talking points.
(DIR) Post #B5DGeZSUiPWzHac0Bc by niavy@masto.bike
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@GrapheneOSLook, I am following both. GrapheneOS AND /e/.I've NEVER read GrapheneOS-bashing logorrhea like yours towards main LineageOS-based ROMs.Really, stop victimising yourself and start acknowledging that every Google-shipped alternative ROM is a step towards better. Let users pick what they want.
(DIR) Post #B5DGea2IZIAf4dMazg by niavy@masto.bike
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@GrapheneOSAs for me, I chose to degoogle my life BUT to a certain extent only. I will not get rid of my Chromecast, neither of my unlimited Google Photos. I know there may be better choices, but these are mine. My LineageOS-based ROM is cool for me. Your ROM may be a better choice, but STOP criticising other ones. This is COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.
(DIR) Post #B5DGeaL5RRCS0u9bHM by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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@niavy Our thread directly addresses the false narrative you're peddling in your replies to it:https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116388159407099477GrapheneOS is relentlessly attacked across the fediverse and elsewhere by /e/, Murena and their supporters with the narratives we've addressed there. We've linked to major examples of it. This thread was made in response to recent attempts by /e/ supporters to mislead people about GrapheneOS with false narratives from /e/. You're doing the same thing we're addressing.