Post B58wYm00OyN8iuP9wO by lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place
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 (DIR) Post #B58wYm00OyN8iuP9wO by lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place
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       Is there a name for this dynamic:1. The leadership of an organization turns corrupt.2. Incorruptible staff leave the organization.3. Only corruptible staff remains, who are also incompetent, as both qualities tend to correlate.4. The organization's performance deteriorates, and with it its reputation.no clear answer came up, so i'll suggest "brain drain induced by unethical leadership". not very snappy.
       
 (DIR) Post #B58wYmI5Jkplcyrb7Y by mmby@mastodon.social
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       @lritter depends on how you define corruption but a lack of psychological safety can do the same - competent employees are the first to jump ship because they have more options
       
 (DIR) Post #B58wYmUqYJ2gGYpn0q by lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place
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       @mmby lack of psychological safety is already lack of an ethical quality.
       
 (DIR) Post #B58wYmd03zZ2fqeIim by mmby@mastodon.social
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       @lritter but there may be somewhat of a just-world fallacy here: many companies are psychologically unsafe but are successful** anyways, e.g. Amazon, SpaceX** even if not keeping talent
       
 (DIR) Post #B58wYmoLNoddF1xMP2 by lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place
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       @mmby mmh.. they have fuck-you money, able to absorb all cost of mistakes, they hold monopolies and they run on processes developed before the people who came up with them left.also, success metrics are sus. what counts to me is customer perception.
       
 (DIR) Post #B58wYmwUtV9zeJls6y by lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place
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       Through our conversations I'm beginning to realize that corruption and competence are truly antonyms. You can not be corrupt and competent at the same time. Competence requires that you understand the full picture of what it is you are doing. If any element of it is unethical, then it is detrimental to your success. You can see exactly how and where it fails. To be corrupt, you *have* to have a lack of competence.
       
 (DIR) Post #B58wYnQz49XxAs2DdA by lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place
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       Simplest case: you don't know the risks. Incompetent.Perhaps you know of the risks, but you brush them aside: incompetent.You know of the risks, you calculate the cost of fixing problem vs keeping it and paying for it another way, and the projected benefit is positive: then your projection sucks. You're pushing your design into a zone in which consequences are hidden from you. Incompetent.
       
 (DIR) Post #B58wYnq9YZgCQvoJrU by lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place
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       There is perhaps only one case where competence serves corruption, which is when the calculation is made in such a way that the bad consequences of your decisions only come into effect once you've lived a full life and died a peaceful death. One could be competent enough to plan this successfully. This would be the only form of corruption that can co-exist with competence, and it is perhaps also the least easiest to prove. But I don't know of anyone that clever.
       
 (DIR) Post #B59L2ssdmPijeVqoVc by AndiPopp@chaos.social
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       @lritter Sometimes it's named after a prominent example of the effect, e.g. the "Streisand Effect". So maybe, something like "The Pam Bondi Effect"?
       
 (DIR) Post #B59L2t4L4v4uEnK9k8 by lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place
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       @AndiPopp i first observed this effect with police forces, about 20 years ago, when they changed the uniforms around here from green to black.
       
 (DIR) Post #B59UIBZVT1dFYPGw4G by lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place
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       @coldclimate the apocalypse is famously unreliable.