Post B54OZ0xEclU625DFAm by nspace@infosec.exchange
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 (DIR) Post #B54OIF2wyc6eodt7h2 by whitequark@social.treehouse.systems
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       okay so what's going on with office softwarethe OnlyOffice mess is garden variety xenophobia that people who know better on here are amplifying, that's easywhat the fuck is going on with LibreOffice and Collabora
       
 (DIR) Post #B54OIFG4Bqb9TK1b8a by regehr@mastodon.social
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       @whitequark has LibreOffice gotten any better recently? god it was awful the last time I tried to use it, and I'll never forget the time one of my students who (with good intentions) moved some of our documents over to it and they were so irrevocably fucked afterwards that we just discarded all of the work he had done
       
 (DIR) Post #B54ORCya2myb067U4e by whitequark@social.treehouse.systems
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       @regehr you'd have to be more specific for me to give you an answer, like what was awful?
       
 (DIR) Post #B54ORD8VRsurUslPXs by regehr@mastodon.social
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       @whitequark it just didn't really seem to work, had trouble with basic document formatting and saving and loading and stuff. was a few years ago
       
 (DIR) Post #B54ORDKuhkqC7MZJsu by whitequark@social.treehouse.systems
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       @regehr always worked for me, even back when i was in high school. the interface is a little revolting but i feel the same about msoffice. hasn't had much issues making .docx's for my company a month ago for example
       
 (DIR) Post #B54ORDVY4DLceLXoSe by regehr@mastodon.social
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       @whitequark might have been specific to what we were doing, I don't know. it's nice to have an alternative to the MS stuff, but I don't really use that either, unless forced, for work reasons
       
 (DIR) Post #B54ORDgtO2QDDWqs8u by danlyke@researchbuzz.masto.host
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       @regehr @whitequark I'm on Mac most recently, but lockups/force-quit are fairly common. I use it only when absolutely necessary, and remember to save often.
       
 (DIR) Post #B54ORDrWkUvdkVpMie by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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       @danlyke @regehr @whitequark on X11, it just captures some of my keybindings because it goes by scancode, not keycode, and I have the left Alt key bound to L3 switch, so I cannot type some characters from my layout… (this will especially not fly well with people who use Dvorak or Neo or so…)
       
 (DIR) Post #B54OV0IZ7Zayq8HGLo by gsuberland@chaos.social
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       @regehr @whitequark I similarly found Write to fall short on basic "being a word processor" tasks like reliably formatting & loading/saving when I last used it 4 or 5 years back. Calc seemed less janky at the time.
       
 (DIR) Post #B54OV0eBpAtPvCOX3Y by gsuberland@chaos.social
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       @regehr @whitequark interop with MS Office was not even minimum viable product quality at the time, too. documents made in Word would be unusably broken when loaded in Write, with stuff off the edge of the page, overlapping text in tables, different fonts and sizes, etc.if it's gotten to an actually usable standard that would be very good news.
       
 (DIR) Post #B54OV0wGjxM2pGqyEi by regehr@mastodon.social
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       @gsuberland @whitequark what you are describing matches what I remember. just like not really possible to accomplish basic tasks.
       
 (DIR) Post #B54OV1G7Y9EZoq8pBA by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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       @regehr @gsuberland @whitequark I just used Softmaker Office for that…
       
 (DIR) Post #B54OZ0xEclU625DFAm by nspace@infosec.exchange
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       @regehr @gsuberland @whitequark I made a presentation with LibreOffice in 2019 and SVG rendering was so broken that I had to rasterize all my SVG images. As an example it was rendering the Chromium logo as an octagon instead of a circle.
       
 (DIR) Post #B54OZ1ALpzyaglLicK by nspace@infosec.exchange
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       @regehr @gsuberland @whitequark Found it (it was a hexagon, not an octagon but the point is the same)And this is not some specially crafted example, all my SVGs were broken in a similar way